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  • KBLover
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    • Aug 2009
    • 12172

    #991
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

    Originally posted by COMMISSIONERHBK9
    hey guys quick question u guys use directional to aim to hit or u don't aim and just hit the ball which is timing. which one do you guys recommend?

    For me, it depends on the situation and the hitter.

    I usually try to follow the hitter's GB/FB tendency irl or based on his ratings (preferably irl, but if not I do power guys try to hit the ball in the air for extra bases, mid-power guys get no influence, light-power guys try to hit grounders) and for pull/opposite field, I follow the hitter's in-game spray chart.

    So for Piscotty, for example, I do no up/down influence and influence opposite field since he's that type of hitter in game. For Gallo, I'll influence up but that's it as his hit chart shows him as a spray hitter. For Chris Davis, up and pull (he's extreme pull on his hit chart) until two strikes, then just up. For Buxton, no influence at all - he's not a light-power type in my mind and he has no spray chart influence.

    So I don't really have a "I do this for most guys" pattern to it.
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    • bobloblah1980
      Rookie
      • Oct 2010
      • 459

      #992
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

      Originally posted by soonermagic75
      Any way to cut down on the # of complete games while simulating fellas?
      If you use WTNY sim set up for pitchers you will get less cp's and more realistic era's. .they are as follows.... for both hum and cpu. Set Starter stamina at 1-2 (1 to start and if era is too high go to 2) and reliever stamina at 5
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      • bobloblah1980
        Rookie
        • Oct 2010
        • 459

        #993
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

        Hey guys for those using analog or directional I suggest dropping down to veteran and playing with pitch speed and or contact to make, it tougher to hit. You get way less of those cheesey infield pop ups and stupid dribblers to the catcher. I am seeing way more hit variety as well. Just a suggestion
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        • Burgess
          MVP
          • Oct 2015
          • 1015

          #994
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

          My biggest issue with the game this year is cpu baserunning. I'm playing against the Astros. Gattis hits a double and I hit Rasmus. I'm thinking I'm in big trouble (and liking it). Next pitch, runners take off and Gattis is thrown out by a mile. Obviously hit and run, but with Gattis and no one out? Next pitch Rasmus takes off for 3rd and he is thrown out. Next pitch Gomez flies out and inning over. These kind of baserunning occur way too much. I would lose a lot more games if the cpu would quit running itself out of innings.
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          • Burgess
            MVP
            • Oct 2015
            • 1015

            #995
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

            Any body playing on AllStar with cpu power at 6? I'm on 5 and seem to be given up too few homers and runs.
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            • crains13
              MVP
              • Feb 2008
              • 1077

              #996
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

              Originally posted by Burgess
              Any body playing on AllStar with cpu power at 6? I'm on 5 and seem to be given up too few homers and runs.

              I'm not sure what happened to my game but something weird happened to my sliders. I had CPU hitting at 7,5, 5, 3, 5 for the longest time....about a month and a half in my franchise. I was getting really good results, then all of a sudden the CPU offense just poured on me. I don't know if I was just playing hot teams or what....but my most recent series against the Marlins I gave up 11 runs and 10 runs in the first two games of the series. And it would have been a lot worse had I not adjusted sliders during the games. They would have had 20 runs against me. I couldn't get anyone out...they just hit anything they wanted. I gave up 5 home runs in game 2. I don't understand why all of a sudden it seems like I switched to Legend. I changed up my sliders once again to decrease the CPU hitting to 6,5,4,2,5 and still gave up 6 runs in the third game. I'm to the point where I'm about to just stop playing, and I would really hate that since I'm 90 games in and only 4 games out of the WC. But not being able to find a middle ground is annoying. I've been using sliders in the show since about 2009 and have never had this much trouble. Sorry for the long rant, but I just thought it was really odd that this happened out of nowhere. Like I said, maybe the Marlins were hot, but damn.
              Last edited by crains13; 07-13-2016, 09:34 PM.
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              • Burgess
                MVP
                • Oct 2015
                • 1015

