Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

[hjgilber]

Yeah, and a grown man charges the mound which results in a serious injury but I bet that's no big deal. He's young, he's a competitor, it's the first sign of any mental problems, attitude wise. He'll be fine and this will help him.

Agreed, I think this will be a good learning experience for him.

[bestkeptsecret13]

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Anybody found a good Rock Shoulders or Zeke DeVoss CAP that they'd like to share?

[jseward92]

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Im going to edit my first round draft pick at the end of the first year. So you do you guy's think the Cubs will draft? I am stuck between Mark Appel and Sean Manaea. I may base it off what the potential is. If I do that then if the guy I drafted is an A+ then Ill make him Manaea. If he is A or A- I would make him Appel. Cant remember what his potential is from when I scouted him. Thoughts? I have heard Appel is farther along but Manaea has a higher ceiling.

[jseward92]

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Anybody found a good Rock Shoulders or Zeke DeVoss CAP that they'd like to share?

I haven't found them. But I think MrOldboy created some extra guys not sure if those two were among them. You might want to pm him and ask if he has them.

[hjgilber]

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Im going to edit my first round draft pick at the end of the first year. So you do you guy's think the Cubs will draft? I am stuck between Mark Appel and Sean Manaea. I may base it off what the potential is. If I do that then if the guy I drafted is an A+ then Ill make him Manaea. If he is A or A- I would make him Appel. Cant remember what his potential is from when I scouted him. Thoughts? I have heard Appel is farther along but Manaea has a higher ceiling.

Well there is also a chance the Cubs will draft neither of them. Jonathan Gray is easily better than Manea at this point. I also think Appel has a higher ceiling than Manea. Manea has fallen a bit this year.

[jseward92]

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Well there is also a chance the Cubs will draft neither of them. Jonathan Gray is easily better than Manea at this point. I also think Appel has a higher ceiling than Manea. Manea has fallen a bit this year.

Yeah they are looking at like six guys or so. Gray is going to be really good but you could say that about 4 of the top guys with Stanek included in there. I'm leaning towards Appel but I forgot about Gray. Who do you think will be in the majors first Appel or Gray? Haven't heard any ETA for either this year but last year some gave Appel a late 2014 or early 2015. It really just depends on how they perform though.

[hjgilber]

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Yeah they are looking at like six guys or so. Gray is going to be really good but you could say that about 4 of the top guys with Stanek included in there. I'm leaning towards Appel but I forgot about Gray. Who do you think will be in the majors first Appel or Gray? Haven't heard any ETA for either this year but last year some gave Appel a late 2014 or early 2015. It really just depends on how they perform though.

Appel will make it up first. He is going to move very fast. Early 2014 is likely, some even think he could pitch in the big leagues this fall! Unlikely that would happen with the Cubs given their organizational philosophy, but basically could be as soon as early/mid next season for Appel.

[jseward92]

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Appel will make it up first. He is going to move very fast. Early 2014 is likely, some even think he could pitch in the big leagues this fall! Unlikely that would happen with the Cubs given their organizational philosophy, but basically could be as soon as early/mid next season for Appel.

Yeah he has been dominate this year. But so has Gray. Very similar numbers thus far. Manaea has been a little lower with production with Stanek right there with him. Yeah if the Cubs take Appel I doubt he will make his debut this year. Depending on the spring he has next year I would say we could see him early but they would probably put an inning count on him.

[hjgilber]

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We needed this for our discussion earlier. Here is the comprehensive top prospects list. This is basically the best list you will get, it ranks them based on all the best top prospect publications.

Also, just to point out, it highlights my point about the large gap between Almora and Hawkins, and the much smaller gap between Buxton and Almora.

Top Prospects List

ETA: Cubs have 7 of the top 190. (White Sox have 2)

18. Javier Baez
30. Albert Almora
35. Jorge Soler
98. Arodys Vizcaino
129. Dan Vogelbach
155. Brett Jackson
165. Jeimer Candelario

71. Courtney Hawkins
127. Carlos Sanchez

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

I have a few guys created, just haven't finished them yet, just been sidetracked with other stuff. The problem is that whatever I create won't have faces.

I didn't notice OSFM v2 came out, I've just been using another roster version so I didn't feel the need to get the updated set. I noticed Almora was down to a 69, Soler still a 75. Lake didn't get the arm strength bump. Baez is still low as well at 67. Its strange seeing Lindor at 73 with Baez being a year older than he is. So the changes didn't really seem to get in, but I guess they are at what the OSFM guys think they should be at.

If you are using these rosters I'd go with what yanks posted earlier.

Baez 73
Soler 74
Almora is probably fine at 69

Lake's arm in the low 80s, going off of Knights tables for very good/elite

[npnovak911]

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I haven't seen anyone mention this, but Daniel Vogelbach throws right-handed. In the OSFM roster (I only checked v2) he throws left-handed, which isn't right. Wasn't sure where else to bring it up.

[Denzel Washington]

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Soler is going to be the cubs #1 prospect by the end of the year
Quote me on that

[hjgilber]

Soler is going to be the cubs #1 prospect by the end of the year
Quote me on that

Lol that's not a very bold prediction. It has at least a 50% chance of being true, if not higher. I also kind of expect that to happen. Not due to Baez struggles, just due to Soler being an absolute monster.

[Denzel Washington]

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Lol that's not a very bold prediction. It has at least a 50% chance of being true, if not higher. I also kind of expect that to happen. Not due to Baez struggles, just due to Soler being an absolute monster.

He's a tad bit underrated IMO
He's at least a better prospect than Almora for the time being