Runners slowing down rounding third

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Runners slowing down rounding third

I don't understand why it was implemented.

Tell me the sense in implementing a bug into a game in order to make it more realistic? It defeats the purpose.

Sony has said its working the way its intended to, and its been shown that there is a bug by numerous videos. Even the CPU can't run the bases right.

That can only mean that Sony put the bug there on purpose. They said so themselves. Putting a bug in is not a fix. Its cheap.

Sorry, but you can't make something more realistic by adding a feature which defies the laws of physics.

A runner changing his direction and losing slight momentum was absolutely a good idea. I believe the fact that it was implemented at all shows us that the Developers are always striving to make things appear more realistic out on the diamond.

In years past, I'd always felt that it was pretty unrealistic to see baserunners turning corners at essentially their top running speed. It was pretty video-gamey and unnatural.

This year it is a little over-the-top. I believe the animation should have (1) only been reserved for the lower rung of baserunner attributes and (2) done in a way where it didn't so abruptly slow the runner down.

But to call out Developement for intentionally introducing a bug? Come on now.

I'll say this again: I get that some people are frustrated, but why all of a sudden does that give way to conspiracy theories and call-outs? I'll never understand this.

[ktd1976]

Re: Runners slowing down rounding third

A runner changing his direction and losing slight momentum was absolutely a good idea. I believe the fact that it was implemented at all shows us that the Developers are always striving to make things appear more realistic out on the diamond.

In years past, I'd always felt that it was pretty unrealistic to see baserunners turning corners at essentially their top running speed. It was pretty video-gamey and unnatural.

This year it is a little over-the-top. I believe the animation should have (1) only been reserved for the lower rung of baserunner attributes and (2) done in a way where it didn't so abruptly slow the runner down.

But to call out Developement for intentionally introducing a bug? Come on now.

I'll say this again: I get that some people are frustrated, but why all of a sudden does that give way to conspiracy theories and call-outs? I'll never understand this.

If it was an animation that showed why the runner slowed down, I could live with that. What really ticks me off is those animations are in the game, and implemented almost perfectly, yet runners rounding third slow down without those animations triggering.

Point is, good MLB baserunners ARE ABLE to round the bases at full speed (or really darn close to) if they take the correct angles. Yet, for some reason, they put in the slowdown, saying it is working properly. It's NOT working properly if the runner is rounding the base in slow motion while taking the right angles.

[apps80]

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I don't understand how its a conspiracy if they admitted to doing it and they say its running the way they want it.

[Blzer]

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I don't understand how its a conspiracy if they admitted to doing it and they say its running the way they want it.

Better yet, it's technically not a bug if it's not an unwanted occurrence based on the programming code.

However, I still implore them to reconsider.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Runners slowing down rounding third

Better yet, it's technically not a bug if it's not an unwanted occurrence based on the programming code.

However, I still implore them to reconsider.

"Marston, you IMPLORE me?!?!?!"

Sorry, I had to.

[ManiacMatt1782]

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If it is a bad base runner who has been queued up to take the extra base in advance, then maybe every once in a while he should lose his footing rounding the base, then then you might have to send him back, But the quicksand running in place animation has got to go. Give visual feedback as to why the runner slowed down, don't just slow them down. No I am only talking about the slowdown that is evident even with a proper turn, Not the late turn that gets the even good baserunners to slow down. That shouldnt be changed at all and is great.

[chaz526]

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I'm not finding the slowdown to be the problem, but rather my ability to queue up the intended base in time. The runner is always past the halfway mark by the time I choose the base for him to run to. I'm ALWAYS too late, no matter how quickly I try.

[ktd1976]

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So, I just had the "quick sand" slowdown happen on a play where my runner was TAGGING UP at third base. Tell me again, SCEA, how this is intended to happen.....

Thankfully it was on a fly ball to the warning track in center at Comerica Park, so my runner was safe anyways.

[MIKEY93]

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Well, this can be an issue for me. I don't know about you, but I control every individual runner on default baserunning. I never control all of them at the same time. Even if the bases are loaded, I control them individually. Since I'm used to it, it works out fine. But I send them to the next base at the very last second. Like if there's a hit & a runner on 2nd, I wait until the runner is almost to 3rd then control him with L-stick left (3rd base) & press X to send him home. Same thing when I want a runner to go 1st to 3rd (L-stick up & press ■) or to have a double (L-stick right & press ▲). So honestly, this can be an issue for me. Looks like I have to decide to send the runner on a hit beforehand. But it's not gonna be easy. I don't have the game yet, but like others have said, I understand what was implemented here. It's a nice touch to the game, but the slow-motion looks ugly. A better-looking animation can make it look better.

[Bat]

Re: Runners slowing down rounding third

If it is truly by design why do I never see it while rounding other bases? Only rounding 3rd. Also if they get a bad jump or whatever they should have some kind of animation to show that.. and not just slow a guy down. I have been thrown out way too much at home.

[nemesis04]

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If it is truly by design why do I never see it while rounding other bases? Only rounding 3rd. Also if they get a bad jump or whatever they should have some kind of animation to show that.. and not just slow a guy down. I have been thrown out way too much at home.

I see the breakdown happen at 2b as well not just 3b.

[tofubrain2]

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Because of a lack of associated animation with the slowdown, it was easy to chalk it up as a bug. The runners locomotion would dictate a slowdown, momentum would obviously shift to the outside.

But without the actual player model indicating such a change, it comes across as a CPU advantage.

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This coupled with Ichiro the last AB cost me 2 runs in a crucial game. So this effect would so significantly change the skill level both Ichiro and Jeter possess as above-average to excellent baserunners? It wasn't Pete Incaviglia out there lumbering past third.

[tofubrain2]

Re: Runners slowing down rounding third

Point is, good MLB baserunners ARE ABLE to round the bases at full speed (or really darn close to) if they take the correct angles. Yet, for some reason, they put in the slowdown, saying it is working properly. It's NOT working properly if the runner is rounding the base in slow motion while taking the right angles.

My point exactly.

[bayman]

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If you are going to post videos you need to show the entire lead up to the runner getting to 3rd. Just saying you were holding L1 the whole time, doesn't prove anything, since you can actually see when it's pressed by the runner's path. The only major "problem" with the system right now is that the game doesn't have the chop steps that real runners do when they are changing direction and just looks silly when they slow down the normal animation. There will most definitely be improvements to the system next year, but as Russell has said, the system is not "broken".

[MrOldboy]

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After playing a few games on rookie to score a bunch of runs and having a ton of runners round third I feel that the slowdown at third is fine as an occurrence as it makes speed at 2nd feel more important. But I really dislike the way it is visually represented in game. Simply slowing down the animation just looks bad and honestly I can't blame anyone for thinking this was a bug as it looks like a bug.

The animations at 2nd feel great as it makes it harder to score from 1st on a double unless you are thinking home all the way. Although its nearly impossible to go 1st to third without getting the late turn animation. Its confusing why a similar animation wasn't implemented at 3rd base as well.