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  • The Chef
    Moderator
    • Sep 2003
    • 13684

    #1756
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

    Good Lord my bullpen needs help, ratings wise they aren't terrible but they consistently blow leads whenever possible. It wasn't this bad until I went to HOF pitching and now it's like rolling one dumpster fire after another out there....

    Yovani Gallardo - 58.0 IP, 5.74 ERA, 1.45 WHIP, 37 K's, 17 BB's
    Steve Cishek - 26.2 IP, 5.40 ERA, 1.65 WHIP, 18 K's, 13 BB's
    Evan Scribner - 34.1 IP, 3.15 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, 24 K's, 8 BB's
    Marc Rzepczynski - 29.2 IP, 3.34 ERA, 1.21 WHIP, 24 K's, 10 BB's
    Ryan Cook - 24.1 IP, 2.59 ERA, 1.03 WHIP, 27 K's, 7 BB's
    Nick Vincent - 28.1 IP, 5.40 ERA, 1.55 WHIP, 24 K's, 10 BB's
    Edwin Diaz - 21.0 IP, 2.14 ERA, 0.67 WHIP, 27 K's, 4 BB's

    I've got a few guys who are doing well but Gallardo, Cishek and Vincent are complete trash whenever they get a chance to pitch. Last game was a perfect example, I'm down 3-2 at Texas, Smyly is on fumes so I bring in Vincent in the 6th who proceeds to give up 3 runs to make it 6-2. I try a comeback with 2 outs in the 9th scoring 2 off a Dyson triple but lose 6-4. I'm now 7-8 for the month of June after going 14-14 in the month of May, things are not looking good at all. My overall record sits at 38-31 but I'm 4 games back of the Angels who have been red hot this month going 12-3. I can already see my team falling apart, the bullpen has been miserable most nights and I'm having to start 2 rookies in the rotation, such a recipe for disaster lol.

    On another note I did have Cleveland offer me Boone Logan for a minor league SP with C potential. I passed on it for now as it seems a little pointless for Cleveland to trade their second best reliever while they are 38-29 and leading their division by 5 games over Minnesota. I am eyeing Seigrest in St Louis though, with one year left on his deal he would be a rental, but St Louis is sitting at 29-38, 12 games back in the division currently. I figure if I can get Seigrest maybe a bullpen of Seigrest, Cook, Rzepczynski, Scribner and Vincent I might be able to make it work while hoping Vincent works out his **** somehow. Cishek is as good as gone, I can't pitch with him and his funky delivery screws me up everytime.

    Been fun, albeit disappointing, struggle as of late and I just hope my team can wake up out of their funk before it's too late and the playoffs are out of reach.

    EDIT - If I can find a silver lining in the dark cloud that is the month of June I'll have Robinson Cano back anyday now and Nelson Cruz within a week. That should really help my offense especially if Cruz comes back and picks up right where he left off as he was the best player in the league before going down with an injury (45/120, .375-.449-.750, 13 HR's, 39 RBI's, 26 Runs, 6 2B's). To put that into perspective Cruz is 12th in the AL in RBI's and 15th in HR's and he missed 2 months of the season.
    Last edited by The Chef; 05-27-2017, 09:45 PM.
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    • bradypunch
      Rookie
      • Jan 2016
      • 68

      #1757
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

      I'm 11 and 5 and nearly everyone Lindor kipnis Santana are 1/4 energy and Ramirez is injured for couple days and Brantley for a couple months. Not sure what to do do i bring up minor league batter to give them rest? I'm basically just hating franchise all of a sudden as everyone is dead in energy and two great players injured Ramirez not really a concern but he was low in energy that's y. I moved chisenhall over to 3rd in the meantime but in reality idk if Lindor kipnis etc very get a day off?

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      • forme95
        MVP
        • Nov 2013
        • 3118

        #1758
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

        Originally posted by bradypunch
        I'm 11 and 5 and nearly everyone Lindor kipnis Santana are 1/4 energy and Ramirez is injured for couple days and Brantley for a couple months. Not sure what to do do i bring up minor league batter to give them rest? I'm basically just hating franchise all of a sudden as everyone is dead in energy and two great players injured Ramirez not really a concern but he was low in energy that's y. I moved chisenhall over to 3rd in the meantime but in reality idk if Lindor kipnis etc very get a day off?
        Indians have a decent utility back ups. I have Ramirez out for the season in mine and brought up Diaz and Gonzalez. Gonzalez went on the DL and brought Martinez back. I corrected Yandy as he isn't a infielder. He's a 3B outfielder. Only other position he played was 2nd 9 games in his career. However if you have him as default still, I believe he can play every infield position. Stements and Rodriguez are utility infielder that you could promote to ride the bench and swap in and out for days off. Santana can play 3rd as can EE, although EE isn't as good arm wise at 3rd.

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        Last edited by forme95; 05-27-2017, 10:28 PM.
        Really wish sports games played to ratings!
        Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
        CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
        MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
        Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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        • bradypunch
          Rookie
          • Jan 2016
          • 68

          #1759
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

          I'm using a week ago live roster so idk I don't have any of those guys for some reason they're all like fake? So do I just bring up minor guys? I'm kinda lost

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          • forme95
            MVP
            • Nov 2013
            • 3118

            #1760
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

            Originally posted by bradypunch
            I'm using a week ago live roster so idk I don't have any of those guys for some reason they're all like fake? So do I just bring up minor guys? I'm kinda lost
            Oh, I use the OSFM roster. Yes, to answer your question. Look at other infielders and see what they have for secondary positions. See if you can find some bench warmers that can fill in when you need to rest guys. Also remember you have DH. I will at times DH Kipnis or Lindor a game or two. Yan can cover first and Perez can catch. The option is only used once a season, so you can send a guy down or bring a guy up as much as you need. It only uses 1 option. Just make sure who ever you bring up or send down isn't on his 3rd option.

