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  • tigerfanwch
    Rookie
    • May 2016
    • 78

    #1636
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

    Great thanks


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    • Mephiskapheles
      Rookie
      • May 2013
      • 151

      #1637
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

      With the new patch, does hook/stamina need to be looked at?


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      • JoshC1977
        All Star
        • Dec 2010
        • 11564

        #1638
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

        Originally posted by Mephiskapheles
        With the new patch, does hook/stamina need to be looked at?


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        I'm guessing both will be fine where they are...the patch changes will probably just enhance what we already had.
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        • kpeercy
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 1039

          #1639
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

          After the patch, it appears that the PCI as far as the swing analysis never moves for the human player on directional. Was it this way before? No matter what, the swing analysis shows the sweet spot right in the center of the zone.

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          • BleacherCreature
            MVP
            • Apr 2007
            • 3160

            #1640
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

            Originally posted by The Chef
            Had a crazy game last night before heading off to bed. I was hosting Minnesota and after sweeping the MLB worst Tampa Bay Rays I assumed I'd have an easier series with Minnesota as well and the first game at least proved otherwise. I had Drew Smyly on the bump and Minnesota tallied 19 hits total off me that game yet only scored 3 runs to win the game 3-2. They tried a suicide squeeze 4 times, failing 3 of those 4 times, and ultimately blew opportunities to score if they had just swung away. In fact, 1 inning they tried it twice and failed twice. The one and only time it worked was in the top of the 9th when it was 2-2, so I guess in the end it helped them win but had they not failed 3 times prior they probably wouldn't have needed that run in the 9th anyways. Furthermore, let's be real, if you're able to get 19 hits in a game you probably don't need to throw outs away desperately trying to score lol, clearly my pitching wasn't doing it's job.


            This definitely happens way more often than it should. If I remember correctly it's been like this for a few years.


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            • bcruise
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2004
              • 23274

              #1641
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

              Originally posted by kpeercy
              After the patch, it appears that the PCI as far as the swing analysis never moves for the human player on directional. Was it this way before? No matter what, the swing analysis shows the sweet spot right in the center of the zone.
              That's how it always is on directional - it's not new with this patch. It does move based on a hitter's ratings (and luck), but it does so under-the-hood, so to speak. You can't see when it's being placed somewhere other than the middle, but you'll know when it's aiming somewhere else by the quality of contact you make. If you hit a line drive somewhere by swinging at a ball on the edge of the strike zone (or off of it), odds are the PCI was not in the middle at that time.

              There's a more detailed way of seeing how this works, but I don't want to take this any more off topic.

              You might try turning swing/pitch info off like Armor does if it bothers you seeing it in the middle all the time. You'll still get the radar gun in the upper left score box, and generally you can tell whether you were early or late on a ball by which way it goes on contact (there are exceptions, though).

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              • caja 117
                Rookie
                • Jun 2013
                • 23

                #1642
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                I have manager hook at 4 which was actually working perfect and so id everything with the slider here is my numbers in the last 6 games:

                G1 : 4-3 5.1 ip no HR 3r around 90 pitches before manager hook

                2-1. 6.2 ip no Hr 2 er 100 pitches before manager hook

                6-2 6 ip 2 er 1 Hr 80 pitches ( taken out because of pinch hitter in his spot)

                1-11 6 ip 1 er 90+ pitches

                2-3 6ip 1er 90+ pitches

                8-4 5 ip 4 er 1 hr 80+ pitches.

                I have to say that im very pleased with the manager hook so i guess i will probrably bump it to 5 to compemsate for the patch, and Im loving the Homeruns hit from me and ghe AI , also the AI aproach to pitching end up in a realistic pitch count based on The amount of innings pitched, every game I played the AI pitch count is usually 70+ pitches after 5 innings.




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                • The Chef
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 13684

                  #1643
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                  Originally posted by BleacherCreature
                  This definitely happens way more often than it should. If I remember correctly it's been like this for a few years.


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                  I was totally unaware this was an issue, first time I've seen it in the 50 or so games I've played this year. So basically the CPU will attempt suicide squeezes at an alarming rate then in other words?
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                  • BleacherCreature
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 3160

                    #1644
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                    Originally posted by The Chef
                    I was totally unaware this was an issue, first time I've seen it in the 50 or so games I've played this year. So basically the CPU will attempt suicide squeezes at an alarming rate then in other words?

                    Wouldn't say an alarming rate but it does happen more than it should when you consider how many times you actually see it happen in an MLB game.


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                    • caja 117
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 23

                      #1645
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                      Yeah, I say that is weird when it doesnt happens in a situation where is the 9th, you are leading or is tied and there is runer at 3rd, I basically do pitch out on my first pitch under that situation, is basically Automatic out.


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                      • JayD
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 5457

                        #1646
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                        CPU still doesn't set their relievers to ready & waiting. Although, I think they changed it to where relievers don't tire while warming up. Just saw the CPU have 2 relievers warming up for 4 innings without tiring.

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                        • bobloblah1980
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 459

                          #1647
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                          Originally posted by BleacherCreature
                          Wouldn't say an alarming rate but it does happen more than it should when you consider how many times you actually see it happen in an MLB game.


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                          Yup. Just happened to me yesterday. I knew it was coming too and I forgot to do a pitch-out and I lost

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                          • dubplate
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 3778

                            #1648
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                            I think it's time to call it quits with directional hitting aka high pop-up hitting. Talk about frustrating.

                            Do you have to use a type of influence every time? If not then I don't know what the matter is but I'm about fed up.

                            What is everyone else having good results with?

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                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21786

                              #1649
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                              Originally posted by dubplate
                              I think it's time to call it quits with directional hitting aka high pop-up hitting. Talk about frustrating.

                              Do you have to use a type of influence every time? If not then I don't know what the matter is but I'm about fed up.

                              What is everyone else having good results with?

                              Sorry you can’t hit on directional.

                              And no you do not have to use directional feature.....at all quite frankly. But I do use it in situational hitting. I would say I use the directional feature 60-70% of the time overall.

                              I venture to say over 90% of the people who frequent this thread and use this set are timed/directional hitters.
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                              • JayD
                                All Star
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 5457

                                #1650
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                                Originally posted by dubplate
                                I think it's time to call it quits with directional hitting aka high pop-up hitting. Talk about frustrating.

                                Do you have to use a type of influence every time? If not then I don't know what the matter is but I'm about fed up.

                                What is everyone else having good results with?
                                Not sure what you're talking about? Directional hitting is perfectly fine. I think I'm even seeing more hit variety post patch.

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