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  • dorismary
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    • Jan 2009
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    #16
    Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

    Off the bat I raised Hu pitch control to 3 as its for meatball pitches ONLY and I lowered hu Pitcher consistency to 6 as its really for control .

    I also lowered run speed to 5 as I also noticed on simple bobbles on sharp hits to infleiders pitchers and slow players were safe by a large margine at first after a quick recovery?
    This will also address the triple issue i talked about on simple gappers I even had brad penny tag up on a pop up behind 3b by tarps not deep and he scored with ease so this will also address tag up issues on shallow flies and its also why you might be seeing alot of guys thrown out 1b to 3b cause with the extra speed there more aggressive.
    Just my thoughts ?
    Im having a blast but i have to play many games for a better overall view .
    Thanks
    Last edited by dorismary; 04-27-2010, 06:19 AM.

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    • ParisB
      MVP
      • Jan 2010
      • 1699

      #17
      Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

      Control is not the meatball pitch this year, like it was last year. It's Consistency.

      I've been playing with Control at 2 for a while now, and seeing great results.

      Control does have a direct relationship with the CPU hitting sliders though (mainly Contact). It's like a confidence matchup, and the ability of your pitcher to overpower the hitter. If you lower Control, you HAVE to decrease their Contact and Timing (not sure about Veteran, but definitely on AS). By lowering Control, you see more balls, especially lowered tiered guys. I drew 7 walks the other night against a scrub starting pitcher, and average 4 walks per game (it's nice to see the occasional 4 pitch walk, or have the ability to get a deep at-bat after an 0-2 start and possibly draw a walk still). I've also been dishing out 3 walks per game. Normally if you only lower control and leave contact/timing at default, you will see more hits and 3 run games with 13 base hits with #8 guys smoking the ball opposite field.

      Check out my stats in CHD's slider thread, towards the end.
      Last edited by ParisB; 04-27-2010, 07:51 AM.

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      • Titus1108
        Banned
        • Mar 2010
        • 335

        #18
        Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

        Originally posted by dorismary
        Off the bat I raised Hu pitch control to 3 as its for meatball pitches ONLY and I lowered hu Pitcher consistency to 6 as its really for control .

        I also lowered run speed to 5 as I also noticed on simple bobbles on sharp hits to infleiders pitchers and slow players were safe by a large margine at first after a quick recovery?
        This will also address the triple issue i talked about on simple gappers I even had brad penny tag up on a pop up behind 3b by tarps not deep and he scored with ease so this will also address tag up issues on shallow flies and its also why you might be seeing alot of guys thrown out 1b to 3b cause with the extra speed there more aggressive.
        Just my thoughts ?
        Im having a blast but i have to play many games for a better overall view .
        Thanks


        Good idea on the BR speed, changed that to 5 now. I'm ok with Hum pitch control at 1, and consistency at 7(i believe its what i have it). I lowered cpu contact to 3, I think with that at 3 and hum control at 1 it should be a good mix. Regardless, I have great games. I lost 6-4 in 10 innings my last game against the Phillies in a well played game.

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        • dorismary
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          • Jan 2009
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          #19
          Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

          Originally posted by ParisB
          Control is not the meatball pitch this year, like it was last year. It's Consistency.

          I've been playing with Control at 2 for a while now, and seeing great results.

          Control does have a direct relationship with the CPU hitting sliders though (mainly Contact). It's like a confidence matchup, and the ability of your pitcher to overpower the hitter. If you lower Control, you HAVE to decrease their Contact and Timing (not sure about Veteran, but definitely on AS). By lowering Control, you see more balls, especially lowered tiered guys. I drew 7 walks the other night against a scrub starting pitcher, and average 4 walks per game (it's nice to see the occasional 4 pitch walk, or have the ability to get a deep at-bat after an 0-2 start and possibly draw a walk still). I've also been dishing out 3 walks per game. Normally if you only lower control and leave contact/timing at default, you will see more hits and 3 run games with 13 base hits with #8 guys smoking the ball opposite field.

