2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Tune into the OP? Im confused slightly...could be the beer Ive drank today lol

First post of the thread.

[BlueJays09]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

updated spreadsheet?

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Apologies in advance, but this one will make you think a little, hence the spoilers. Not for the trade threader who is faint of heart.

Point # 1
I'm actually thinking of bringing R.A. Dickey to Houston....Have to wait/think on it. Toronto is only 24-30 (June 1), but they were cellar dwellers last year too. Yes, there's plenty of time to go still.

Basically it'll come down to would I in my right mind deal 19-y/o Correa for a 39-y/o rental? Stranger things have happened. Dickey would fit in my rotation very nicely, though Jays09's bad fortune with him has me thinking I might want to try a play now game to test him out first, lol.

Point # 2
Also gearing up to deal Stanton away from the Marlins. He's doing much better than last year.

2013: .225/.293/.423, 29 HR 72 RBI
2014: .295/.362/.534, 12 HR 32 RBI (51 games)

Not gonna spoil anything, you'll have to read my 'chise . This one's going all the way down to July 31st, BUT I already have some ideas on where to send him...

Spoiler

Boston, San Diego, and...gulp...Houston are really the only contenders with the farm system to make this happen. I view myself as an EXTREME longshot, though it is intriguing. I'd have to give up Olt/Altuve though, so, non-starter.

Point # 3
Alright I think I've finally got some workable deals for my team.

Deal 1 - Will do this one between ASB and deadline

Spoiler

CLE gets: Mike Foltynewicz + Casey Crosby + Elliot Johnson
HOU gets: Asdrubal Cabrera

I'm not hell-bent on trading Folty, in fact I'm getting some insistence that I don't deal him, but I don't think there's any other way, and A-Cab would fit my team like a glove.

Relevant stats

Spoiler

Folty: 2.23 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 8.38 K/9, .210 BAA (AA) *just promoted to AAA
Crosby: 4.69 ERA, 1.51 WHIP, 6.92 K/9, .269 BAA (AAA) * just demoted to AA
Johnson: .259 0 HR 5 RBI (MLB)

A-Cab: .257 3 HR 25 RBI (contract = 1 yr $2.8M)

Indians are 20-31

Deal 2 - Will probably do this one around MLB draft time.

Spoiler

MIN gets: Dee Gordon + George Kottaras
HOU gets: Chris Herrmann + Anthony Swarzak/Brian Duensing

I feel that Dee is a *perfect fit* for the Twins...a speedy/versatile guy with not great OBP skills, but they always have these guys.

Relevant stats

Spoiler

Gordon: .130 0 HR 0 RBI in only 23 AB (MLB)
Kottaras: .303 8 HR 26 RBI (AAA)

Herrmann: .291 9 HR 20 RBI
Swarzak: 3.77 ERA, 1.33 WHIP, 6.91 K/9, .266 BAA (AAA)
Duensing: 3.72 ERA, 1.19 WHIP, 8.38 K/9, .242 BAA (MLB)

Twins are 22-30

Deal 3 - This one is HIGHLY experimental and I'm not sure if/when it would go down.

Spoiler

TOR gets: Delino DeShields Jr. + Lance McCullers Jr. + J.A. Happ Jays get Happ back
HOU gets: R.A. Dickey + David Cooper

Also toying with the idea of tossing them Correa instead, but DeShields fits their team perfectly. Could play 2B/CF etc..Happ gives them an inexpensive, warm body to post league average starts to play out the string.

Relevant stats

Spoiler

DeShields: .253 1 HR 14 RBI 22 SB (AA)
McCullers: 3.42 ERA 1.33 WHIP 8.54 K/9, .245 BAA (AAA)
Happ: 3.33 ERA, 1.17 WHIP, 9.33 K/9, .207 BAA (AAA)

Dickey: 2.93 ERA, 1.11 WHIP, 6.38 K/9, .235 BAA (contract = 1 yr $4.3M)
Cooper: .272 4 HR 24 RBI (AAA)

Jays are 24-30

Any thoughts/suggestions on the fairness/realism of these? Would love to hear them. Thanks!