                #997
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

                Originally posted by crains13
                I'm not sure what happened to my game but something weird happened to my sliders. I had CPU hitting at 7,5, 5, 3, 5 for the longest time....about a month and a half in my franchise. I was getting really good results, then all of a sudden the CPU offense just poured on me. I don't know if I was just playing hot teams or what....but my most recent series against the Marlins I gave up 11 runs and 10 runs in the first two games of the series. And it would have been a lot worse had I not adjusted sliders during the games. They would have had 20 runs against me. I couldn't get anyone out...they just hit anything they wanted. I gave up 5 home runs in game 2. I don't understand why all of a sudden it seems like I switched to Legend. I changed up my sliders once again to decrease the CPU hitting to 6,5,4,2,5 and still gave up 6 runs in the third game. I'm to the point where I'm about to just stop playing, and I would really hate that since I'm 90 games in and only 4 games out of the WC. But not being able to find a middle ground is annoying. I've been using sliders in the show since about 2009 and have never had this much trouble. Sorry for the long rant, but I just thought it was really odd that this happened out of nowhere. Like I said, maybe the Marlins were hot, but damn.
                Sorry to hear that. And I am having the same frustration as you are experiencing. We have discussed sliders earlier and I have been using 7,5,5,3,5 and thought that was the answer. But I'm having the opposite problem as you - I'm not giving up very many runs and hardly any homers with my average Yankees rotation. I've won 6 in a row against the Astros and Tigers - 11-3, 2-0, 4-2, 5-1, 7-3 and 6-2. I have given up 6 doubles and 2 homers. As my previous post, I was asking if anyone is playing with power at 6. Maybe the good news for me is that it is nice hearing (sorry) that you gave up so many runs with these sliders. The good news for you is that I have gone on runs where I've given up few runs and homers. Maybe the answer is just sticking with 7, 5,5, 3, 5 and living with the results. But I share your frustration with sliders this year. Seems like I play hoping to lose and getting pounded. I start over and over again still hoping to find the results I desperately want. I love baseball and love The Show so don't want to quit playing. I have thought about going back to 15 as I seemed to have better results last year. But I want 16 to work for me. Hang in there
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                • crains13
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1077

                  #998
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

                  Originally posted by Burgess
                  Sorry to hear that. And I am having the same frustration as you are experiencing. We have discussed sliders earlier and I have been using 7,5,5,3,5 and thought that was the answer. But I'm having the opposite problem as you - I'm not giving up very many runs and hardly any homers with my average Yankees rotation. I've won 6 in a row against the Astros and Tigers - 11-3, 2-0, 4-2, 5-1, 7-3 and 6-2. I have given up 6 doubles and 2 homers. As my previous post, I was asking if anyone is playing with power at 6. Maybe the good news for me is that it is nice hearing (sorry) that you gave up so many runs with these sliders. The good news for you is that I have gone on runs where I've given up few runs and homers. Maybe the answer is just sticking with 7, 5,5, 3, 5 and living with the results. But I share your frustration with sliders this year. Seems like I play hoping to lose and getting pounded. I start over and over again still hoping to find the results I desperately want. I love baseball and love The Show so don't want to quit playing. I have thought about going back to 15 as I seemed to have better results last year. But I want 16 to work for me. Hang in there
                  It's so strange man. I mean I am pitching with the Reds, however I was in the top 5 for lowest ERA through June, until now. I've lost 5 straight and haven't given up less than 6 runs through those 5.

                  But instead of raising power to 6, have you thought about lowering your pitching sliders. Maybe lower control by a click. Idk what you have them set on but that should definitely help the CPU offense.

