Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

[eric7064]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

I saw some videos of the Cubs 40 man.

Jackson is still an A. 71 OVR

Vizcaino is an A, 67 OVR

Vitters was a B.

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

I saw some videos of the Cubs 40 man.

Jackson is still an A. 71 OVR

Vizcaino is an A, 67 OVR

Vitters was a B.

Yeah, disappointing Jackson is an A. Should be a low B or C+ even.

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

So do you guys have any ideas or opinions on where some of these guys should end up statistically?

[js3512]

If jackson's still an A then baez, Soler, and Almora all have to be A's as well.

[jnavarro]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Yeah, disappointing Jackson is an A. Should be a low B or C+ even.

Don't give up on him too quickly. He is killing the ball this spring and breaking in a new swing with less holes in it. That is basically what Rizzo had to do after his September disaster with the Padres and look how it turned out for him. Maybe last year was the wakeup call Jackson needed to get him to take some coaching and change his swing. If he can ever get his average even into the .275 range his other tools would make him a very valuable player. Maybe not an A, but a solid B.

[js3512]

Can't speak for anyone else but I never saw Jackson as an A. Always thought he was more of a A-/B+. That was before last year's call up.

[seanjeezy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

If jackson's still an A then baez, Soler, and Almora all have to be A's as well.

That really isn't a justification for increasing the number of A's... I'd rather recreate Jackson and Vitters (ugh) as B's, there are only a finite number of A's allowed and we're already pushing the limit.

[js3512]

As long as the other two are recreated that's fine but I was saying if Jackson and vitters are left as is then those 3 should be as well.

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

That really isn't a justification for increasing the number of A's... I'd rather recreate Jackson and Vitters (ugh) as B's, there are only a finite number of A's allowed and we're already pushing the limit.

Are there any other solutions to combat the A potentials in terms of editing Vitters and Jackson as SCEA players? I'd rather they'd be in the game as SCEA players, but if the A potential is such a done deal in terms of progression than they should probably be remade.

[skow05]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Are there any other solutions to combat the A potentials in terms of editing Vitters and Jackson as SCEA players? I'd rather they'd be in the game as SCEA players, but if the A potential is such a done deal in terms of progression than they should probably be remade.

I really don't think there's any other way around that. Those two have to be remade in my mind. Jackson should be a B at the most imo, B- is where I'd probably grade him out. Vitters should be a C, possibly C+.

[skow05]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Don't give up on him too quickly. He is killing the ball this spring and breaking in a new swing with less holes in it. That is basically what Rizzo had to do after his September disaster with the Padres and look how it turned out for him. Maybe last year was the wakeup call Jackson needed to get him to take some coaching and change his swing. If he can ever get his average even into the .275 range his other tools would make him a very valuable player. Maybe not an A, but a solid B.

I don't think anyone is giving up on him. It's just clear that he's not a superstar-A-potential player. It's not an indictment, it's just his ceiling is more of the .265/.340/.460 (imo) variety with a lot of k's and above-average-to-good speed/defense, rather than a perennial All-Star that an A would make him.

[yanksdaniel99]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Are there any other solutions to combat the A potentials in terms of editing Vitters and Jackson as SCEA players? I'd rather they'd be in the game as SCEA players, but if the A potential is such a done deal in terms of progression than they should probably be remade.

Pray SCEA changes them to Bs ? Other then that it's deal with the A's or remake them.

[seanjeezy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

I think it will be OK... Vitters is what, 23? He stunk last year so he should have really low ratings, and there's still a cap on progression so the chances of him ending up an A are slim... same thing with Jackson. What I'm really worried about is the trade logic, if those guys are higher than an A- they're going to be traded for studs.

Once I get the game I'll punch in Almora's ceiling and see what I get... I have a feeling he'll still rate out as a B+ though.

[yanksdaniel99]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

I think it will be OK... Vitters is what, 23? He stunk last year so he should have really low ratings, and there's still a cap on progression so the chances of him ending up an A are slim... same thing with Jackson. What I'm really worried about is the trade logic, if those guys are higher than an A- they're going to be traded for studs.

Once I get the game I'll punch in Almora's ceiling and see what I get... I have a feeling he'll still rate out as a B+ though.

Don't think so, even if they're rated 60-70, we're still talking 5-7 years of progression, I think we're still seeing them progress into the 90's.

While individual ratings affect the way guys perform, it's the overall rating that affects which players make the team, who starts, who gets demoted at the end of ST.

[seanjeezy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Don't think so, even if they're rated 60-70, we're still talking 5-7 years of progression, I think we're still seeing them progress into the 90's.

While individual ratings affect the way guys perform, it's the overall rating that affects which players make the team, who starts, who gets demoted at the end of ST.

We'll know for sure when we get the game, but for now this is what I'm going off of:

Montero 97
The Bartender 94
Ackley 90
Furbush 86
Beaven 83
Ramierz 83
Saunders 83
Seager 82 (He missed most of 13) has b potential
Triunfel a 77 (That isn't starter quality, but better than i would of thought)

Bat pm'd me when he got the game and these were from one of his sims. Triunfel is probably an A-, his overall didn't increase as much as Montero's.

Edit:

Well I guess Montero and Triunfel progressed about the same... In one of his other sims Bat said Montero was a 99 though.