2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[rjackson]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I don't think Ryan Wheeler should be a high B by any stretch. I'd probably just do that one straight up. Take back a fringe pen arm at best (which basically describes every RP on the Twins except Burton, Duensing, Perkins, and Fien).

In this game, I'm finding that potentials change quite a bit based on hot/cold streaks. In my franchise, Rymer Liriano is a top 50 prospect. I've seen some mentions where Trout & Harper are out of MLB by 28 and others where they are still squaring up tons at 30 something, even with the same rosters.
That said, I think a taxi-squad type of RP could be tossed in. Not someone great.

Looking for a cheap 2-3 string SS who can hit for contact...any suggestions

Adam Rosales was a great suggestion. I'll also say John McDonald.

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Adam Rosales was a great suggestion. I'll also say John McDonald.

John McDonald is an excellent option, but he really can't hit.



I have an interesting one for you guys. The Cardinals are 28-34 in mid June and and the Reds and Pirates are running away in the division. They're second last in the entire league in runs scored and 20th in earned runs. Which of these players do you think they would trade realistically?

Adam Wainwright; 4.48 ERA, 78.1 IP, 20 BB, 78 SO, 6 HR.

Shelby Miller; 2.74 ERA, 79 SO, 19 BB, 6 HR.

Jamie Garcia; 4.06 ERA, 71 IP, 69 SO, 22 BB, 7 HR.

Lance Lynn; 77.2 IP, 2.67 ERA, 73 SO, 24 BB, 4 HR.

Trevor Rosenthal; 3.82 ERA, 37.2 IP, 34 SO, 15 BB, 2 HR (reliever).

I gave all the FIP numbers, as I find DIPS can be pretty off sometimes.

Think they would trade any of them, or is it the 2:30 AM tiredness speaking? I can run WAR calculations, if need be

[KnickNation17]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

John McDonald is an excellent option, but he really can't hit.



I have an interesting one for you guys. The Cardinals are 28-34 in mid June and and the Reds and Pirates are running away in the division. They're second last in the entire league in runs scored and 20th in earned runs. Which of these players do you think they would trade realistically?

Adam Wainwright; 4.48 ERA, 78.1 IP, 20 BB, 78 SO, 6 HR.

Shelby Miller; 2.74 ERA, 79 SO, 19 BB, 6 HR.

Jamie Garcia; 4.06 ERA, 71 IP, 69 SO, 22 BB, 7 HR.

Lance Lynn; 77.2 IP, 2.67 ERA, 73 SO, 24 BB, 4 HR.

Trevor Rosenthal; 3.82 ERA, 37.2 IP, 34 SO, 15 BB, 2 HR (reliever).

I gave all the FIP numbers, as I find DIPS can be pretty off sometimes.

Think they would trade any of them, or is it the 2:30 AM tiredness speaking? I can run WAR calculations, if need be

Garcia defiantly, Lynn probably, Wainwright maybe depending on age.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

He said one that can hit. lol

For a 2nd or 3rd string SS, a career .269 average, 10.6% K-rate, 20.7% LD-rate, 89.3% contact rate, 94.6% Z-contact all scream decent contact hitter to me.

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

For a 2nd or 3rd string SS, a career .269 average, 10.6% K-rate, 20.7% LD-rate, 89.3% contact rate, 94.6% Z-contact all scream decent contact hitter to me.

I'm more so speaking to that he's been the worst player in baseball this year. I guess a lot of that comes from defense though.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

John McDonald is an excellent option, but he really can't hit.



I have an interesting one for you guys. The Cardinals are 28-34 in mid June and and the Reds and Pirates are running away in the division. They're second last in the entire league in runs scored and 20th in earned runs. Which of these players do you think they would trade realistically?

Adam Wainwright; 4.48 ERA, 78.1 IP, 20 BB, 78 SO, 6 HR.

Shelby Miller; 2.74 ERA, 79 SO, 19 BB, 6 HR.

Jamie Garcia; 4.06 ERA, 71 IP, 69 SO, 22 BB, 7 HR.

Lance Lynn; 77.2 IP, 2.67 ERA, 73 SO, 24 BB, 4 HR.

Trevor Rosenthal; 3.82 ERA, 37.2 IP, 34 SO, 15 BB, 2 HR (reliever).

I gave all the FIP numbers, as I find DIPS can be pretty off sometimes.

Think they would trade any of them, or is it the 2:30 AM tiredness speaking? I can run WAR calculations, if need be

Yes, it is the bold part. Too early for them to deal, and they're way too close to .500 to quit on the Wild Card. Plus they're the Cardinals; they probably have a run in them at some point.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I'm more so speaking to that he's been the worst player in baseball this year. I guess a lot of that comes from defense though.

Yeah, I was going for career averages. He's been pretty bad for Toronto. His -2.2 fWAR this year makes Starlin Castro's -0.7 fWAR look pretty not-as-terrible by comparison.

[AC]

Yes, it is the bold part. Too early for them to deal, and they're way too close to .500 to quit on the Wild Card. Plus they're the Cardinals; they probably have a run in them at some point.

Then you think they'd be interested in buying? I have pieces that could be a fit.

Also, is OS not loading for some? Only working in tapatalk for moi

[Bluejaysfan65]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Is it realistic for me (the Jays) to trade for Jeremy Hellickson of the Rays if he isn't doing well and just got put on the trade block? The Rays are way out of it and sit in second last in the AL East.

[AC]

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I don't think they would sell low on him.

[Bluejaysfan65]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I don't think they would sell low on him.

If I go with his regular value while he is performing poorly, would that be ok?

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Sure, but I don't see why you would want to do that.

[Bluejaysfan65]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Sure, but I don't see why you would want to do that.

I have my reasons....

[Bluejaysfan65]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

What do you guys think about this deal:

Jeremy Hellickson (2-5, 4.70 ERA) for Aaron Loup (4.09 ERA), Kyle Drabek (2-1, 3.61 ERA - AAA) and Darren Oliver (1-2, 1.36 ERA)?

The Rays are in last place in the American League East and they are definitely going to rebuild. I am currently trying to hold a one game lead over the New York Yankees for first place in the American League East.

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

If I go with his regular value while he is performing poorly, would that be ok?

Jeremy Hellickson (2-5, 4.70 ERA) for Aaron Loup (4.09 ERA), Kyle Drabek (2-1, 3.61 ERA - AAA) and Darren Oliver (1-2, 1.36 ERA)?

How do you go from regular value to two relievers and a bust?

Give them Stroman/Hutchison and Goins/Kawasaki/Lugo/Lopes.