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  • mkharsh33
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    • Nov 2006
    • 12777

    #1951
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

    Kinda a side question...

    but how much of this game is about ratings VERSUS about how much is in the progression system???

    I ask because: would it be near impossible to create a universal slider system (no matter who the creator is) if the game leans more heavily upon the in-game dynamic ratings system than it does with regard to just fixed player ratings?

    It's almost become with this game: you better get off to a hot start with YOUR pitcher - and do not let the opposing pitcher get off to a hot start - or else you're really gonna struggle...

    That shouldn't be the case, but sometimes it feels like the cpu is overpowering and already has determined the outcome to the game. It feels a lot like the issue we've discussed in the EA NHL game "comeback AI" where you almost feel powerless agains the CPU no matter what you do...
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    • VincesVictims
      Pro
      • Aug 2014
      • 773

      #1952
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

      Originally posted by mkharsh33
      Kinda a side question...

      but how much of this game is about ratings VERSUS about how much is in the progression system???

      I ask because: would it be near impossible to create a universal slider system (no matter who the creator is) if the game leans more heavily upon the in-game dynamic ratings system than it does with regard to just fixed player ratings?

      It's almost become with this game: you better get off to a hot start with YOUR pitcher - and do not let the opposing pitcher get off to a hot start - or else you're really gonna struggle...

      That shouldn't be the case, but sometimes it feels like the cpu is overpowering and already has determined the outcome to the game. It feels a lot like the issue we've discussed in the EA NHL game "comeback AI" where you almost feel powerless agains the CPU no matter what you do...
      There has been plenty of times for me that I have been shut out the first 2 time through the lineup and than the 3rd time around I crush the starting pitcher. I'm not seeing the issue you're having.

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      • KBLover
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        • Aug 2009
        • 12172

        #1953
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

        Originally posted by VincesVictims
        There has been plenty of times for me that I have been shut out the first 2 time through the lineup and than the 3rd time around I crush the starting pitcher. I'm not seeing the issue you're having.
        Had a similar game last night.

        Losing 2-1, got just 1 hit in 7 innings.

        Then I get 4 runs on three hits in bot. 8th and end up winning 5-3.

        Just keep fighting, grinding, and if they stop you, tip the cap and move on to the next game.

        Originally posted by Burgess
        Does everyone use the “warm-up pitcher” option for their relievers? I’ve tried both and don’t really see a difference in my bullpen’s performance. Currently I have it turned off and put my relievers as “ready and waiting” when they are completely ready (full circle)
        I once read the CPU doesn't so I don't.

        I don't know why it's not simulated for the CPU, but if that's true the CPU pitchers don't warm up, then I'll continue to not use it.
        Last edited by KBLover; 07-12-2018, 06:58 PM.
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        • Burgess
          MVP
          • Oct 2015
          • 1015

          #1954
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

          Originally posted by BleacherCreature
          I fired my hitting coach 3 games ago after losing 8 of 10 and not hitting at all, especially with runners in scoring position. I’ve won all 3 since and my hitting has improved, especially in run scoring situations.


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          This is interesting. I play as the Yankees as well. I read this just after I played my first game of the season. I won that game 6-2 on 9 hits including 3 homers. I checked my coaches and my hitting coach was C rated with -3 in power. I immediately fired him and hired a A rated coach that was +3 in power. Signed him to a 3-year deal for $1.3 million. Just won my 2nd game over the Jays 11-0 on 13 hits including 5 homers. Hmmm...
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          • billyo
            Rookie
            • Mar 2007
            • 206

            #1955
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

            Playing with these sliders. I was in a game as the Braves against SD. 2-0 Braves going into the 7th. The game went into the Twilight Zone. SD hit the ball everywhere and scored 7 times to take a 7-2 lead. I was throwing 'out of the zone and they were still killing it. Bottom of the 7th and the Braves scored 8 runs and regained the lead at 10-7. I have played the game for years and have never had an inning like this....15 runs. Braves eventually won 10-9 as SD had the bases loaded in the 9th but could not tie. I will remember this game a long time.

            Anyone ever have an inning like this?

