2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Idk about that Arcia is pretty good

Waaaay is an exaggeration but I'd still definitely take Maurer. Don't like Arcia's K% but I definitely see what you guys are talking about. Just don't like the peripherals.

[Sacrafice]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I say you should find a low/mid B and bite the bullet.

Arcia + Vargas + Low/mid B for Smoak + Maurer + Capps

It sounds to me from all the posts that it's close and of course all of this being dependent on the spread sheet saying 26yo A potential Smoak = High C. Your getting what you want and you are giving what Seattle needs albeit not exactly MLB ready. Giving a B for Smoak lessens the damage of them possibly not quite being ready come spring training 2014. As Seattle I would do it even though in my head Smoak is worth more and possibly the others are worth more and in my head Seattle should get more. Capps is the only one they are losing that they even have a place for. If the rest of Seattle's prospects are ready next year, then moving Montero to 1st and per-maturely having Arcia or someone else in the OF in 2014 is not going to hurt them and they still have a plethora of other prospects to move if they really, really want that proven ML player now. Just have that last player be ready to play is all I would ask.

[KomicJ]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

(...) My thinking is that Arcia is a STUD waiting to happen, but other than him, you're not sending a lot of top guys to SEA, more quantity it seems--that's why I started thinking about adding pitchers. (...)

Yeah, I think this may have been the mistake, or where the trade isn't working. I'm good with most starters Colorado have right now (not great, but okay to start my franchise) but I thought if I could bring a decent third/fourth young SP, someone in the bullpen who can eventually replace Bethancourt as our closer, and a younger 1B to back Helton and take his place eventually, without having to sacrifice anyone valuable in my MLB line-up, it was worth the shot, and I'd be good to go for the beginning of the season. I seem to have a plentora of B-Prospects (SP, C and OF) and only room for so much + a young stud at SS that is stuck behind Tulo. So I thought those pieces for the future could get me the pieces I need for the present.

Problem is (I now realize it) that Seattle might have the same issue, even with more talent already lining-up in the minors. So this might not be a "value" thing, but more the fact that Seattle already have plenty of those B-players I'm trying to shop, while keeping my starters. My target probably should've been a team that really lacks depth/youth in their system, not a team that already has a lot like the Mariners.

You guys really should take this to the arb thread lol. Needs some traffic anyways.

Yeah, sorry about that...even I felt it was taking a bit too much space. Felt I was closing in on the deal, and everytime a new input would come up (and while appreciate all the inputs I can get, it did take a lot more debating than what I expected). I'm moving on right now...

I say you should find a low/mid B and bite the bullet.

I think I'll stay put to start the season, and watch those players stats after a month or so. If they seem to be doing okay for Seattle, then I'll definately look at other options. If they're struggling, then I might pull the trigger on something close to what you're suggesting, as this is closer to the price I can afford to pay I think.

Alright guys, thank you again for your inputs. My baseball knowledge may not be up to par, but I think I'm learning a lot by reading this thread on a daily basis. Keep it up, noobs like me appreciate you a lot !

[rjackson]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Staying put is a good idea. COL gives you lots of options on offense. Consider playing Rosario at 1B against LHP. Pacheco, Swanner, whoever at C. Or, Cuddyer at 1B, Rosario at C, etc. You've got lots of options. Colvin is really good against RHP so playing him at 1B or RF is sweet. Helton could be surprisingly good so don't be afraid to give him a few starts. Offense is NOT A PROBLEM for the Rox. I traded for Capuano to give more time for development on the younger SP's and that's it. I'm finding COL to not be enough of a challenge/rebuild for me so I might be switching to a different team soon.

[Totte]

I'm finding COL to not be enough of a challenge/rebuild for me so I might be switching to a different team soon.

Marlins? Pirates? Brewers? Astros? White Sox? Cubs? Mets?

[EL_GABE]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Playing as the mets (early june) looking for speed guys at SS and Of...cheap plugings.

[Totte]

Playing as the mets (early june) looking for speed guys at SS and Of...cheap plugings.

Coco Crisp
Julio Borbon
Craig Gentry
Roger Bernadina
Michael Saunders

Dee Gordon
Alexi Casilla
Jerry Hairston Jr
Freddy Galvis
Chris Getz

[jayhawkblue]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

In my Astros franchise I am looking to trade Bud Norris. He has pitched very well this season, posting a 2.34 ERA so far (it is June 27th). I'm looking to move him to a team in the playoff hunt who needs pitching. 2 teams I have looked at are Texas (3 starters have ERAs above 4.50) and Detroit (need a 5th starter). What could I get for him since he is on fire right now?

[JDub0820]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

In my Astros franchise I am looking to trade Bud Norris. He has pitched very well this season, posting a 2.34 ERA so far (it is June 27th). I'm looking to move him to a team in the playoff hunt who needs pitching. 2 teams I have looked at are Texas (3 starters have ERAs above 4.50) and Detroit (need a 5th starter). What could I get for him since he is on fire right now?

Not sure Det could offer you much in return. But what are you looking to acquire with him?

[jayhawkblue]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Not sure Det could offer you much in return. But what are you looking to acquire with him?

Either a solid pitching prospect or an outfielder prospect

[CameRoN0407]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

In my Astros franchise I am looking to trade Bud Norris. He has pitched very well this season, posting a 2.34 ERA so far (it is June 27th). I'm looking to move him to a team in the playoff hunt who needs pitching. 2 teams I have looked at are Texas (3 starters have ERAs above 4.50) and Detroit (need a 5th starter). What could I get for him since he is on fire right now?

He's playing like a mid-high B level starter. I would give it 'til at least mid-Julyish to see if this is just a fluke or not.

[JDub0820]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Either a solid pitching prospect or an outfielder prospect

We don't have either to offer....well we have a couple of (OF Castellanos and Garcia) prospects but we wouldn't part with them at this point considering we need them ourselves. Part of my personal frustrations with Tigers organization is exactly this.....we have no depth to trade without taking away from our core. My opinion anyway.

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

He's playing like a mid-high B level starter. I would give it 'til at least mid-Julyish to see if this is just a fluke or not.

If it's already been half a season or so, what difference would two/three more weeks make? That's a couple starts and if 2-3 starts are gonna change your opinion on the guy, you're still using small sample size. He may have a fluky couple starts. Now's a perfectly fine time to trade him.

[CameRoN0407]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

If it's already been half a season or so, what difference would two/three more weeks make? That's a couple starts and if 2-3 starts are gonna change your opinion on the guy, you're still using small sample size. He may have a fluky couple starts. Now's a perfectly fine time to trade him.

Norris is historically known for being inconsistent. I wouldn't trust this just yet. But considering this is Houston we're talking about, they would trade him either way to get prospects. As the team revcieving him, I would want to wait, but it's up to the OP.

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Norris is historically known for being inconsistent. I wouldn't trust this just yet. But considering this is Houston we're talking about, they would trade him either way to get prospects. As the team revcieving him, I would want to wait, but it's up to the OP.

If he's known as inconsistent, that's something you're getting, regardless of his next 2-3 games, doesn't even slightly impact the timing.

But that's not even true lol, take a look at his monthly career splits. They're not inconsistent at all. His monthly wOBAs are quite consistent(ly good).

http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits....ion=P&season=0

The highest jump is from July-August anyways. Granted, none of this is an adequate sample, but it's better than waiting about 3 more starts.