            If you need shoot me a pm. I don't want to clutter Armors thread with non OP talks.

            Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk
            Really wish sports games played to ratings!
            Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
            CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
            MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
            Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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            • bradypunch
              Rookie
              • Jan 2016
              • 68

              #1761
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

              Was up 9 3 in 7th and cpu RP walked 3 batters with bases loaded? I'm number 1 in league with BB

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              • tyler28
                MVP
                • Sep 2012
                • 1719

                #1762
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                Originally posted by kpeercy
                The way you're playing, the bat never leaves the center of the zone. If you want to play zone and not fool with moving the PCI, I suggest turning Guess Pitch to Quadrant and guessing location. That way you're at least moving the bat around.
                Ya i think ive been playing on the wrong setting. After reading some forums, directional is what im looking for. Im used to playing on the timed option from previous years. If im understanding it right directional hitting is based off of that.

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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21793

                  #1763
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                  Version 5.0 post patch 1.07 is now official on the OP


                  The following has been changed:


                  Pitching is now officially on HOF level for default values (if you pitch on AS no changes and those values are notated in () for any differences to HOF pitching values.


                  We moved CPU Strike Frequency to 4 (from 3)

                  Errors all at 7 except infield throwing errors now at 10

                  Injuries are now at 9 for played games and 6 for simulated games.

                  Changes are also the same for quick manage except injuries at 6 for QM games (and straight simulated games on calendar screen).


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                  • The Chef
                    Moderator
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 13684

                    #1764
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                    Version 5.0 post patch 1.07 is now official on the OP


                    The following has been changed:


                    Pitching is now officially on HOF level for default values (if you pitch on AS no changes and those values are notated in () for any differences to HOF pitching values.


                    We moved CPU Strike Frequency to 4 (from 3)

                    Errors all at 7 except infield throwing errors now at 10

                    Injuries are now at 9 for played games and 6 for simulated games.

                    Changes are also the same for quick manage except injuries at 6 for QM games (and straight simulated games on calendar screen).


                    Enjoy!!!!!
                    Slightly confused, you say it's HOF level for default values but I don't see it at default as control and consistency is still at 4 for the user. I noticed you moved CPU RP Stamina up to 5 but left it at 3 for the user, is this correct or an oversight?

                    I don't think I'll be touching the injury slider myself, my team has already suffered enough this season and we aren't even to July yet lol.

                    Just fired up a game that I'm about to stream for the hell of it so will make the changes in game and see how it goes. I'm only in the bottom of the first so should be a solid look into how it plays.
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                    • The Chef
                      Moderator
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 13684

                      #1765
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                      Perfect example of why wild pitches drive me nuts. Texas gets a 1 out double from Profar, no big deal. I aim a slurve middle away and it's a wild pitch in the dirt allowing him to advance. Now with 1 out and a runner on third they hit a sac fly to score, next guy walks then I get Beltre out to end the inning. Thing is, that wild pitch directly led to another cheap *** run by the CPU that shouldn't have happened and I wasn't even aiming low with the pitch or anywhere near low. It makes it damn near impossible at times to avoid giving up runs when my guys literally find ways to throw wild pitches, and to make matters worse then my catcher tosses it down to third with no shot of even getting the runner as he apparently can't gun it down there on wild pitches like he can when someone is trying to steal. They really need to patch this, it's tough enough to pitch on HOF at times without the extra hassle of wild pitches giving the CPU runs they don't deserve.
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                      • JG1986
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 513

                        #1766
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                        Curious about the strike percentage. That was the one thing I thought we had down pretty good. At least in my games, the strike percentages always seem to be between 61% and 67%. I'll probably leave that alone.

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                        • The Chef
                          Moderator
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 13684

                          #1767
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                          Originally posted by JG1986
                          Curious about the strike percentage. That was the one thing I thought we had down pretty good. At least in my games, the strike percentages always seem to be between 61% and 67%. I'll probably leave that alone.
                          I have it at 5-5-5 for CPU and they are the same as you described with some lower depending on skill and other factors. In the game I'm playing now Tyson Ross is on the mound for Texas and he threw 78 pitches before being yanked after giving up a solo HR in the 6th and out of those 78 pitches he threw 45 for strikes which equals out to a 57.7% strikes thrown percentage.
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                          • JoshC1977
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 11564

                            #1768
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                            Originally posted by The Chef
                            Slightly confused, you say it's HOF level for default values but I don't see it at default as control and consistency is still at 4 for the user.
                            He means HOF pitching is now considered the default level for this set...
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                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21793

                              #1769
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                              Originally posted by JG1986
                              Curious about the strike percentage. That was the one thing I thought we had down pretty good. At least in my games, the strike percentages always seem to be between 61% and 67%. I'll probably leave that alone.


                              I found hitting to be more challenging with strike frequency at 4.

                              CPU pitches smarter.

                              I don't stress about strike percentage. I rather have a tougher more intelligent CPU pitcher and just one click up did that. Strike percentages still look realistic.




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                              • JoshC1977
                                All Star
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 11564

                                #1770
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                                I found hitting to be more challenging with strike frequency at 4.

                                CPU pitches smarter.

                                I don't stress about strike percentage. I rather have a tougher more intelligent CPU pitcher and just one click up did that. Strike percentages still look realistic.
                                And for what it's worth, I think strike frequency has far less to do with overall strike percentage than one might think. I've messed with default strike frequency and still have seen very realistic strike percentages...it's very much a matter of your own personal discipline as a hitter.
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