TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

[MudCat64]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

^^^ I may have to try that as well.

The first game I played, I lost 6-1, but had 8 hits and they had 11.

The second game I won 4-2, and had 6 hits.

Overall, I am enjoying the slider set though.

[itbeme23]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Game 4:

LAD: 6 9 0
CIN: 4 7 0

Win: J. Lindblom (2.0 IP, 1 H, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 Ks)
Loss: N. Masset (0.2 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 0 BB, 0 Ks)
Save: J. Guerra

Extra Base Hits:
LAD: 5 - 2B, HR (3)
CIN: 4 - 2B (2), HR (2)

Strikeouts:
LAD: 11
CIN: 11

Strike Percentage:
LAD: 62% (92 Strikes, 57 Balls, 149 Total Pitches)
CIN: 70% (96 Strikes, 42 Balls, 138 Total Pitches)

Notes:

Lots of long balls in this one. Mike Leake owned me, as he fanned me at 10 times in 7 innings. I probably chased at least 3 or 4 bad pitches though. I got lucky after he left because I jumped all over Nick Masset, and was able to rally to take the lead in the top of the 8th.

I'm using Royale's suggestions that he posted above (Control 4, Consistency 3, Strike Freq. 3). As you can see, strike percentage is still high, especially for a 4th starter. I'm going to match up against the Reds' fifth starter (Homer Bailey), and see if it improves any. I actually was thinking about putting Control at 3, and Consistency at 4, but I want to at least play a full series with the current settings to see what the trend (albeit small) is. I also lowered human Control and Consistency to 4, to make pitching a little bit more difficult for me (I'm using Analog). It worked, as I only made it through five innings with Harang, and I walked three batters.

[BlingBling19]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

I think last year strike frequency was dropped to around 2 if I am not mistaken. Perhaps putting it lower to 2 and then dropping consistency lower as well so the CPU pitchers won't "hit the black" as often.

[itbeme23]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Game 5:

LAD: 2 6 0
CIN: 7 11 0

Win: H. Bailey (7.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 9 Ks)
Loss: C. Capuano (6.1 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 Ks)

Extra Base Hits:
LAD: 4 - 2B (3), HR
CIN: 6 - 2B (2), 3B, HR (3)

Strikeouts:
LAD: 11
CIN: 3

Strike Percentage:
LAD: 62% (81 Strikes, 49 Balls, 130 Total Pitches)
CIN: 66% (94 Strikes, 48 Balls, 142 Total Pitches)

Notes:

Another game full of extra base hits. I'm hoping it's just because I'm playing at Great American Ballpark and not because of the changes made to the pitching sliders. There wasn't that much of a change between facing Leake and Bailey. Both went seven innings, with the only difference being that Bailey struck me out 9 times, and Leake struck me out 10 times. In my opinion, I'm still not seeing that much of a variety in counts. My observations are still a whole lot of 0-2 and 1-2 counts. I will say that it's improved since making Royale's changes, but I still don't see a whole lot of hitters counts or full counts. Bailey's strike percentage was at 68%, and that lends itself to what I'm talking about. Is this really acceptable for a 5th starter? He had a strike percentage hovering around 70% for most of the game, and the only time he began throwing balls with any sort of consistency was when he was out of gas in the 7th, which was when I was able to work a walk. I'm almost dreading playing against their ace with these settings. We'll see how it works out.

[Helios12787]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

I'm seeing the same thing as far as CPU accuracy.

It seems like 8 times out of 10 they are throwing that first pitch strike on the black. The other two involve a semi-hittable pitch in the zone or a ball just missing.

I hardly ever see the cpu pitcher flat out miss. Almost every ball involves the "variable strike zone" with balls just barely being outside the zone.


This leads to me either swinging at a bunch of crap on the corners since I know that's all I will see, or just sit there watching as this guy paints the black all day.

I like where the User pitching is at (I use pulse). Gives a good variety of counts / pitches in and out of the zone. I do think the CPU is still making solid contact a bit too much. I haven't had many "normal" groundouts in the 4 or 5 games I've played. Everything seems to be hit very hard for the CPU.