                  How far are you into your franchise?
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                  • JoshC1977
                    All Star
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 11564

                    #999
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

                    Originally posted by crains13
                    I'm not sure what happened to my game but something weird happened to my sliders. I had CPU hitting at 7,5, 5, 3, 5 for the longest time....about a month and a half in my franchise. I was getting really good results, then all of a sudden the CPU offense just poured on me. I don't know if I was just playing hot teams or what....but my most recent series against the Marlins I gave up 11 runs and 10 runs in the first two games of the series. And it would have been a lot worse had I not adjusted sliders during the games. They would have had 20 runs against me. I couldn't get anyone out...they just hit anything they wanted. I gave up 5 home runs in game 2. I don't understand why all of a sudden it seems like I switched to Legend. I changed up my sliders once again to decrease the CPU hitting to 6,5,4,2,5 and still gave up 6 runs in the third game. I'm to the point where I'm about to just stop playing, and I would really hate that since I'm 90 games in and only 4 games out of the WC. But not being able to find a middle ground is annoying. I've been using sliders in the show since about 2009 and have never had this much trouble. Sorry for the long rant, but I just thought it was really odd that this happened out of nowhere. Like I said, maybe the Marlins were hot, but damn.
                    Tell that to the real life Red Sox, who lost a game 21-2 to the Angels on July 2nd or the Reds, who lost 16-0 to the Cubs on April 21.

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                    • Burgess
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 1015

                      #1000
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

                      Originally posted by crains13
                      It's so strange man. I mean I am pitching with the Reds, however I was in the top 5 for lowest ERA through June, until now. I've lost 5 straight and haven't given up less than 6 runs through those 5.

                      But instead of raising power to 6, have you thought about lowering your pitching sliders. Maybe lower control by a click. Idk what you have them set on but that should definitely help the CPU offense.

                      How far are you into your franchise?
                      Both of my human pitching sliders are at 3. I am giving up a decent amount of walks, but maybe strikeout out a few too many. I have struck out up to 12 in s game but I assumed it was teams like the Astros do strike out a lot.

                      I am embarrassed to say this as I have had the game since May. But whenever I make a change to a slider or am not getting the results I want, I start over. Therefore I have never got passed the 3rd series of the season. Yes, it is a sickness and stupidity.
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                      • crains13
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1077

                        #1001
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

                        Originally posted by Burgess
                        Both of my human pitching sliders are at 3. I am giving up a decent amount of walks, but maybe strikeout out a few too many. I have struck out up to 12 in s game but I assumed it was teams like the Astros do strike out a lot.

                        I am embarrassed to say this as I have had the game since May. But whenever I make a change to a slider or am not getting the results I want, I start over. Therefore I have never got passed the 3rd series of the season. Yes, it is a sickness and stupidity.
                        Set control at 2 and consistency at 0 and see how that plays for you. That's what I've had mine on since last year. This season I'm not walking as many as I would like (ranked 2nd in walks allowed)... but my strikeout numbers are really good. I ranked in the top 7. And I know what ya mean about the stats. I just realized I only have 12 more doubles than I do home runs and it really bothers me but I'm still trucking through the season. Hell I'm hitting .227 but I'm still having a lot of fun. I'm only 2 games below .500 and I'm about to make some trades before the deadline. The stats will eventually even out though. However, tinkering with sliders all the time sucks the fun out of it. Hopefully we can get them figured out!
                        Last edited by crains13; 07-13-2016, 10:47 PM.
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                        • Burgess
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 1015

                          #1002
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

                          Originally posted by crains13
                          Set control at 2 and consistency at 0 and see how that plays for you. That's what I've had mine on since last year. This season I'm not walking as many as I would like (ranked 2nd in walks allowed)... but my strikeout numbers are really good. I ranked in the top 7. And I know what ya mean about the stats. I just realized I only have 12 more doubles than I do home runs and it really bothers me but I'm still trucking through the season. Hell I'm hitting .227 but I'm still having a lot of fun. I'm only 2 games below .500 and I'm about to make some trades before the deadline. The stats will eventually even out though. However, tinkering with sliders all the time sucks the fun out of it. Hopefully we can get them figured out!
                          Just deleted my franchise. Played the 1st game against the Astros with 7,6,5,3,5 I fast forwarded my at bats. I won 3-2. I gave up 10 hits - 9 singles and a 2-run homer to Gattis. I struck out 7 and didn't walk a batter.