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

R.A. is a FIP beater, as he induces such weak contact, he essentially breaks WAR with that, so don't mind his ERA beating his FIP. He's performed very admirably in your chise, apparently. I'd put him at a low A and a low B.

Sounds reasonable. His FIP and ERA are pretty close in this case though.

Hey folks, just wanted to say that you guys should all stay tuned to the OP tonight. Something big's coming.

Ooooh, so mysterious? LOL. Wouldn't miss "it"

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I approve of the Dickey trade.

Have you considered dealing Price from the Rays? Seems somewhat likely.

[Bluejaysfan65]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

On the spreadsheet it's says that J.A. Happ is worth two high Cs. He has a 1-2 record, 4.10 ERA, 1.03 WHIP, 26 Hits, 3 HR, 26.1 IP. In around the beginning of June and was wondering which teams I would be able to send him to. I'm the Blue Jays and are currently leading the AL East by 1.5 games over the Yankees. Also, who would I be able to get?

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I approve of the Dickey trade.

Have you considered dealing Price from the Rays? Seems somewhat likely.

Well if I can get a Dickey trade through in this thread filled with Jays fans, dang, I might have to do it!

btw, I dealt Price to Texas last season for Profar + spects.

I am covertly trying to infuse top talent into the AL West so I have the misfortune of playing these guys.

[BlueJays09]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I concur on the trade of Dickey you speak of

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

On the spreadsheet it's says that J.A. Happ is worth two high Cs. He has a 1-2 record, 4.10 ERA, 1.03 WHIP, 26 Hits, 3 HR, 26.1 IP. In around the beginning of June and was wondering which teams I would be able to send him to. I'm the Blue Jays and are currently leading the AL East by 1.5 games over the Yankees. Also, who would I be able to get?

Well, normally teams leading the division don't sell starters, so there's that.

Also, 2 high Cs is probably a bit much. I think you could realistically get a mid/high C and maybe a low C throw in. I'd look for teams in the hunt that need a starter and that should narrow it down for you.

[Deuce2223]

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Looking to make a Deadline deal for KC in my M's Franchise.

They are currently 62-39 (5.5 GB) of the Tigers 68-34. (I know crazy)

But lead the WC by 5 games over Boston for the #1 spot.

Frenchy (.311 11 HR) just went on the DL for the next 6 months and 2B C. Getz is batting .262 with 2 HR and I. Falu is batting .238 2 HR 12 RBI.

I would like to get them a RF and a 2B.


Here are some of the options

Twins (J. Carroll .300 3 HR 41 RBI, and J. Willingham .247 17 HR 57 RBI) need pitching and KC has some good ones.

A's (J. Weeks currently in AAA but batting .307 and C. Young (.220 2 HR 13 RBI) obviously doesn't really look like much help from the stats, but Overall and potential is good.

Phillies (C. Utley .301 5 HR 24 RBI and D. Young .235 8 HR 38 RBI or J. Mayberry JR-.288 2 HR in 15 AB's (just called up from AAA).

Colorado (J. Rutledge .235 9 HR 30 RBI, and M. Cuddyer .253 10 HR 32) like Twins really could use some SP.

Padres (L. Forsythe-.250 6 HR 18 RBI splitting time with Gyorko (.260 7 HR 49 RBI) and C. Quentin .240 13 HR 43 RBI)


Other options for 2B would be SS A. Cabrera (CLV)-.291 17 HR 52 RBI, but don't really have a good RF option, so they could do J. Giambi .240 20 HR 52 RBI and KC move Hosmer to RF??

Or New York Mets D. Murphy .306 8 HR 50 RBI, but don't have a MLB OF worthing of trading, so would have to look at separate deals.


Stat's on KC guy's.

W. Davis currently #4 9-7 4.59 ERA, F. Paulino #5 8-7 5.24 ERA, RP L. Hochevar 4.80 ERA in 54 IP.

Minor league AAA Y. Ventura 7-8 3.83 111 K's, LHP J. Lamb 4-9 3.86, LHP J. Duffy 6-8 4.61 ERA, RHP K Zimmer 4-9 5.85,

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

On the spreadsheet it's says that J.A. Happ is worth two high Cs. He has a 1-2 record, 4.10 ERA, 1.03 WHIP, 26 Hits, 3 HR, 26.1 IP. In around the beginning of June and was wondering which teams I would be able to send him to. I'm the Blue Jays and are currently leading the AL East by 1.5 games over the Yankees. Also, who would I be able to get?