[GWPump23]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Game 5:

LAD: 2 6 0
CIN: 7 11 0

Win: H. Bailey (7.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 9 Ks)
Loss: C. Capuano (6.1 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 Ks)

Extra Base Hits:
LAD: 4 - 2B (3), HR
CIN: 6 - 2B (2), 3B, HR (3)

Strikeouts:
LAD: 11
CIN: 3

Strike Percentage:
LAD: 62% (81 Strikes, 49 Balls, 130 Total Pitches)
CIN: 66% (94 Strikes, 48 Balls, 142 Total Pitches)

Notes:

Another game full of extra base hits. I'm hoping it's just because I'm playing at Great American Ballpark and not because of the changes made to the pitching sliders. There wasn't that much of a change between facing Leake and Bailey. Both went seven innings, with the only difference being that Bailey struck me out 9 times, and Leake struck me out 10 times. In my opinion, I'm still not seeing that much of a variety in counts. My observations are still a whole lot of 0-2 and 1-2 counts. I will say that it's improved since making Royale's changes, but I still don't see a whole lot of hitters counts or full counts. Bailey's strike percentage was at 68%, and that lends itself to what I'm talking about. Is this really acceptable for a 5th starter? He had a strike percentage hovering around 70% for most of the game, and the only time he began throwing balls with any sort of consistency was when he was out of gas in the 7th, which was when I was able to work a walk. I'm almost dreading playing against their ace with these settings. We'll see how it works out.

Are you noticing hr's from scrappy NON-HR hitting players?

-GW-

[itbeme23]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Game 6:

I will now dub this the FML game of the day.

LAD: 5 11 2
CIN: 6 12 0

Win: N. Masset
Loss: J. Guerra

Starters:
C. Kershaw - 6 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 4 Ks
J. Cueto - 7 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 11 Ks

Extra Base Hits:
LAD: 4 - 2B (3), 3B
CIN: 3 - 2B, HR (2)

Strikeouts:
LAD: 15
CIN: 9

Strike Percentage:
LAD: 62% (107 Strikes, 65 Balls, 172 Total Pitches)
CIN: 66% (114 Strikes, 58 Balls, 172 Total Pitches)

Notes:

The only thing that really matters are the two errors on my part which had nothing to do with the game per se, but everything to do with the fact that I flicked the right analog stick in the wrong direction which allowed not only the tying run in the 8th, but led to the winning runs in the 10th. I had taken the lead in the top of the 10th, 5-2. I brought in Guerra, who surrenders two singles to the first two batters. Rolen hits a taylor-made double play ball to Gordon, and my dumb *** flicks down on the right stick instead of throwing it to first. So, now everybody's safe and Jay Bruce is up....HE HITS A GRAND SLAM FOR THE WIN.

I struck out a ridiculous amount of times, but for some reason I'm not as pissed as I thought I would be. I swung at A TON of junk this game. I think it's just all of the built up frustration from the day. However, the silver lining is this: I set the CPU Pitch Sliders as follows:

Control: 3
Consistency: 3
Strike Freq.: 3

Much better count variety than I've seen in any other game that I've played up to this point. Lot's of even counts, pitchers AND hitters counts. Like I said, I swung at a ton of crap this game which is why the strikeout number is inflated, but it's encouraging to see that their overall strike percentage went DOWN with an ace on the mound.

I think I need a break. Been testing ALL DAY. Interested to see what TNK has cooking in the lab based on feedback.

[itbeme23]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Are you noticing hr's from scrappy NON-HR hitting players?

-GW-

Can't say that I am. Most of the HRs in this series were by guys that should be hitting homers: Votto, Bruce, Rolen, Kemp, Ethier, etc...

[Helios12787]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

I've hit 2 homeruns in my games I've played so far. One with Michael Bourn and the other with Uggla.

I've had 1 hit off of me and that was an opposite field shot by Jayson Werth on a hanging changeup out over the outer half of the plate

[GWPump23]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

I've hit 2 homeruns in my games I've played so far. One with Michael Bourn and the other with Uggla.