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            • Burgess
              MVP
              • Oct 2015
              • 1015

              #1956
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

              You guys that play as the Yankees - did you fire your D rated manager and/or your C rated hitting coach before the season started? If not how many games did you play before firing them? I wonder what the impact, if any, if I fired them both in spring training
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              • Yankees82
                Rookie
                • May 2018
                • 100

                #1957
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                So I am playing the All Star game as the American League and I get off to a 8-0 lead after 5 innings. The National League gets single runs in the 7th and 8th to make it 8-2. I have Kimbrel and Chapman to close the game out in the 9th inning. My plan was to get both of them a chance to pitch so I was going to put in Kimbrel for the first batter and then bring in Chapman.

                Carlos Santana started with a fly ball on the warning track and the OF dropped it for an error. Bryant doubled and scored the run. Herrera grounded out so I brought in Chapman with a runner at 3rd 1 out with a 8-3 lead. Cervelli has a 2 RBI single to make it 8-5. Baez had an RBI double to make it 8-6. McCuthen flies out to the warning track for the 2nd out. Yelich walked to make it 1st and 2nd and Albies hit a game winning 3 run homer to complete the comeback.

                I am so glad this was not a regular season game but it was frustrating. I just had the feeling and knew they would come back after they made it 8-5. I don’t believe in any come back code but that was just crazy.

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                • BleacherCreature
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 3160

                  #1958
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                  Originally posted by Burgess
                  You guys that play as the Yankees - did you fire your D rated manager and/or your C rated hitting coach before the season started? If not how many games did you play before firing them? I wonder what the impact, if any, if I fired them both in spring training


                  I did not fire my manager (yet) but I’m almost at the end of May and fired my hitting coach. My hitting in clutch situations has greatly improved since.


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                  • Yankees82
                    Rookie
                    • May 2018
                    • 100

                    #1959
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                    I’m about to hang this game up and take about a 2 month break. I am so frustrated it isn’t even fun anymore. The last 15 games my batting average is .186 and BABIP is .197.

                    That is way more than a slump. The CPU has no problems getting hits. Hard hits always find the holes. I either hit a homerun or pop it up. If I do hit it hard it is right at someone. When I get a single my team runs out of the dugout and mobs him at first base it is so bad. I am tempted to go back to All Star. I tried lowering pitch speeds, raising solid hits. Now I have slideritis and this game isn’t fun anymore. I had a 3-1 lead against the Rays in the 7th inning. Severino gave up 6 runs in like 2 minutes. Please help.

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                    • Rocky2018
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 82

                      #1960
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                      Originally posted by Yankees82
                      I’m about to hang this game up and take about a 2 month break. I am so frustrated it isn’t even fun anymore. The last 15 games my batting average is .186 and BABIP is .197.



                      That is way more than a slump. The CPU has no problems getting hits. Hard hits always find the holes. I either hit a homerun or pop it up. If I do hit it hard it is right at someone. When I get a single my team runs out of the dugout and mobs him at first base it is so bad. I am tempted to go back to All Star. I tried lowering pitch speeds, raising solid hits. Now I have slideritis and this game isn’t fun anymore. I had a 3-1 lead against the Rays in the 7th inning. Severino gave up 6 runs in like 2 minutes. Please help.


                      Create a new user profile, use these sliders and put the difficulty on Dynamic. You will get a handful of cheese games that shoot your stats up as it gets you back up to your actual playing level and settles in. Plus gets you back to the basics of pitch recognition as the will throw more meatballs and more way off the plate balls which get you out of that funk of swinging at bad pitches.

                      I did this first time last year and it worked wonders, been doing it this year from start and my pitching difficulty is locked in at HOF+ and my hitting goes from HOF to Allstar +, my numbers once out of that early phase of rookie, veteran etc phase are now on par with where they should be simulation wise, I still get the same effects these great sliders provide and I get the stretches of slumps and hot streaks similar to real mlb and the familiar frustrations your having now are gone

                      What do you have to lose at this point right, good luck


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                      • JoshC1977
                        All Star
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 11564

                        #1961
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                        Originally posted by Rocky2018
                        Create a new user profile, use these sliders and put the difficulty on Dynamic. You will get a handful of cheese games that shoot your stats up as it gets you back up to your actual playing level and settles in. Plus gets you back to the basics of pitch recognition as the will throw more meatballs and more way off the plate balls which get you out of that funk of swinging at bad pitches.

