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  • BleacherCreature
    MVP
    • Apr 2007
    • 3160

    #856
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

    Originally posted by Downtown Bob
    HOF and Fish Eye. The same ones in the sliders.


    My recommendation is adjust your timing slider to a point where your contact is equal to what you’re seeing from the CPU hitters. I actually had to drop my hitting level down to all star. I was getting too frustrated on HOF lol. I may switch back depending on how well I start hitting on AS though.


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    • jake44np
      Post Like a Champion!
      • Jul 2002
      • 9563

      #857
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

      Originally posted by Downtown Bob
      I don't think I have had a game where I have hit more than 6 hits total. I work the counts and all but my guys either pop it up, barely make contact, or hit it right at someone. It is really frustrating. Is there anything I could possible do differently?
      Drop down to All Star hitting for about 10 games or so.
      I am guessing your timing is off.
      HOF is hard as it should be.
      All Star gives you a much larger zone to make good contact with.
      I was struggling just like you and after about 20 games into my season I went down to All Star hitting.
      I have been using All Star for about 15 games now and I am really start to hit better.
      If I continue to get better I will move back up to HOF.
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      • Downtown Bob
        Rookie
        • Dec 2015
        • 304

        #858
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

        Originally posted by jake44np
        Drop down to All Star hitting for about 10 games or so.
        I am guessing your timing is off.
        HOF is hard as it should be.
        All Star gives you a much larger zone to make good contact with.
        I was struggling just like you and after about 20 games into my season I went down to All Star hitting.
        I have been using All Star for about 15 games now and I am really start to hit better.
        If I continue to get better I will move back up to HOF.
        I don't want to move down to All-Star, but I am thinking that's what I should do (no point in continuing to bang my head into a wall). Appreciate the advice.

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        • Mephiskapheles
          Rookie
          • May 2013
          • 151

          #859
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

          Originally posted by ninertravel
          I have had to put the starter stamina to 6 or 7 and reliever to 3.. the CPU is ruining games I find I have to do the changes myself with the move controller over.



          with it's pathetic BP management. I found that with starters set to 5 most pitchers will be tired and be in the yellow when they are up to about 70 to 75 pitchers. putting it to 6 put's it into that 80 to 90 pitches range and red by the time they are at 100



          as for Relievers they are looking at a limit on average of 30 pitches per game. so you want them to hit yellow by about 30 pitches. part of the problem of trying to get scores realistic and issues are to do with the A1 joke of a BP management mange it yourself you get even better results


          This is my biggest issue too. I’m surprised a lot of sliders have starter at 5. I’m going to go with 7/3 and that sounds like it’ll fix it.


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          • BleacherCreature
            MVP
            • Apr 2007
            • 3160

            #860
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

            Originally posted by Mephiskapheles
            This is my biggest issue too. I’m surprised a lot of sliders have starter at 5. I’m going to go with 7/3 and that sounds like it’ll fix it.


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            I feel reliever stamina has to be a little higher than 3 though. I’m having middle relief guys entering the game with full energy but then getting the “________ is getting tired” after around 12-15 pitches. And that’s with the slider at 5.


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            • jake44np
              Post Like a Champion!
              • Jul 2002
              • 9563

              #861
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

              Originally posted by Mephiskapheles
              This is my biggest issue too. I’m surprised a lot of sliders have starter at 5. I’m going to go with 7/3 and that sounds like it’ll fix it.


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              I was going to bring this up too.
              I cant go more than 75 pitches with it at 5.
              I am going to try 6 or 7 i think.
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              • GoBlue81188
                MVP
                • Jul 2004
                • 1801

                #862
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                Also would like to take a look at Stamina sliders.

                I’d love to know what the rating should equate to in everyone’s eyes:

                Stamina rating:
                60-70= ?? Pitches
                70-80= ?? Pitches

                Etc...

                I am running with Oakland, most the starters are very low stamina (70 and under), and it’s tough for me to make it out of the 5th without being gassed. Not saying a change is needed but just want to gather feedback before any change
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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21795

                  #863
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                  Amazing how different the results are for different people. But actually it does not surprise me.

                  I am getting 85-90 pitches out of my starters on average at 5

                  Max effort will drastically reduce your starters stamina...so keep that in mind.

                  But as always make whatever tweaks you feel you need for your play style and skill level.

                  I can tell you tweak's I have been testing (on HOF) and I want a lot more games before I potentially make any changes is:

                  Human Timing on 6
                  Human Control on 5

                  CPU Solid Hits 5
                  CPU Foul Frequency at 3
                  CPU Timing 4


                  So be patient. I don't rush changes with my slider sets nor am I a very reactive.

