first pitch meatballs....bug?

[Ljm623]

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I mainly just play RTTS.. for me legend default is the way to go so far this year.. i'm seeing plenty of first pitch out of the zone breaking pitches on legend, and it plays really well for me so far.. now on Allstar it does seem to throw allot of first pitch fastballs right down the middle.. i had 9 homeruns in 15 games, and 7 of them was by me sitting on first pitch fastballs right down broadway on Allstar.. that doesn't seem to happen as much on legend.

[Levesque7]

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As a general rule -- because I tend to be a free swinger -- I take almost every first pitch. I'll actually sit the controller down in front of me to fight the instinct to swing away if I have to.

Having said that, I haven't noticed this issue. I'd say it's probably close to 50/50 whether I end up starting an at-bat down 0-1 or up 1-0. The CPU might adjust their approach if I were to start being aggressive on the first pitch, I don't know. But I'd have noticed if I were digging myself an 0-1 hole by not swinging, and that certainly hasn't happened.

What game mode are you playing? This seems relevant.

It seems to happen most ABs in RTTS, while other game modes it is only the first pitch of the inning or when a new pitcher comes in.

[PVarck31]

I have definitely seen this issue. When I saw this thread I started paying attention to this. Its very noticeable. Hope this is something that can be patched.

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[ajb3313]

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What game mode are you playing? This seems relevant.

It seems to happen most ABs in RTTS, while other game modes it is only the first pitch of the inning or when a new pitcher comes in.

Franchise primarily. So, yeah, if it's a RTTS-only issue, I wouldn't have experienced it.

[PsychoBulk]

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Even the spray chart wasn't significant in my opinion, but that is just my interpretation.

I agree that the spray chart i posted can easily be dismissed as a one off.

Im going to test later, the first test will be first pitches of every inning thrown by the CPU, ill get some spray chart results on here and we can discuss.

Ill then move on to first pitch of each at bat at a later stage.

[ParisB]

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I have several screenshots like psycho bulk, and theyreball very similar. Even if I'm raking against the CPU.

Its a real problem, but we seem to have the typical crowd where the game is perfect.

Confirmation bias goes both ways. Everyone cane agree that 90% first strike down the center is a problem. This isn't only in rtts, and this is also on HoF so the "easy difficulties do this intentionally" arguments don't fly.

[dkrause1971]

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We have a few problems right now.

1) We need to start comparing the exact same things. Meaning we need to use the exact same parameters and methods. Meaning in my example- only exhibition, only first pitch of the inning, keeping track of what pitch was thrown, where it was thrown. By keeping track i mean literally writing it down or making a video, whatever. Not i remember it like this stuff. I feel this is key because if my thoughts are correct, then one can expand to other ABs, or to RTTS, etc.

2) In my case providing evidence other than my word is difficult. We are talking only the first pitch of the inning in exhibition. Without a video capture device that is tough to do. Example, i am only facing the first pitch of each inning. I am thru 4 innings but the pitcher analysis shows 7 pitches. I am assuming that unless i hit the first pitch fair that the rest of those ABs are simming the rest of the AB and showing in the pitcher analysis, because i know i personally only faced 4 pitches in this particular game. This is the third game in a row i am seeing more pitches thrown than the 8 or 9 first pitch of the inning that i faced.

So whether your on the RTTS front or exhibition front. Lets get actual parameters set. I personally think the RTTS problem is an off shoot of the exhibition problem and we should focus on exhibition.

[dkrause1971]

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I agree that the spray chart i posted can easily be dismissed as a one off.

Im going to test later, the first test will be first pitches of every inning thrown by the CPU, ill get some spray chart results on here and we can discuss.

Ill then move on to first pitch of each at bat at a later stage.

You'll likely run into a problem on the displaying of the first pitch of a inning only data. I am running into more pitches thrown than balls i faced. I am thru 4 innings but the pitcher analysis shows 7 pitches. I am assuming that unless i hit the first pitch fair that the rest of those ABs are simming the rest of that AB and showing in the pitcher analysis, because i know i personally only faced 4 pitches in this particular game and simmed right after it. This is the third game in a row i am seeing more pitches thrown than the 8 or 9 first pitch of the inning that i faced.

Update- something is off here. I am thru 2 innings of only facing the first pitch of an inning and have hit both first pitches fair and the pitcher analysis screen is showing 9 pitches thrown.

[basketballer0385]

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I was seeing first pitch fastball I went on a year and the next few games I havent gotten it at all but what I wonder is if they say your 55 overall were gonna challenge you type thought by the cpu

[BrianU]

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If you guys are gonna compare or run tests you should use the same settings such as All-Star/Default sliders

[Sip_16]

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I noticed this for sure....playing RTTS i noticed it happens almost every at bat first pitch is fastball 80-90% of the time

I play mostly franchise tho and noticed it is almost every first pitch of each inning. It seems to have issues in all modes but in different way.

I am playing on HOF and pitcher consistency and strike % sliders are down a notch or 2...in franchise i have Jose Reyes hitting almost .500 because he gets a meatball to start the game every game.

[AUTiger1]

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hmm, just tried with the sliders at 0,0,0 and am still getting a strike on the first pitch of the inning 100% of the time. 1 was a ball but they called it a strike lol

Well my game I was in the middle of playing last night went into extra innings so I started trying to hit homeruns on very pitch and the first pitch of nearly every at-bat (and inning) was a ball way out of the zone because I was swinging for the fences. So no not every first pitch of a inning is a strike.

[AUTiger1]

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The first pitch of an inning is an absolute issue, #1 pitch every time right down broadway, it even happens in batting practice. Afterwords however things regulate in exhibition mode to a more normal 60% or so. I'm completely on board however with the first pitch of an inning.

No it's not. The first pitch of every inning is not a meatball. At least not with the CPU pitcher sliders all the way at 0. If they were I would have won my game last night that went into extra innings. But I lost because the pitcher (it didn't matter who) was throwing balls way out of the zone but I was so geared up to swing at a meatball to try to hit a walkoff bomb that I ended up striking out a ton because the CPU stopped throwing them.

[dkrause1971]

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Well my game I was in the middle of playing last night went into extra innings so I started trying to hit homeruns on very pitch and the first pitch of nearly every at-bat (and inning) was a ball way out of the zone because I was swinging for the fences. So no not every first pitch of a inning is a strike.

The problem with these posts is people come into the thread and decide well see he proved the opposite. The thing is the post proves nothing. Accurate tracking of inning by inning, game by game is needed. I have said i have seen some balls even with this issue from time to time. Until people want to put in the work and use the same parameters, settings, methods we are just spinning our wheels.

As for everything at 0, i do not know. I haven't tested at zero. Plus, i didn't say every pitch was a meatball. I said the first pitch of the inning is the pitchers #1 pitch. The high majority are in the center of the strike zone. Again the problem is people not understanding the issue first and not testing second.

[Bahnzo]

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So here's a breakdown of CPU first strikes in an exhibition game vs Sabathia/Yankees.

All-Star Batting
CPU Control 4
CPU Consistency 3
CPU Strike Freq 2

While 65% is too high (and I helped out on a few pitches), it's not nearly as extreme as people are saying. "every pitch a meatball" and "sliders have no effect" just doesn't fly. And this was with one of the better pitchers in the MLB. I'd imagine with lesser pitchers the numbers would drop.