                        I did this first time last year and it worked wonders, been doing it this year from start and my pitching difficulty is locked in at HOF+ and my hitting goes from HOF to Allstar +, my numbers once out of that early phase of rookie, veteran etc phase are now on par with where they should be simulation wise, I still get the same effects these great sliders provide and I get the stretches of slumps and hot streaks similar to real mlb and the familiar frustrations your having now are gone

                        What do you have to lose at this point right, good luck


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                        I think this is really good advice and to add one piece to it. Play those first handful of games with the dynamic difficulty slider at 10 and do a couple of 'Play Now' games (heck, slant the sliders heavily in your favor). Basically, get yourself up to All Star level and then back everything off back to the OP and back the dynamic difficulty slider to like 2/3 until you "lock in" (You'll know because you will never quite move past that level).
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                        • forme95
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 3118

                          #1962
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                          Originally posted by JoshC1977
                          I think this is really good advice and to add one piece to it. Play those first handful of games with the dynamic difficulty slider at 10 and do a couple of 'Play Now' games (heck, slant the sliders heavily in your favor). Basically, get yourself up to All Star level and then back everything off back to the OP and back the dynamic difficulty slider to like 2/3 until you "lock in" (You'll know because you will never quite move past that level).
                          I was just going to say this exact same thing about playing 10 games in "play now" so you dont mess with the franchise numbers. Once locked in, I'd move the dynamic slider to 0 so it doesnt move off that.
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                          • JoshC1977
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 11564

                            #1963
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                            Originally posted by Yankees82
                            I’m about to hang this game up and take about a 2 month break. I am so frustrated it isn’t even fun anymore. The last 15 games my batting average is .186 and BABIP is .197.

                            That is way more than a slump. The CPU has no problems getting hits. Hard hits always find the holes. I either hit a homerun or pop it up. If I do hit it hard it is right at someone. When I get a single my team runs out of the dugout and mobs him at first base it is so bad. I am tempted to go back to All Star. I tried lowering pitch speeds, raising solid hits. Now I have slideritis and this game isn’t fun anymore. I had a 3-1 lead against the Rays in the 7th inning. Severino gave up 6 runs in like 2 minutes. Please help.

                            Oh, I have been right where you are...when the replies of "it's just a slump, just stick with it" become downright insulting. I dropped to All Star, I varied pitch speeds, I tweaked sliders, I did a lot of different things; but regardless of what team I used, I was still "off". I knew it was something else, something more "global" - the camera.

                            I was using one of the Zoom cameras, which I love the look, but it is also looking downward. It was causing me major perception issues for low pitches; it took me longer to mentally process "is this low or not" and threw-off my swing timing. So, I was getting in a lot of bad counts or making poor contact on pitches I shouldn't have swung at. I was using a low vision team like you are, and the results spiraled quickly...all because my hitting camera was not working for me this year. I finally switched to retro cam, which has no vertical angle, and I can more easily 'read' the low pitches and oddly, I find it easier to time the pitches now.

                            So, ask yourself, are you having any sort of consistent pitch recognition issues? If so, some sort of an adjustment to your camera setting might do you more good than anything else. I'm sure that we can all offer you advice on the "best camera" and what we all think is utterly useless for you. Evaluate your own tendencies and ask yourself where you are having issues.

                            One final piece of advice: while you're still searching for the optimal setup - go back to solid hits at 5. It will reward you more for good decisions and timing - positive reinforcement. Once you're back in a groove, then you can decide for yourself if you want to go back to a lower value.
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                            • Burgess
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 1015

                              #1964
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                              Originally posted by BleacherCreature
                              I did not fire my manager (yet) but I’m almost at the end of May and fired my hitting coach. My hitting in clutch situations has greatly improved since.


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                              I’m starting my Yankees franchise over and fired my hitting coach before spring training as I noticed several hitters including Judge had low morale as a result of poor coaching. I hired that Delgado as my hitting coach and the morale of these players improved in the coaching area (still unhappy with contact situation).

                              Looking forward to starting my season tonight
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                              • KBLover
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 12172

                                #1965
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                                Originally posted by JoshC1977
                                I dropped to All Star, I varied pitch speeds, I tweaked sliders, I did a lot of different things; but regardless of what team I used, I was still "off". I knew it was something else, something more "global" - the camera.
                                Yes, finding the right hitting or pitching view for you (including customizing it), is the first thing to do. I took this to heart in MLB15 when I finally just decided to change it up. That's why I hit from the pitcher view. I tried it - loved it, and haven't looked back since.
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