          Check out my stats in CHD's slider thread, towards the end.
          FYI:
          Read Phoenixmsg sliders descriptions as I tested them all and hes correct on ALL of it .

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          • ParisB
            MVP
            • Jan 2010
            • 1699

            #20
            Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

            Originally posted by dorismary
            FYI:
            Read Phoenixmsg sliders descriptions as I tested them all and hes correct on ALL of it .
            he's straight up wrong on a couple of them

            there's a better slider thread and understanding of how they work in CHD's thread....

            there's a lot of misinformation floating around in a lot of the threads, people not fully understanding what they are seeing and the true relationships between sliders, and either letting the placebo affect take place or just rolling with them and passing the word around

            zeroing out solid hits and raising control/consistency is the biggest culprit
            Last edited by ParisB; 04-28-2010, 10:11 PM.

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            • dorismary
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              • Jan 2009
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              #21
              Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

              Been playing fifa WC but I will post more stats tonight Titus

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              • boardinmb
                Rookie
                • Dec 2004
                • 51

                #22
                Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

                Just got the game and will give it a try. Havent played this since MLB 08.

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                • Titus1108
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 335

                  #23
                  Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

                  Originally posted by boardinmb
                  Just got the game and will give it a try. Havent played this since MLB 08.

                  Cool, lemme know ur results, and enjoy!

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                  • rj9902
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 156

                    #24
                    Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

                    Originally posted by Titus1108
                    It's not reallly the power so much for me as it is just getting base hits. I played a couple with HUM contact at 3 and am liking what I see so far. Not a ton of hits, but a more realistic number thus far anyway.

                    As for HUM pitching control, I've had it set to 1 for so long now it would be hard for me to move it up to 3, but I do see what you're saying. It's definately not an easy task to hold a lead late in the game haha. BUT, its not the ai comeback of last year when they do come back on you. Everything feels like its earned with these sliders, both pitching and hitting.
                    hello mr. titus,

                    i'm trying your sliders and they do play well for the vet level, so kudos to you on that. i see that you've raised human contact to 3 from the original contact of 1. since i too have upped the contact to 3, there's no problems with me getting doubles or triples for that matter,but i'm still struggling to hit homers with my new york mets. there's so many times where i get ( or i think i get ) solid contact on a perfect swing, only to hit a deep drive for a long out or, even worse a pop up. it gets a little frustrating and i just want to know from your personal experience, have you gotten an increase of homers since you increased the user contact to 3?
                    once again, kudos on your set of sliders. they have given me great competitive games.

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                    • Titus1108
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                      • Mar 2010
                      • 335

                      #25
                      Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

                      Originally posted by rj9902
                      hello mr. titus,

                      i'm trying your sliders and they do play well for the vet level, so kudos to you on that. i see that you've raised human contact to 3 from the original contact of 1. since i too have upped the contact to 3, there's no problems with me getting doubles or triples for that matter,but i'm still struggling to hit homers with my new york mets. there's so many times where i get ( or i think i get ) solid contact on a perfect swing, only to hit a deep drive for a long out or, even worse a pop up. it gets a little frustrating and i just want to know from your personal experience, have you gotten an increase of homers since you increased the user contact to 3?
                      once again, kudos on your set of sliders. they have given me great competitive games.


                      Thanks rj, glad you're enjoying them! To answer ur question, unforunately i still don't hit many HRs with contact at 3 even. I have been thinking and considering lowering the wind slider down to 3 and see if that helps. I really feel like the wind plays a big factor in how far your ball travels. I always check it each game, and the ball def travels in the air on a high pop up if u pay close attention.

                      Lowering to 3 I think will help, will test it out and see for a while. But other than that, I dunno what else to do.

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                      • dorismary
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                        • Jan 2009
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                        #26
                        Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

                        Originally posted by Titus1108
                        Thanks rj, glad you're enjoying them! To answer ur question, unforunately i still don't hit many HRs with contact at 3 even. I have been thinking and considering lowering the wind slider down to 3 and see if that helps. I really feel like the wind plays a big factor in how far your ball travels. I always check it each game, and the ball def travels in the air on a high pop up if u pay close attention.


