2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[nowitsourtime]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I heard the white Soxs may blow up their team. If Sale was traded what would it take?

I'm playing as the Rangers

I think they White Sox will rebuild their team around Sale, not trade him away. He was a CY Young candidate in his first full season of being a starter

When I think of blowing them up, I think of trading Rios, Ramirez, Peavy etc.

In order to get a fair trade for Sale, I would say it'd cost Profar, Olt, Perez and Alfaro

[DaBull_33]

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I think they White Sox will rebuild their team around Sale, not trade him away. He was a CY Young candidate in his first full season of being a starter

When I think of blowing them up, I think of trading Rios, Ramirez, Peavy etc.

In order to get a fair trade for Sale, I would say it'd cost Profar, Olt, Perez and Alfaro

Have to agree here. "Blowing up" usually means dumping high-priced and aging veterans, or getting rid of superstar level talent near the end of their contract that you know you won't be able to keep around long term (ie. Matt Holliday from Colorado to Oakland).

I don't see the White Sox trading Sale, but rather building around him. If you're dead set on getting him, however, I would say a healthy dose of top-end prospects would have to go to Chicago.

Definitely Profar, Olt, and Perez.

[G3no_11]

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Lucroy >> Arencibia. JP Arencibia carries some value, but with a career .221 average and .267 OBP playing crap defense I don't see how his value is on Lucroy's level. Plus Lucroy is a fan favorite, and you wouldn't get that unless you went to Miller Park, lol. They're nuts about him. Only Braun is more beloved there imo.

Wow.. don't get me wrong here. I think Lucroy is muuuch better than J.P.. My point was that J.P. isn't a horrible replacement if you are going to be trading Lucroy. Especially when you are freeing up a decent amount of cap and adding solid talent along with Arencibia.

[hoots711]

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Bought the game yesterday, spent my lunch hour today finding proper sliders and rosters to dload.

Plan on starting my franchise with the Buccos tonight.

Can anyone give me suggestions on doing something at the shortstop position?

Love the squad other than SS (shocker...). Im not a super realistic player but dont want Tulo for nothing like i had last year at the deadline when colo was selling.

I plan on using V2 of the OSFM hybrid rosters.
Can anyone get me started with ideas or possibilities?
Thanks

[mgcst5]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Bought the game yesterday, spent my lunch hour today finding proper sliders and rosters to dload.

Plan on starting my franchise with the Buccos tonight.

Can anyone give me suggestions on doing something at the shortstop position?

Love the squad other than SS (shocker...). Im not a super realistic player but dont want Tulo for nothing like i had last year at the deadline when colo was selling.

I plan on using V2 of the OSFM hybrid rosters.
Can anyone get me started with ideas or possibilities?
Thanks

Asdrubal Cabrera and Dee Gordon are realistic acquisitions.

If youre going for more unrealistic I think the V2 rosters don't have the Andrus extension so he might be available. Furcal would be realistic but he's always injured.

Tulo could still be had but you would have to give up a lot.

Hardy and Rollins could be had realisticly around the deadline if both teams are out.

[Coper3000]

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I'm in a little bit of a bind, and maybe this isn't the best thread, but it's by far the most helpful.

I'm nearing the trade deadline in my 2013 Rays Franchise and David Price is having a rough year - hit the 15 day DL after the first start and is pitching to a tune of 5.75 ERA when healthy.

Now, I've searched the thread and spreadsheet, as well as all trades involving Price - which I know has been re-hased, but I'm trying to be 100% realistic, and don't feel like (going by spreadsheet) that Price is worth that - with his struggles, injury, and arbitration the next two years, he isn't going to be cheap (in my Franchise).

I'm curious to know what sort of drop everyone thinks is fair as far as a return as far as prospects (prospect grade wise), or offering arbitration for the 2014 season is more realistic?