I've had 1 hit off of me and that was an opposite field shot by Jayson Werth on a hanging changeup out over the outer half of the plate

I'm struggling on which I like more...

Solid hits, fielder speed & reaction time @ 5, allowing Alcides Escobar types a shot @ HR's...

OR, turning them all to 4...

Keep the box scores coming!!!

-GW-

[itbeme23]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Game 7:

Another walk-off loss...

LAD: 3 8 0
SD: 4 13 0

Win: J. Thatcher
Loss: M. MacDougal

Starters:
C. Billingsley: 6.0 IP, 9 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 3 BB, 2 Ks, 99 Pitches, 66% Strikes
C. Richard: 6.1 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 0 BB, 8 Ks, 92 Pitches, 72% Strikes

Extra Base Hits:
LAD: 4 - 2B (3), 3B (1)
SD: 5 - 2B (5)

Strikeouts:
LAD: 12
SD: 6

Strike Percentage:
LAD: 68% (103 Strikes, 49 Balls, 152 Total Pitches)
SD: 71% (100 Strikes, 41 Balls, 141 Total Pitches)

Notes:

I'm lowering Strike Frequency down to 2 to see if that helps. I'm tired of this over 70% strikes crap. Even though it's improved slightly, I'm still seeing the pitches on the black way too much. Still not seeing enough count variety either, IMO. Didn't really get too many hitter's counts...just a lot of pounding the zone by the CPU pitcher.

[habslover10_GoYanks]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Just got the game and i used your sliders last year so i decided to go with yours again. I played 5 innings.

NYY 4 4 1
TOR 3 7 0 (Through 5 innings)

I jumped out to an early 3-0 lead with an A-Rod 3 run shot. Gave up 2 in the bottom half thanks to an Eric Thames homer. I really like this game so far.

Sabathia and Romero's Strike % was around 65-68 for both.

[itbeme23]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Game 8:

Yet another walk-off loss!!!

LAD: 2 5 0
SD: 3 9 0

Win: J. Spence
Loss: T. Coffee
Blown Save: J. Guerra

Starters:
T. Lilly - 7.0 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 Ks,
E. Volquez - 6.1 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 10 Ks

Extra Base Hits:
LAD: 1 - 2B
SD: 2 - 3B, HR

Strikeouts:
LAD: 14
SD: 7

Strike Percentage:
LAD: 71% (89 Strikes, 36 Balls, 125 Total Pitches)
SD: 65% (105 Strikes, 56 Balls, 161 Total Pitches, 50% First Pitch Strikes)

Notes:

I'm logging first pitch strikes now. I didn't expect it to be so low, but out of 38 total at bats, the CPU threw a first pitch strike 19 times = 50%. Interesting....because I apparently suck at life, I'm going to raise Human Contact by 1 click to see if that helps with my strikeouts.

[PrimetimeUTK]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Are you noticing hr's from scrappy NON-HR hitting players?

-GW-

I jacked one with Revere from the Twins with the X button yesterday. He had 0 HRs last season...just saying.

But overall, I'm absolutely loving the sliders. Any lack of hitting/runs and too many K's is all because of bad hitting decisions on my part. When I'm patient and not swinging at crazy pitches, then I'm fine. But when I start swinging at whatever, then I start striking out or just popping up or whatever.

I think this first prelim set from TNK will be good for me to start my franchise with. Just gotta wait for the OSFM roster. And gotta decide what team to use, lol.

[GWPump23]

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

I jacked one with Revere from the Twins with the X button yesterday. He had 0 HRs last season...just saying.

But overall, I'm absolutely loving the sliders. Any lack of hitting/runs and too many K's is all because of bad hitting decisions on my part. When I'm patient and not swinging at crazy pitches, then I'm fine. But when I start swinging at whatever, then I start striking out or just popping up or whatever.

I think this first prelim set from TNK will be good for me to start my franchise with. Just gotta wait for the OSFM roster. And gotta decide what team to use, lol.

Excellent! Came here to report hitting a HR with Alcides, THIS is better news!

-GW-