                          I need to get this figured out. I'm going to go back to 7,5,5,3,5 and move human pitching sliders to 0 and 2 as you recommend. But you are right - these issues with sliders sure does suck the fun out of it. I want to get past the first 10 games and be confident that I have the right slider set to allow me to finally enjoy the game. My wife always reminds me that it is just a game and that I am supposed to play the game for fun and relaxation. Hopefully that will be the case. Thanks for the advice for pitching sliders. I'll let you know the results after I play the first series agsinst the Astros.
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                          • KBLover
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 12172

                            #1003
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

                            What are your guy's Zone%?

                            I.e. 1 - ((Balls + Chased) / Total Pitches)

                            MLB is about 45% (0.45 is what that would be in the above formula) so less than half the pitches in MLB are in the zone. If you're at that or lower and not issuing walks, it might just be a sequencing thing (which, at least irl, tends to be unreliable in consistency).
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                            • crains13
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1077

                              #1004
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

                              Originally posted by Burgess
                              Just deleted my franchise. Played the 1st game against the Astros with 7,6,5,3,5 I fast forwarded my at bats. I won 3-2. I gave up 10 hits - 9 singles and a 2-run homer to Gattis. I struck out 7 and didn't walk a batter.

                              I need to get this figured out. I'm going to go back to 7,5,5,3,5 and move human pitching sliders to 0 and 2 as you recommend. But you are right - these issues with sliders sure does suck the fun out of it. I want to get past the first 10 games and be confident that I have the right slider set to allow me to finally enjoy the game. My wife always reminds me that it is just a game and that I am supposed to play the game for fun and relaxation. Hopefully that will be the case. Thanks for the advice for pitching sliders. I'll let you know the results after I play the first series agsinst the Astros.
                              I went back with the original sliders we'd been using after the AS break (7,6,5,3,5). So far so good against a horrible Brewers offense (without Braun). I won game one 10-1, but I allowed 10 hits and one solo shot. In game 2 I won 7-3 and gave up a 2 run home run. I'm not sure what the heck happened before the AS break, so for now I'm sticking with those. I play another weak offense in Atlanta next.

                              Originally posted by KBLover
                              What are your guy's Zone%?

                              I.e. 1 - ((Balls + Chased) / Total Pitches)

                              MLB is about 45% (0.45 is what that would be in the above formula) so less than half the pitches in MLB are in the zone. If you're at that or lower and not issuing walks, it might just be a sequencing thing (which, at least irl, tends to be unreliable in consistency).
                              I haven't really been paying attention to my zone% much. However I do give up an ok amount of walks. There's only been like 2 or 3 games where I've walked zero and I've had a few games where I've walked as many as 7. Through 92 games I'm walking 2.6 batters.
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                              • Burgess
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 1015

                                #1005
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 16 Timed/Classic Simulation Sliders

                                Originally posted by crains13
                                I went back with the original sliders we'd been using after the AS break (7,6,5,3,5). So far so good against a horrible Brewers offense (without Braun). I won game one 10-1, but I allowed 10 hits and one solo shot. In game 2 I won 7-3 and gave up a 2 run home run. I'm not sure what the heck happened before the AS break, so for now I'm sticking with those. I play another weak offense in Atlanta next.



                                I haven't really been paying attention to my zone% much. However I do give up an ok amount of walks. There's only been like 2 or 3 games where I've walked zero and I've had a few games where I've walked as many as 7. Through 92 games I'm walking 2.6 batters.
                                So power at 6?
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