[Sacrafice]

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I actually think more fans love LuCroy than Braun with all his issues. In my opinion it would have to be huge for Milwaukee to deal LuCroy. They won't in RL. Madonado will be gone eventually. They don't need a 1B either. I don't get why ppl think they want one. Hart's coming back and he will never see the light of the OF again as he is atrocious out there and the Crew has enough depth in the OF. Then the Brewers have a 1B in the minors that would be up now if they didn't want to be careful with him in Morris. If the Brewers take a 1B it would be after Hart comes back and is not the same Hart as 2012 or some super cheap guy IE: Juan Francisco. To me a close to ready INF that they can put at 3rd if LuCroy is involved. That would be the only way I can see them moving him even with drafting 1 this year. It would take the horrible thought that they move Weeks to 3rd out of the equation.

This is all RL though and you are playing a game. To me realistic is out the window and fair is the name of the game so have at er. Just thought I would throw my .2 cents in being a Brewers fan. I like the Pirates deal better IMO.

[hoots711]

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Asdrubal Cabrera and Dee Gordon are realistic acquisitions.

If youre going for more unrealistic I think the V2 rosters don't have the Andrus extension so he might be available. Furcal would be realistic but he's always injured.

Tulo could still be had but you would have to give up a lot.

Hardy and Rollins could be had realisticly around the deadline if both teams are out.

Thanks, ill take a look at those tonight. I typically dont have forcible trades on. Any thoughts on who the CPU is interested in for the above?

[AC]

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DeJong + JPA + Ackley + Lind for Lucroy + Weeks + K-Rod

You could probably even squeeze a C prospect out of them too.

I just got Ackley, trading him would be unrealistic.

Well I don't know how SCEA fudged that one so spectacularly, lol. K-Rod was unsigned at the beginning of the year, now he's on an unspecified deal, but probably < $800K.

Contracts are randomized by OVR. K-Rod is like an 86 and Lind is like a 78.

Meanwhile Lind is making $5M this year alone and has options for the next 2 years at $7M a piece with a $2M and $500K buyout. So that's $7.5M guaranteed, prorate that to $4M when you do the deal, but dang...

It's pretty reasonable in real life.

I really, really like Lucroy. A lot. He's got skills as a nice contact bat, lefty-killer with solid defensive attributes. Your lineup would OWN lefties with Bautista/Encarnacion/Lucroy/Lawrie. You're gonna need a prolific lefty bat at some point tho...

Rasmus and Ackley are lefties, and Melky hits better as one.

But Rasmus is not the same type of player that Lind is. Lind is more of a maxed-out old ballplayer skills guy. Rasmus is an athlete. I'm always leery of sending the 1B/DH types to NL clubs.

These guys are really underrated.

I'm not sure who exactly is getting the proverbial "addition by subtraction" here unless you're referring to K-Rod? If you can, I'd be tempted to edit K-Rod's contract down to size. But, then I'd probably want to finish the other ones. Can you edit contracts in the Show? In 2K13 you can, and it's AMAZING. I like having an accurate budget.

Unfortunately, you can't edit contracts, no.

[mgcst5]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Thanks, ill take a look at those tonight. I typically dont have forcible trades on. Any thoughts on who the CPU is interested in for the above?

You can abuse the AI trade advice pretty easily so none of them should be very hard to acquire

[lek]

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Okay more questions for the experts. Reds are starting to worry just finished all star game and they are now 7 back of the Cardinals. Looking to get some offense perhaps a corner OF (Ludwick is hurt like real life), or third base shortstop. Any ideas on players that would fit? I was thinking:

1) Either dodgers are in last place like 20 out. Maybe Crawford?
2) Cabrera from Cleveland? The Indians are a game under .500 6 out.

[G3no_11]

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Okay more questions for the experts. Reds are starting to worry just finished all star game and they are now 7 back of the Cardinals. Looking to get some offense perhaps a corner OF (Ludwick is hurt like real life), or third base shortstop. Any ideas on players that would fit? I was thinking:

1) Either dodgers are in last place like 20 out. Maybe Crawford?
2) Cabrera from Cleveland? The Indians are a game under .500 6 out.

Well the Reds have Todd Frazier at 3B so I don't think 3B is the issue. I think Crawford is realistic considering the Dodgers are doing so poorly and that Puig has looked so good so far.

As for Cabrera.. this isn't directed to you, but to everyone that posts in here:
I'm not very familiar with AL teams especially a team like the Indians, but why does it seem like a general agreement that Asdrubal Cabrera is available to trade? I don't think he is untouchable by any means, but it seems like a lot of people think the Indians would be more than willing to deal him.

Just going from what I know, I don't think the Indians would deal him unless they were way out of it and it didn't appear like they were anywhere close to make a push for the playoffs in the near future.

6 out at the all-star break doesn't seem like a realistic time to deal Cabrera. I'd watch the Indians and see if they fall completely out of it by the trade deadline.

[lek]

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Maybe your correct about Cabrera. I thought I read someplace that they would trade him. I am sure it would take a bunch and who knows perhaps worth it for a team like the Reds looking to win now? Any other thoughts for shortstops? What do you think it would take to get one of the Dodger outfielders?

[billyboy316]

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Need a little help with my current situation. Right now I am in season one with my Cubs and it is July 28th. We are sitting 4.5 games back from 1st but only 2.5 games back from Wild Card.

I am not sure if I should be buyers or sellers. If I am sellers then I have the following guys for trade bait.

1. Matt Garza (duh lol)- 8-6 with a 2.26 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, .228 AVG, 2.548 ERC, 2.779 DIPS, 1.209 PFR, .288 BIPA and a 7.96 K/9

2. Brian Wilson (was in FA)- 33 SAVES, 1.78 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, .234 AVG, 3.377 ERC, 4.319 DIPS, 1.187 PFR, .266 BIPA, 7.12 K/9

3. Scott Hairston- 10 HR, .371 OBP, .480 SLG, .301 AVG, 34 RBI

4. David DeJesus- .240 AVG, .310 OBP, .324 SLG .994 FIELD%

5. Alfonso Soriano- 13 HR, .226 AVG, .281 OBP, .383 SLUG, 43 RBI

Now If I were to be buyers this year I have guys like 3B Josh Vitters(A 23), SS Javier Baez(A 20),CF Albert Almora(B 18),3B Junior Lake(B 23),SP Pierce Johnson(B 21), SP Juan Carlos Paniagua(B 22).

Teams in contention (less than 10 games back)
Nationals, Phillies, Braves, Cardinals, Reds, Brewers, Pirates, Rockies, Giants, Yankees, Rays, Blue Jays, Tigers, Royals, Athletics, Angels, Rangers, Mariners

Teams out of contention (10 games back or more)
Mets, Marlins, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Padres, Red Sox, Orioles, White Sox, Indians, Twins, Astros.

Players I am interested in if Buyers
Nick Markakis-RF Bal
Clay Buchholz-SP Bos
Jon Lester-SP Bos
Jacoby Ellsbury- CF Bos
Carlos Satnana- C Cle
Brett Myers- SP Cle
Giancarlo Stanton- RF Mia (if too unrealistic that's fine)
Johan Santana- SP NYM
Chad Billingsley- SP LAD
Matt Kemp- CF LAD (again if too unrealistic that's fine but is having a bad year in my game.)
Chase Headley- 3B SD
Cory Luebke- SP SD

Sorry for the long post but wanted to give you guys as much info as possible. Let me know if you need any more information.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Rasmus and Ackley are lefties, and Melky hits better as one.

If that's your compliment of lefty batters.... I mean a LHB that actually strikes fear into a pitcher.

Okay more questions for the experts. Reds are starting to worry just finished all star game and they are now 7 back of the Cardinals. Looking to get some offense perhaps a corner OF (Ludwick is hurt like real life), or third base shortstop. Any ideas on players that would fit? I was thinking:

1) Either dodgers are in last place like 20 out. Maybe Crawford?
2) Cabrera from Cleveland? The Indians are a game under .500 6 out.

#2 is out of the question, they wouldn't bury Zack Cozart like that.

I could see #1 happening, especially with Puig there.

Propose something and we can look it over.

Well the Reds have Todd Frazier at 3B so I don't think 3B is the issue. I think Crawford is realistic considering the Dodgers are doing so poorly and that Puig has looked so good so far.

As for Cabrera.. this isn't directed to you, but to everyone that posts in here:
I'm not very familiar with AL teams especially a team like the Indians, but why does it seem like a general agreement that Asdrubal Cabrera is available to trade? I don't think he is untouchable by any means, but it seems like a lot of people think the Indians would be more than willing to deal him.

Just going from what I know, I don't think the Indians would deal him unless they were way out of it and it didn't appear like they were anywhere close to make a push for the playoffs in the near future.

6 out at the all-star break doesn't seem like a realistic time to deal Cabrera. I'd watch the Indians and see if they fall completely out of it by the trade deadline.

Bold is Indians baseball in a nutshell, lol. They're always way out of it basically. In my 'chise they've been one of the worst teams. Also, A-Cab's contract is up after 2014, so it's doubtful the Indians would extend him with top prospect Francisco Lindor almost ready.

I think A-Cab being traded is one of the safer realistic moves that should happen this year or next. Of course, it depends on how they're doing. But trading away players is a fave Tribe pasttime. V-Mart, CC, Gerut, Carmona, and probably more players I am forgetting.

Need a little help with my current situation. Right now I am in season one with my Cubs and it is July 28th. We are sitting 4.5 games back from 1st but only 2.5 games back from Wild Card.

I am not sure if I should be buyers or sellers. If I am sellers then I have the following guys for trade bait.

1. Matt Garza (duh lol)- 8-6 with a 2.26 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, .228 AVG, 2.548 ERC, 2.779 DIPS, 1.209 PFR, .288 BIPA and a 7.96 K/9

2. Brian Wilson (was in FA)- 33 SAVES, 1.78 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, .234 AVG, 3.377 ERC, 4.319 DIPS, 1.187 PFR, .266 BIPA, 7.12 K/9

3. Scott Hairston- 10 HR, .371 OBP, .480 SLG, .301 AVG, 34 RBI

4. David DeJesus- .240 AVG, .310 OBP, .324 SLG .994 FIELD%

5. Alfonso Soriano- 13 HR, .226 AVG, .281 OBP, .383 SLUG, 43 RBI

Now If I were to be buyers this year I have guys like 3B Josh Vitters(A 23), SS Javier Baez(A 20),CF Albert Almora(B 18),3B Junior Lake(B 23),SP Pierce Johnson(B 21), SP Juan Carlos Paniagua(B 22).

Teams in contention (less than 10 games back)
Nationals, Phillies, Braves, Cardinals, Reds, Brewers, Pirates, Rockies, Giants, Yankees, Rays, Blue Jays, Tigers, Royals, Athletics, Angels, Rangers, Mariners

Teams out of contention (10 games back or more)
Mets, Marlins, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Padres, Red Sox, Orioles, White Sox, Indians, Twins, Astros.

Players I am interested in if Buyers
Nick Markakis-RF Bal
Clay Buchholz-SP Bos
Jon Lester-SP Bos
Jacoby Ellsbury- CF Bos
Carlos Satnana- C Cle
Brett Myers- SP Cle
Giancarlo Stanton- RF Mia (if too unrealistic that's fine)
Johan Santana- SP NYM
Chad Billingsley- SP LAD
Matt Kemp- CF LAD (again if too unrealistic that's fine but is having a bad year in my game.)
Chase Headley- 3B SD
Cory Luebke- SP SD

Sorry for the long post but wanted to give you guys as much info as possible. Let me know if you need any more information.

OK, well a couple of things, you ain't getting no A for Vitters. Just to be clear.

Also, everyone you listed of your players could get something in a trade, except for Soriano. With those stats, you'd be lucky to get a bag of balls.

As for your trade targets, I'm ok with Ellsbury, either Santana, Myers.

All of the other guys are either too good/young to trade based on their team having one bad year or their fan bases are irrationally attached to them (Markakis is a good example).

It would be possible to get Stanton, but it would totally gut you. We're talking Castro + Baez + Soler + Paniagua/Maples + P. Johnson/Blackburn. I would recommend against that.