                  I test a lot and once I feel confident that changes are justified...they will be made. But if not....nothing will change.

                  But know that I read everyone's feedback and my strikeout numbers are lower than I like too....but I have not had enough sample size.

                  I realize K numbers are far higher in today's MLB....but if the tweaks I test unbalance the game somewhere else....I will live with the strikeout numbers where they are.

                  I hate going down the everlasting rabbit hole of slider tweaking. And I won't get crazy about perfect stats......there is no such thing with sports video games.

                  Period.

                  Gameplay smoothness, great variety of games...fun. Those are the driving factors of how I want a slider set to be. Most of the time stats will revert to the mean. But walks and strikeouts have always been tough areas to get what is considered great for some people.

                  I simply don't let that bother me. I have the "it's a video game" mantra locked into my brain. Hence why I can not get too caught up in the inertia (stat trap) of sports video games. Believe me, it will ruin your enjoyment of what is overall an incredible game of baseball,.
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                  • WSCUkicker
                    Rookie
                    • May 2018
                    • 152

                    #864
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                    Amazing how different the results are for different people. But actually it does not surprise me.



                    I am getting 85-90 pitches out of my starters on average at 5



                    Max effort will drastically reduce your starters stamina...so keep that in mind.



                    But as always make whatever tweaks you feel you need for your play style and skill level.



                    I can tell you tweak's I have been testing (on HOF) and I want a lot more games before I potentially make any changes is:



                    Human Timing on 6

                    Human Control on 5



                    CPU Solid Hits 5

                    CPU Foul Frequency at 3

                    CPU Timing 4





                    So be patient. I don't rush changes with my slider sets nor am I a very reactive.



                    I test a lot and once I feel confident that changes are justified...they will be made. But if not....nothing will change.



                    But know that I read everyone's feedback and my strikeout numbers are lower than I like too....but I have not had enough sample size.



                    I realize K numbers are far higher in today's MLB....but if the tweaks I test unbalance the game somewhere else....I will live with the strikeout numbers where they are.



                    I hate going down the everlasting rabbit hole of slider tweaking. And I won't get crazy about perfect stats......there is no such thing with sports video games.



                    Period.



                    Gameplay smoothness, great variety of games...fun. Those are the driving factors of how I want a slider set to be. Most of the time stats will revert to the mean. But walks and strikeouts have always been tough areas to get what is considered great for some people.



                    I simply don't let that bother me. I have the "it's a video game" mantra locked into my brain. Hence why I can not get too caught up in the inertia (stat trap) of sports video games. Believe me, it will ruin your enjoyment of what is overall an incredible game of baseball,.


                    How has testing for the changes been going?


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                    • Burgess
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 1015

                      #865
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                      Amazing how different the results are for different people. But actually it does not surprise me.

                      I am getting 85-90 pitches out of my starters on average at 5

                      Max effort will drastically reduce your starters stamina...so keep that in mind.

                      But as always make whatever tweaks you feel you need for your play style and skill level.

                      I can tell you tweak's I have been testing (on HOF) and I want a lot more games before I potentially make any changes is:

                      Human Timing on 6
                      Human Control on 5

                      CPU Solid Hits 5
                      CPU Foul Frequency at 3
                      CPU Timing 4


                      So be patient. I don't rush changes with my slider sets nor am I a very reactive.

                      I test a lot and once I feel confident that changes are justified...they will be made. But if not....nothing will change.

                      But know that I read everyone's feedback and my strikeout numbers are lower than I like too....but I have not had enough sample size.

                      I realize K numbers are far higher in today's MLB....but if the tweaks I test unbalance the game somewhere else....I will live with the strikeout numbers where they are.

                      I hate going down the everlasting rabbit hole of slider tweaking. And I won't get crazy about perfect stats......there is no such thing with sports video games.

                      Period.

                      Gameplay smoothness, great variety of games...fun. Those are the driving factors of how I want a slider set to be. Most of the time stats will revert to the mean. But walks and strikeouts have always been tough areas to get what is considered great for some people.

