JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

[bryanm1982]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

I’ve actually played 8 games with these using HOF hitting. I am hitting .235 but I only have 4 HR in the 8 games being the Yankees.

46 singles
13 doubles
4 home runs

I feel like allstar gives you more hit variety. