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  • Bluejaysfan65
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    • Jun 2011
    • 4784

    #7561
    So I have a pretty bad catcher situation with J.P. Arencibia out for almost the rest of the season. I'm rolling with Thole and Blanc right now, but I'm seriously looking for someone to be able to be a stopgap before Arencibia returns. I was thinking John Buck, Nick Hundley or Saltalamacchia. Any idea on how something could work out? Willing to take suggestions as well.

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    • G3no_11
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      • Oct 2012
      • 1110

      #7562
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by ClarkWGrizwold
      Mets get Cargo
      Rockies get Matt Adams, Swaggerty, Tyler Moore and Valdespin
      Nats get Helton and a RP
      Cards get Ruben Tejada and a RP
      So you're giving up Valdespin, Tejada, and 1 or 2 RP and you think you can get CarGo in return? lol
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      • nowitsourtime
        Banned
        • Oct 2011
        • 876

        #7563
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by KnickNation17
        Yeah I didnt think so. I was looking for another starting pitcher I could get from them and I saw this kid Jimmy Nelson. 7-7 with a 4.64 ERA AAA mid to High B. Would Prado be enough or would I have to add more?
        You'd need to add more. Prado isn't worth much batting Mendoza line in the last year of his contract. I'd gauge his value around 2 high C's at the most with those numbers.

        Re: Buxton. I love the kid and he's a stud but Giancarlo straight up for him would be a deal I'd take.

        I agree it's still not a fit. I wouldn't classify the Twins as buyers at this point
        Last edited by nowitsourtime; 07-15-2013, 11:25 PM.

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        • nowitsourtime
          Banned
          • Oct 2011
          • 876

          #7564
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Bluejaysfan65
          So I have a pretty bad catcher situation with J.P. Arencibia out for almost the rest of the season. I'm rolling with Thole and Blanc right now, but I'm seriously looking for someone to be able to be a stopgap before Arencibia returns. I was thinking John Buck, Nick Hundley or Saltalamacchia. Any idea on how something could work out? Willing to take suggestions as well.

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          Salty would be unrealistic (in division) but Hundley and Buck shouldn't cost more than a mid C for each

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          • WaitTilNextYear
            Go Cubs Go
            • Mar 2013
            • 16830

            #7565
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Bluejaysfan65
            So I have a pretty bad catcher situation with J.P. Arencibia out for almost the rest of the season. I'm rolling with Thole and Blanc right now, but I'm seriously looking for someone to be able to be a stopgap before Arencibia returns. I was thinking John Buck, Nick Hundley or Saltalamacchia. Any idea on how something could work out? Willing to take suggestions as well.

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            Well, seems reasonable. I wouldn't throw out the Salty trade because it's in-division, but that does raise the price and put pressure on the realism-O-meter.

            We'd need stats, records, and of course, who you are willing to give up.

            Originally posted by G3no_11
            So you're giving up Valdespin, Tejada, and 1 or 2 RP and you think you can get CarGo in return? lol
            That's putting it mildly. AND this deal involves trading Helton, so not only the most unfair Rockies trade I've seen in this whole thread, but the least realistic. Bonus points for a multi-team proposal though.
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            • jbrsanders13
              Rookie
              • Jun 2013
              • 32

              #7566
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by Bluejaysfan65
              So I have a pretty bad catcher situation with J.P. Arencibia out for almost the rest of the season. I'm rolling with Thole and Blanc right now, but I'm seriously looking for someone to be able to be a stopgap before Arencibia returns. I was thinking John Buck, Nick Hundley or Saltalamacchia. Any idea on how something could work out? Willing to take suggestions as well.

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              Don't trade for Buck unless you want your catcher to hit .150 the rest of the season. Maybe it's just me but I can't hit with him. Or he probably just sucks. I'd go with Hundley, and they'd probably just give him up. I'd go with maybe Ahrens or Murphy for Hundley.

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              • ClarkWGrizwold
                Rookie
                • Feb 2008
                • 237

                #7567
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by G3no_11
                So you're giving up Valdespin, Tejada, and 1 or 2 RP and you think you can get CarGo in return? lol
                I didn't make the trade the pieces are not final, but my thinking is that the Mets are taking on 13.5 mill for the next 5 yrs and the Rockies are clearing his and Heltons money and getting back at least 4 high b prospects/players in return

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                • G3no_11
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1110

                  #7568
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ClarkWGrizwold
                  I didn't make the trade the pieces are not final, but my thinking is that the Mets are taking on 13.5 mill for the next 5 yrs and the Rockies are clearing his and Heltons money and getting back at least 4 high b prospects/players in return
                  Who is a high B? Isn't Valdespin a High C at best?

                  Also, if the Rockies and Mets are BOTH going into rebuild mode... why would the Rockies trade CarGo to the Mets? Seems more of a "win now" type of move for the Mets.

                  Another question. Are you going for realism at all? There would be a riot in Denver if the Rockies traded Helton in what is probably his final year. And IMO it is not very realistic to be trading CarGo in 2013.
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                  • AC
                    Win the East
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14951

                    #7569
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by ClarkWGrizwold
                    I just got to July 1st in the first season of my Mets franchise, I'm 7 games under and looking to make a big trade. Here's my crazy idea the Mets and Rockies are out of it and the Nats and Cards lead the divisions . With that in mind the Rockies are looking to rebuild as are my Mets with the Nats and Cards looking to make their run. Most of the players are blocked by better players on their teams.