Who's in contention?

Well if I can get a Dickey trade through in this thread filled with Jays fans, dang, I might have to do it!

btw, I dealt Price to Texas last season for Profar + spects.

I am covertly trying to infuse top talent into the AL West so I have the misfortune of playing these guys.

You poor soul.

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Looking to make a Deadline deal for KC in my M's Franchise.

Danny Duffy for Chase Utley?

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Looking to make a Deadline deal for KC in my M's Franchise.

They are currently 62-39 (5.5 GB) of the Tigers 68-34. (I know crazy)

But lead the WC by 5 games over Boston for the #1 spot.

Frenchy (.311 11 HR) just went on the DL for the next 6 months and 2B C. Getz is batting .262 with 2 HR and I. Falu is batting .238 2 HR 12 RBI.

I would like to get them a RF and a 2B.


Here are some of the options

Twins (J. Carroll .300 3 HR 41 RBI, and J. Willingham .247 17 HR 57 RBI) need pitching and KC has some good ones.

A's (J. Weeks currently in AAA but batting .307 and C. Young (.220 2 HR 13 RBI) obviously doesn't really look like much help from the stats, but Overall and potential is good.

Phillies (C. Utley .301 5 HR 24 RBI and D. Young .235 8 HR 38 RBI or J. Mayberry JR-.288 2 HR in 15 AB's (just called up from AAA).

Colorado (J. Rutledge .235 9 HR 30 RBI, and M. Cuddyer .253 10 HR 32) like Twins really could use some SP.

Padres (L. Forsythe-.250 6 HR 18 RBI splitting time with Gyorko (.260 7 HR 49 RBI) and C. Quentin .240 13 HR 43 RBI)


Other options for 2B would be SS A. Cabrera (CLV)-.291 17 HR 52 RBI, but don't really have a good RF option, so they could do J. Giambi .240 20 HR 52 RBI and KC move Hosmer to RF??

Or New York Mets D. Murphy .306 8 HR 50 RBI, but don't have a MLB OF worthing of trading, so would have to look at separate deals.


Stat's on KC guy's.

W. Davis currently #4 9-7 4.59 ERA, F. Paulino #5 8-7 5.24 ERA, RP L. Hochevar 4.80 ERA in 54 IP.

Minor league AAA Y. Ventura 7-8 3.83 111 K's, LHP J. Lamb 4-9 3.86, LHP J. Duffy 6-8 4.61 ERA, RHP K Zimmer 4-9 5.85,

If the phills are out of it, how about Utley + Dom Brown like in Royals19's chise?

[Deuce2223]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Also on a side note, I am looking at adding a SP for my playoff run, Johan Santana is currently 10-5 with a 3.66. Spread sheet says 2 high C's. He is rated 86 (A). Is his low demand for top prospects back in due to his extreme salary? I just cleared the money space, by trading Morales, so I thought he would be a good fit to ease the burden off Maurer and Hutlzen currently my #4 and #5, and if he does well, maybe I resign him next year to replace J. Saunders.

My thoughts are a young SP like A. Fernandez (74 C) currently 7-4 3.47 in AA as well as SP LHP L. Gohara (55 B) only 18 yrs old and currently in my single A roster.

Also thought I would throw in Corey Patterson (69 C). He is better and higher rated then 3 of their 4 current MLB OF and could start for them..


Also 1 more question. I want to deal B. Ryan (who can't hit) who would be a good fit and for what?

[Deuce2223]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

If the phills are out of it, how about Utley + Dom Brown like in Royals19's chise?

That could work, Brown is batting .231 with 8 HR' 39 RBI, but I don't remember who he gave up. Guess I could go back and read.


In case you havn't noticed, I have done a few deals to bring players to teams that happened in other franchises. I traded Corbin from the Dbacks to the Astros, also traded for D. Murphy to play LF via your thread.