Franchise Player Ratings Decline

[geisterhome]

Re: Franchise Player Ratings Decline

What's the point of having a spring training if you're just forced to skip it every year? That's why people are complaining. Just because there's a workaround for something, doesn't mean there's no reason to complain or wonder if it's an issue.

Exactly! I'm really no fan of such workarounds.

Everybody here who doesn't want to see player ratings drop by 20 points just during spring training please remember to vote the bug report in my signature!

[LakerFan56]

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I'm doing Franchise Mode with the Dodgers. I decided to play a game each week as that's likely what I'll do in the regular season unless the comp keeps losing. The only players that saw deep drops were Hairston Jr and Mark Ellis, both in their late 30s. I was paranoid about Crawford, Gonzalez and any player over 30 but they were pretty much the same going into the regular season. It seems a bit realistic this way but at the same time I wonder if a player turns 35, then that's it.

[BBallcoach]

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I'm doing Franchise Mode with the Dodgers. I decided to play a game each week as that's likely what I'll do in the regular season unless the comp keeps losing. The only players that saw deep drops were Hairston Jr and Mark Ellis, both in their late 30s. I was paranoid about Crawford, Gonzalez and any player over 30 but they were pretty much the same going into the regular season. It seems a bit realistic this way but at the same time I wonder if a player turns 35, then that's it.

its once they turn 36 its a steep down turn, which for most players it should be but there are a few that will put up great numbers and it doesnt matter. thats what bugs me...
We can't have spring training battles and in a game where numbers are everything, the dont mean anything regarding a player's decline. Of course older guys should get worse. but in my season ortiz hit .320, 36 hr, 124 rbi and went from a 90 to 73 declining 17 points in each attribute... sounds a little crazy with those numbers, I get a 5-10 point drop but 17 seems too much for that much production

[skow05]

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its once they turn 36 its a steep down turn, which for most players it should be but there are a few that will put up great numbers and it doesnt matter. thats what bugs me...
We can't have spring training battles and in a game where numbers are everything, the dont mean anything regarding a player's decline. Of course older guys should get worse. but in my season ortiz hit .320, 36 hr, 124 rbi and went from a 90 to 73 declining 17 points in each attribute... sounds a little crazy with those numbers, I get a 5-10 point drop but 17 seems too much for that much production

I'm assuming that even at a 73 ovr, a 38 year old David Ortiz will be plenty serviceable. That upcoming season will be the year Ortiz sees a drop-off in his performance, and from that point he can retire at 39 years old or keep playing and be a shell of his former self. It's harsh considering the season he was coming off of, but it's not unrealistic.

It's a far from perfect system currently. But I would rather have it be the way it is now than having a franchise cluttered with 35-40 year old All-Stars.

[BBallcoach]

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I'm assuming that even at a 73 ovr, a 38 year old David Ortiz will be plenty serviceable. That upcoming season will be the year Ortiz sees a drop-off in his performance, and from that point he can retire at 39 years old or keep playing and be a shell of his former self. It's harsh considering the season he was coming off of, but it's not unrealistic.

It's a far from perfect system currently. But I would rather have it be the way it is now rather than having a franchise cluttered with 35-40 year old All-Stars.

agreed. I just wish it was tuned. I wish he was around an 80 to start his 38 year old year, then drop 10 more as the year progresses then a 70 ovl ortiz at 39.
But i do agree that the current system with no spring work around is good.

[BatsareBugs]

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It's a far from perfect system currently. But I would rather have it be the way it is now than having a franchise cluttered with 35-40 year old All-Stars.

Just wanted to quote this. Hopefully that means young prospects on the OSFM roster seven years down the line actually have a chance to be starting players at the MLB level and not in the AAA level.

Most "Rookies" were 27 or 28 when I got to my seventh year in the league, none of the young prospects were even sniffing a chance because some stars were in their primes and others refused to decline.

[LakerFan56]

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It's a far from perfect system currently. But I would rather have it be the way it is now than having a franchise cluttered with 35-40 year old All-Stars.

Agreed. It was annoying having to keep Juan Rivera so long while younger players were not progressing enough to take his spot. That won't be an issue this year thank goodness.

[skow05]

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Just wanted to quote this. Hopefully that means young prospects on the OSFM roster seven years down the line actually have a chance to be starting players at the MLB level and not in the AAA level.

Most "Rookies" were 27 or 28 when I got to my seventh year in the league, none of the young prospects were even sniffing a chance because some stars were in their primes and others refused to decline.

Man, I was hoping that seven years in you would be seeing an entirely different league with many new starters.

[garyjr33]

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I picked up this too, none of the older players on my Yankees franchise dropped when I just hit "end spring training".....they did however severely decline during the offseason, which seemed the more appropriate time for that to happen......overall tho I am pleased with the progression/regression system, it's the best it's been in the series and much improved over MLB 12....I hope SCEA doesn't drastically change it

That works for me...sounds good. If Jeter declines then fine but I just don't see it happening this year. I want one more solid year out of him then I want the challenge of dealing with his decline because I plan to play multiple seasons this year.

I knew this thread existed but I had just started a new thread because I could not find it with the search engine for some reason. Oh well. Sorry mods, for my previous thread.

[seanjeezy]

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Just wanted to quote this. Hopefully that means young prospects on the OSFM roster seven years down the line actually have a chance to be starting players at the MLB level and not in the AAA level.

Most "Rookies" were 27 or 28 when I got to my seventh year in the league, none of the young prospects were even sniffing a chance because some stars were in their primes and others refused to decline.

Young guys will progress rapidly during spring training, 2-5 points in overall.

[ManiacMatt1782]

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It's not an issue it's by design all part of the new player progression and regression logic.

It is a tad drastic. Speedy players should start to lose their legs, But good hitters should retain most of their batting attributes. But slow them down do they bexome defensive liabilities. Jamie Carroll isnt going to forget how to hit a baseball after spring training.

[nascarfreak24ny]

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Young guys come to dominate the league after a 2 or 3 years. In my franchise jesus montero was a 99 in year two, zunnio was a 94, Oscar Taveres was a 98, miller was a 93, martinez was a 94 (traded the king away for all 3). and alot of times the ROY winner is Dominant. no more .242/14/73 lines, Sano hit .319/38/103

[seanjeezy]

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Young guys come to dominate the league after a 2 or 3 years. In my franchise jesus montero was a 99 in year two, zunnio was a 94, Oscar Taveres was a 98, miller was a 93, martinez was a 94 (traded the king away for all 3). and alot of times the ROY winner is Dominant. no more .242/14/73 lines, Sano hit .319/38/103

Yeah I just simmed a season and Montero went from an 85 to a 94, 5-8 point increases across the board... I actually like this, we've been asking for players to explode at a young age for a while, the frequency is a little concerning though.

[nascarfreak24ny]

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Yeah I just simmed a season and Montero went from an 85 to a 94, 5-8 point increases across the board... I actually like this, we've been asking for players to explode at a young age for a while, the frequency is a little concerning though.

Yeah so in the sense that rookies can just explode onto the scene and be game changers, that part is great. But still, im not sure if kuroda should be a 60 after the next 2 seasons. Does it seem like the pitchers progress a tad (a tiny, tiny, tiny, bit) slower? I mean OT goes to a 98 after 2 years (he did have a monster rookie year in AAA to bump him up to a 92) maybe its just that he has the most potential, i probably should have looked to see how bundy was doing, but i thought martinez would progress a little faster (maybe I have his ceiling wrong), but I guess for now, the good outweighs the bad by a little

[geisterhome]

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Keep voting guys, link to the bug report is in my signature. made it to the first page already!