                    Mets get Cargo
                    Rockies get Matt Adams, Swaggerty, Tyler Moore and Valdespin
                    Nats get Helton and a RP
                    Cards get Ruben Tejada and a RP
                    >You're giving up Valdespin + Tejada + RP for CarGo
                    >Cards are getting Ruben Tejada and a most likely crappy RP for Jordan Swaggerty and Matt Adams
                    >Rockies would trade Helton
                    >CarGo would be acquired for Adams + Swaggerty + Moore + problem child
                    >4 team trades pretty much never happen

                    Just my thoughts.
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                    • Bluejaysfan65
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 4784

                      #7570
                      Originally posted by jbrsanders13
                      Don't trade for Buck unless you want your catcher to hit .150 the rest of the season. Maybe it's just me but I can't hit with him. Or he probably just sucks. I'd go with Hundley, and they'd probably just give him up. I'd go with maybe Ahrens or Murphy for Hundley.
                      The sad part is Buck hitting .150 would still be an upgrade from Thole's .080 batting average.
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                      • fanofikedavis
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 270

                        #7571
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by G3no_11
                        Yeah it's not bad fairness wise. He said he thought it was somewhat realistic, so I wasn't sure if he was going for realism or not.
                        I understand it wouldn't happen in real life, but it fits the needs of both my team and the Rays.

                        If Myers and d'Arnaud weren't just traded and were on their respective teams all along, then I'd say it's a bit more "life like," but you rarely see top prospects move around that much.

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                        • kmoser
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 1398

                          #7572
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          I am in February in my Astros chise about to start year 3. Saying my off season has been horrible would be an under statement. Jose Altuve got 5.4M from arbitration and Jordan Lyles got 2.9M from arb.

                          They are too expensive for me so I want to trade them. I have two trades I want you guys to look over please:

                          Astros Send: Altuve (93 OVR) mid A, Jordan Lyles (88 OVR) High B

                          Braves send: Andrelton Simmons (89 OVR) (high B), Julio Tehran (86 OVR) High B, CP Juan Jaime (77 OVR) Low B

                          Trade #2
                          Astros send:SS Nolan Fontana 24 yrs old (67 OVR) Low A, LF Robbie Grossman 25 yrs old (78 OVR) High B, Wesley Wright 30 yrs old, (81 OVR) High C

                          Phillies send: Dominic Brown 27 yrs old (91 OVR) Low A

                          The Phillies have been rebuilding and I think these prospects could pull Dom away from Philli.

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                          • Bluejaysfan65
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 4784

                            #7573
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by kmoser
                            I am in February in my Astros chise about to start year 3. Saying my off season has been horrible would be an under statement. Jose Altuve got 5.4M from arbitration and Jordan Lyles got 2.9M from arb.

                            They are too expensive for me so I want to trade them. I have two trades I want you guys to look over please:

                            Astros Send: Altuve (93 OVR) mid A, Jordan Lyles (88 OVR) High B

                            Braves send: Andrelton Simmons (89 OVR) (high B), Julio Tehran (86 OVR) High B, CP Juan Jaime (77 OVR) Low B

                            Trade #2
                            Astros send:SS Nolan Fontana 24 yrs old (67 OVR) Low A, LF Robbie Grossman 25 yrs old (78 OVR) High B, Wesley Wright 30 yrs old, (81 OVR) High C

                            Phillies send: Dominic Brown 27 yrs old (91 OVR) Low A

                            The Phillies have been rebuilding and I think these prospects could pull Dom away from Philli.
                            I don't know much about trades, but I'm going to say that the first trade seems pretty unrealistic to me. Although you are entering your third season so I'm not sure about that.
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                            • b22gamer
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                              • Mar 2010
                              • 362

                              #7574
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              In my A's Franchise, 4 days before the July 31st deadline and I am in 1st by 5 games. Eric Sogard has been tearing the cover off the ball, but I'd like to move Jed Lowrie to 2B and trade for Oakland-native, Jimmy Rollins. DO NOT want to give up Addison Russell, as J-Roll is probably a rent-a-player for my playoff push. Would you think one of Sonny Gray, Werner, or Straily? (PLEASE NOTE) these are with the OS Re-Rated rosters that were posted about a week ago.

                              Also, in the offseason I want to flip Grant Balfour (much like the A's do IRL) for a OF like Nimmo or Puello from the Mets.

                              Thoughts? Really enjoyed scouring through this thread.

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                              • nowitsourtime
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 876

                                #7575
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by kmoser
                                I am in February in my Astros chise about to start year 3. Saying my off season has been horrible would be an under statement. Jose Altuve got 5.4M from arbitration and Jordan Lyles got 2.9M from arb.

                                They are too expensive for me so I want to trade them. I have two trades I want you guys to look over please:

                                Astros Send: Altuve (93 OVR) mid A, Jordan Lyles (88 OVR) High B

                                Braves send: Andrelton Simmons (89 OVR) (high B), Julio Tehran (86 OVR) High B, CP Juan Jaime (77 OVR) Low B

                                Trade #2
                                Astros send:SS Nolan Fontana 24 yrs old (67 OVR) Low A, LF Robbie Grossman 25 yrs old (78 OVR) High B, Wesley Wright 30 yrs old, (81 OVR) High C

                                Phillies send: Dominic Brown 27 yrs old (91 OVR) Low A

                                The Phillies have been rebuilding and I think these prospects could pull Dom away from Philli.
                                Two questions:

                                What are Simmons's and Teheran's service times? Simmons's contract?

                                And what were Brown's numbers the season before?

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