                        Lowering to 3 I think will help, will test it out and see for a while. But other than that, I dunno what else to do.
                        Try lowering the CPU pitcher Control to 4 and you should get a better contact from more meatball fat pitches .
                        Personally i havent had any HR issues yet ?

                        PS : just a thought this why I gave up on Veteran sliders this year as I USED aLLSTAR LEVEL most of THIS YEAR AS IT HAS MORE RANGE IN SLIDERS .?
                        As it might have been a better starting point

                        But I love these sliders for great fleiding , pitcher /batter battles are amazing and i cant get 11 hits every game !
                        Last edited by dorismary; 04-29-2010, 01:29 AM.

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                        • dorismary
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                          • Jan 2009
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                          #27
                          Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

                          ok heres why I love these sliders I hit a double 2 out with Ramirez Cubs with Lee on first down the RF line ,and with Lee running and he makes it home with no play and the 2b jogs it in .
                          But on other plays or with a slower guy there would have been a play or he would have held at 3b.
                          I mean most plays are different and have ton of variety depending on EVERYTHING , attributes ect .

                          Titus told you run speed at 5

                          Ps just had Dunn check swing down Lf line for a double cause the shift was on .
                          With this set a see many more animations and players even argue and get ejected at times and I have seen this with any other sliders , and no clipping or framerate issues from having Fld reaction set at 10.

                          I may test Fld Arm Strength at 4 also as Dunn tagged up on a med deep cf fly as Byrd has a above average arm and donkey is super slow ?.
                          Nothing goofy but still gonna check it any thoughts titus ?
                          Last edited by dorismary; 04-29-2010, 01:50 AM.

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                          • dorismary
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2009
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                            #28
                            Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

                            You should also lower Pitcher consistency if your having HR problems .
                            As Its a timing plus alot of Cpu corner nibble strikes but I love the risk reward popup or HR ?

                            ps arm strength is fine but we still gotta address high hu pitch count ?
                            Last edited by dorismary; 04-29-2010, 02:39 AM.

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                            • rj9902
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 156

                              #29
                              Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

                              Originally posted by dorismary
                              You should also lower Pitcher consistency if your having HR problems .
                              As Its a timing plus alot of Cpu corner nibble strikes but I love the risk reward popup or HR ?

                              ps arm strength is fine but we still gotta address high hu pitch count ?
                              thanks both for your help, titus and dorismary. i'm going to try to lower the cpu pitch control to 4 and see if it helps but i really dont want to mess things up by having huge hit totals.
                              guys, i just may fool around with user power at 10 and see if it doesn't throw things to out of whack cause the way these sliders play out now, i'm seeing realistic hit totals from the cpu and user and do not wish to foul them up.

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                              • Titus1108
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                                • Mar 2010
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                                #30
                                Re: Titus' Veteran Slider Set

                                Originally posted by dorismary
                                You should also lower Pitcher consistency if your having HR problems .
                                As Its a timing plus alot of Cpu corner nibble strikes but I love the risk reward popup or HR ?

                                ps arm strength is fine but we still gotta address high hu pitch count ?


                                I'm not going to change anything with my fielding sliders. As far as cpu pitcher consistency/control, that's debatable. I do have trouble hitting HRs still, BUT it's not like I never hit them either. It's only like 1 per 3 or 4 games which is extremely on the low end!

                                Since I sim games, and stuff though my total HR numbers for the season is tied for 13th in the league at 45. That's with a 25-15 record thus far as well. Still not sure what to do about the high hum pitch counts. The cpu seems to work deep counts almost every ab. It's not a big issue though, as I still have a CG every now and then with just a little over 100 pitcphes.

                                I gaurantee you though that these will be the hardest sliders out there to throw a no-hitter on perfect game on! The closest I have cam was a no hitter thru 5 or 6 innings, but no later than that.

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