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  • AC
    Win the East
    • Sep 2010
    • 14951

    #8686
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Hellickson for Cabrera may work.
    "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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    • WaitTilNextYear
      Go Cubs Go
      • Mar 2013
      • 16830

      #8687
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      I don't have a dog in the Lawrie vs. Headley fight, but I wish they'd both be more consistent. In a way they are both very similar with having flashed fringe MVP talent, but have been so so except for those brief flashes.
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      • rjackson
        MVP
        • Apr 2005
        • 1661

        #8688
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        I think they are both overrated to be honest. I do wonder what Headley would do in another ballpark, though. Petco is supressive and you can see it in his splits.

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        • rjackson
          MVP
          • Apr 2005
          • 1661

          #8689
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ACMilan99
          I think you're missing out on the fact that Lawrie is a league average player at 23. Do you realize how incredible that is?

          And LOL at Gose < Amarista. Okay there, man.
          Average at 23 is not that amazing. Look at what guys like Bonds, Griffey, Harper, Trout, and many more have done at younger ages. Amarista has at least played everyday for a full season and Gose can't hit his way out of a paper bag. But I was saying that I don't know whether to make them equal or one above the other. Ideally, they are both role players.

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          • AC
            Win the East
            • Sep 2010
            • 14951

            #8690
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by rjackson
            I think they are both overrated to be honest. I do wonder what Headley would do in another ballpark, though. Petco is supressive and you can see it in his splits.
            wRC+ is a thing.

            Originally posted by rjackson
            Average at 23 is not that amazing. Look at what guys like Bonds, Griffey, Harper, Trout, and many more have done at younger ages. Amarista has at least played everyday for a full season and Gose can't hit his way out of a paper bag. But I was saying that I don't know whether to make them equal or one above the other. Ideally, they are both role players.
            ..........

            So Brett Lawrie isn't a HOF worthy player. That decreases his value? The fact that you can even almost mention him there is something. I think you need some perspective here.

            Playing time is not indicative of value, Gose provides other value, yada yada, but I agree with the role players thing.
            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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            • KBLover
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 12172

              #8691
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by ACMilan99
              Hellickson for Cabrera may work.
              Hmm...

              I might would do that, though Hellickson just improved to 6-0 so I might wait until he cools off

              *sigh* Curse you Yunel Escobar. Why do you have to suck?
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              • AC
                Win the East
                • Sep 2010
                • 14951

                #8692
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                W-L record really isn't indicative lol. 2.99 ERA though? He's worth more than Asdrubal at this point. If he's being a DIPS beater then you should sell high. Maybe you could look into Howie Kendrick if you need 2B help, or Erick Aybar. Maybe Starlin Castro, even.
                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                • WaitTilNextYear
                  Go Cubs Go
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 16830

                  #8693
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ACMilan99
                  W-L record really isn't indicative lol. 2.99 ERA though? He's worth more than Asdrubal at this point. If he's being a DIPS beater then you should sell high. Maybe you could look into Howie Kendrick if you need 2B help, or Erick Aybar. Maybe Starlin Castro, even.

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                  • Bluejaysfan65
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 4784

                    #8694
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Who would be some suitors for Jeff Baker? I have a couple of young outfielders and I just don't see Baker as being a part of my teams plans any more. I was thinking Pittsburgh...
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                    • KBLover
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 12172

                      #8695
                      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by ACMilan99
                      W-L record really isn't indicative lol. 2.99 ERA though? He's worth more than Asdrubal at this point. If he's being a DIPS beater then you should sell high. Maybe you could look into Howie Kendrick if you need 2B help, or Erick Aybar. Maybe Starlin Castro, even.
                      Haha - true. I can just look at Price's record for me so far (3-4, 2.59 ERA) to see that

                      The game has his DIPS ERA at 2.96, so it looks like he's been where he 'should be'. I have his FIP at 3.16, so that's right there as well.

                      But - dang, you had to mention Castro...Now I'm going to be mad because they don't want Hellickson. They want Moore...Ugh, I want Castro.

                      I looked at Aybar, and they'd do it for Hellickson and Kelly Johnson (why they want him when they have Kendrick...I don't know) but I don't even want Aybar anymore. *sigh*
                      "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                      • AC
                        Win the East
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14951

                        #8696
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
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                        I forgot, you're one of the six cubs fans who don't realize Castro may get traded




                        Originally posted by KBLover
                        The game has his DIPS ERA at 2.96, so it looks like he's been where he 'should be'. I have his FIP at 3.16, so that's right there as well.
                        Impressive.. interested in Brad Miller or Nick Franklin?
                        "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                        • KBLover
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 12172

                          #8697
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by ACMilan99
                          Impressive.. interested in Brad Miller or Nick Franklin?
                          Franklin's out for at least the year with a torn ACL.

                          What I might do is use the trick I saw earlier in the thread - lower down the ratings of who I'd want and is fair to get and then make the trade.
                          "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                          • AC
                            Win the East
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14951

                            #8698
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            I'd go for Miller, cause if you want Castro, you're obviously gonna have to add in a bit more. And that's if he's having an off year. If he's having a good year, forget about it haha.
                            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                            • KBLover
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 12172

                              #8699
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by ACMilan99
                              I'd go for Miller, cause if you want Castro, you're obviously gonna have to add in a bit more. And that's if he's having an off year. If he's having a good year, forget about it haha.
                              D:

                              He's not having a bad year. Not sure if it's 'good', per se, but .352 OBP (nice), .132 ISO (he's not a power hitter, so...), 6.1 Batting Runs (not too bad I guess, hard to tell in late May).

                              Oh well, I could do worse than having Hellickson in the rotation.
                              "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 14951

                                #8700
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                .350 OBP for Starlin Castro = yeah, you're maybe probably definitely not getting him.

                                There's Chris Owings on the Diamondbacks, Raul Alcalantra on the Cubs, and Trevor Story on the Rockies. Now that I think about it, Story for Hellickson is absolutely perfect for you.
                                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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