                      I simply don't let that bother me. I have the "it's a video game" mantra locked into my brain. Hence why I can not get too caught up in the inertia (stat trap) of sports video games. Believe me, it will ruin your enjoyment of what is overall an incredible game of baseball,.
                      Man, I REALLY hope you decide to make these slider adjustments. I’ve been really struggling with HOF hitting this year, in particular with catching up to a fastball. I play on HOF as you do and don’t want to go down to AllStar. I have pitch speed at 5/5 and don’t want to go lower (unless you decide the need to). I’m thinking increasing the timing slider to 6 might be my solution - but I follow your sliders exactly so won’t make the change unless you do! Thanks again for all of your work on the sliders.
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                      • steelersd26
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 437

                        #866
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                        Originally posted by Burgess
                        I have pitch speed at 5/5 and don’t want to go lower (unless you decide the need to). I’m thinking increasing the timing slider to 6 might be my solution - but I follow your sliders exactly so won’t make the change unless you do!
                        I switched back to 5/5 for this exact reason. I felt like I was making hitting artificially easier by knocking down the pitch speeds on my own. I can never get myself to deviate from Armor's sliders because I feel like any change I make on my own would be giving me an unfair advantage over the CPU and "break" the sim experience of the game.
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                        • Burgess
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 1015

                          #867
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                          Originally posted by steelersd26
                          I switched back to 5/5 for this exact reason. I felt like I was making hitting artificially easier by knocking down the pitch speeds on my own. I can never get myself to deviate from Armor's sliders because I feel like any change I make on my own would be giving me an unfair advantage over the CPU and "break" the sim experience of the game.
                          My feelings exactly. In Armour we trust!!
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                          • JG1986
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 513

                            #868
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                            Originally posted by Burgess
                            My feelings exactly. In Armour we trust!!
                            Just would like to interject that, yes I 100% trust Armour too, but remember his sliders aren't the end all be all! He gives us a great base. I have had CPU solid hits at 5 since the beginning on HOF and after 22 games I still lead the league with the best ERA, despite being 29th in strikeouts. You would think there would be more correlation there. Anyway, the point of my post here is I think the one slider that should be completely custom would be the pitch slider. I don't think the pitch speed slider would really impact any other slider. If you aren't getting around on fastballs, lower it until you are comfortable. That was the key for me this year. Last year I had it on 9. This year I have it on 7. You aren't cheating the CPU by lowering it. The CPU isn't conscious of this lol.

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                            • Burgess
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 1015

                              #869
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                              Originally posted by JG1986
                              Just would like to interject that, yes I 100% trust Armour too, but remember his sliders aren't the end all be all! He gives us a great base. I have had CPU solid hits at 5 since the beginning on HOF and after 22 games I still lead the league with the best ERA, despite being 29th in strikeouts. You would think there would be more correlation there. Anyway, the point of my post here is I think the one slider that should be completely custom would be the pitch slider. I don't think the pitch speed slider would really impact any other slider. If you aren't getting around on fastballs, lower it until you are comfortable. That was the key for me this year. Last year I had it on 9. This year I have it on 7. You aren't cheating the CPU by lowering it. The CPU isn't conscious of this lol.
                              Thanks for your input. The first thing I might try before dropping pitch speed is try a new camera angle. I’ve always used zoom with good results. I like the feeling of being right on top of the plate, almost like I’m in the batter’s box. But maybe with the consensus that pitch speeds are faster this year maybe zoom is “too close”. I tried fish eye and just feel like I’m too far away from the plate and the pitcher seems too far away. Someone mentioned The Show 2015 angle. I tried that for a few minutes before work and I liked it more than I thought I would. I could see the ball pretty well and could react well to offspeed pitches. But, still late on fastballs. I’m going to try some offset camera angles after work and the 2015 angle a bit more to see if I can find an angle that allows me to react to a fastball a bit faster. If that fails, I’ll drop down to 4/4 as you suggest.

                              Thanks again for your advice. What I like most about this thread is the willingness of all posters to help each other out. Thanks everyone!!
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                              • WSCUkicker
                                Rookie
                                • May 2018
                                • 152

                                #870
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 19 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                                Originally posted by Burgess
                                Thanks for your input. The first thing I might try before dropping pitch speed is try a new camera angle. I’ve always used zoom with good results. I like the feeling of being right on top of the plate, almost like I’m in the batter’s box. But maybe with the consensus that pitch speeds are faster this year maybe zoom is “too close”. I tried fish eye and just feel like I’m too far away from the plate and the pitcher seems too far away. Someone mentioned The Show 2015 angle. I tried that for a few minutes before work and I liked it more than I thought I would. I could see the ball pretty well and could react well to offspeed pitches. But, still late on fastballs. I’m going to try some offset camera angles after work and the 2015 angle a bit more to see if I can find an angle that allows me to react to a fastball a bit faster. If that fails, I’ll drop down to 4/4 as you suggest.



                                Thanks again for your advice. What I like most about this thread is the willingness of all posters to help each other out. Thanks everyone!!


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