Community Day 2013 - Gameplay - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

[doctemple]

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I played about 20+ games and hit the pitcher only twice. The adjustment with hitting cuts down a lot of up the middle play. There still is a disconnect with the pitcher getting hit and suffering consequences from the incident. In the two incidents that occurred I was safe on one and out on the other.

At least there was some improvement. Hopefully they will keep working on it.

Thanks for the update!

[MrOldboy]

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I played about 20+ games and hit the pitcher only twice. The adjustment with hitting cuts down a lot of up the middle play. There still is a disconnect with the pitcher getting hit and suffering consequences from the incident. In the two incidents that occurred I was safe on one and out on the other.

Nice to hear. But its not that the pitchers get hit, its that its so easy for the infielders to react and throw you out. 1/2 is a small sample size, so I hope it happens much less frequently now.

The other thing I wonder if it has changed are on bunt plays. Do infielders always throw off their back foot still? Even on plays like a pitcher bunting where they had all day, they would still throw off their back foot. It just looks silly.

[nemesis04]

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Nice to hear. But its not that the pitchers get hit, its that its so easy for the infielders to react and throw you out. 1/2 is a small sample size, so I hope it happens much less frequently now.

The other thing I wonder if it has changed are on bunt plays. Do infielders always throw off their back foot still? Even on plays like a pitcher bunting where they had all day, they would still throw off their back foot. It just looks silly.

To be honest I don't recall about bunts, I am sure it is a mix of both animations.

[nemesis04]

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Anyway do we have any Analog Pitching guys on the CD team? I'm looking forward to reading impressions on that. Where's the love?

Not too much has changed really with this mechanic except for under the hood tweaks which is unfortunate because it has a ton of potential. I know I have offered a lot of suggestions to give this meter more personality based on the quality of pitcher throwing. It is sitting kind of idle right now.

[MrOldboy]

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To be honest I don't recall about bunts, I am sure it is a mix of both animations.

Which animations do you mean by both? I'm assuming back foot and something else?

In MLB 12 the third baseman would always try to field the ball barehanded if it wasn't bunted really really hard at him and then throw off his back foot and lob the ball to first base.

If they have that much time they should always stop and throw. The third baseman should only use the back foot animation when its a close play.

[nemesis04]

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Which animations do you mean by both? I'm assuming back foot and something else?

In MLB 12 the third baseman would always try to field the ball barehanded if it wasn't bunted really really hard at him and then throw off his back foot and lob the ball to first base.

If they have that much time they should always stop and throw. The third baseman should only use the back foot animation when its a close play.

Yes the back foot throw and the stop, plant and throw. I assume you are talking about how the CPU performs these correct? Because as the user you can manipulate your controlled fielder and make them throw properly by slowing their momentum.

[MrOldboy]

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Yes the back foot throw and the stop, plant and throw. I assume you are talking about how the CPU performs these correct? Because as the user you can manipulate your controlled fielder and make them throw properly by slowing their momentum.

Yep, the CPU. The 3B does the back foot way way too often on bunts when there is no need to do it.

[seanjeezy]

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Any of you guys notice if the CPU outfielders still attack hard base hits in front of them? That and batters being really slow out of the box would result in the OF'er fielding the ball before the batter was even halfway down the line, with the ball being back in the infield before the batter reaches 1st.

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These aren't the best examples, but in all three the OF's move mostly laterally to field the ball instead of making a beeline to the initial landing spot.

[MrOldboy]

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Any of you guys notice if the CPU outfielders still attack hard base hits in front of them? That and batters being really slow out of the box would result in the OF'er fielding the ball before the batter was even halfway down the line, with the ball being back in the infield before the batter reaches 1st.

These aren't the best examples, but in all three the OF's move mostly laterally to field the ball instead of making a beeline to the initial landing spot.

Yep, I agree. It always looks weird. When I hit a hard base hit to right I always expect the right fielder to throw me out. It was easy to throw guys out from right last year, they eventually patched it out, but not really fixing the issue of what you describe. Instead the throw would pull the 1B off the bag everytime even if the throw beat them.

[nomo17k]

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Where were all these suggestions when wishlist threads were open??

[MrOldboy]

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Where were all these suggestions when wishlist threads were open??

A lot of these were posted about a lot, just not specifically in these threads. Its hard to remember everything that was asked in the previous feedback threads and such. I wish I remembered a lot of things before CD to ask.

I remember posting about the catcher pre-pitch animations a few times, but forgot to ask about it for the CD threads. I forget that its also a place to maybe ask for future additions/changes. I initially thought these threads would only be for questions/concerns. But seeing a lot of people posting other things and the CD guys taking note makes me think you guys are also collecting suggestions for next year? Or is it solely focused on the current game?

[bp4baseball]

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Where were all these suggestions when wishlist threads were open??

Ha ha... It seems once everything is set and we start discussing what is in the game all the ideas start coming. Though with everything that got put in this year I'm not sure there was much more time for more additions (they put A LOT in it seems)

[nemesis04]

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Any of you guys notice if the CPU outfielders still attack hard base hits in front of them? That and batters being really slow out of the box would result in the OF'er fielding the ball before the batter was even halfway down the line, with the ball being back in the infield before the batter reaches 1st.

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These aren't the best examples, but in all three the OF's move mostly laterally to field the ball instead of making a beeline to the initial landing spot.

There is actually some improvement with this. They captured new animations for runners rounding the bag at first on base hits to the outfield in relation to where they get fielded. Based on where the ball is they could have a short or long path rounding first before retreating to the bag. As far as the outfielder attacking the ball on hits in front of them I really do not remember specifically but things have definitely been slowed down.

[nomo17k]

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Ha ha... It seems once everything is set and we start discussing what is in the game all the ideas start coming. Though with everything that got put in this year I'm not sure there was much more time for more additions (they put A LOT in it seems)

I honestly think all those suggestions written here will be quickly forgotten, so I'm merely suggesting to put them into wishlist threads that usually open up after the game release. I thought CD threads are for something to be discussed in the CD event. It's over now.

The game definitely feels a total package like nemesis mentioned in his impression. It's definitely the biggest leap I've seen in my tenure with the Show (MLB 10). Why don't people see it first before wishing for the future...

[thaSLAB]

Yep, I agree. It always looks weird. When I hit a hard base hit to right I always expect the right fielder to throw me out. It was easy to throw guys out from right last year, they eventually patched it out, but not really fixing the issue of what you describe. Instead the throw would pull the 1B off the bag everytime even if the throw beat them.

This has actually been addressed too. Partly because of the tweaking on the ball physics, and partly because of the adjustment of the fielder speed. So now, since the ball loses energy much more quickly, they will adjust their approach angle accordingly. Also, the psychic abilities of the CPU is no longer there and it no longer takes perfect routes or charges the ball as aggressively. You will no longer see a baserunner stop in his tracks at first base because the ball is already on its way back in. In the event that it is thrown in quickly, they will still round the base slightly, or aggressively depending on the situation.


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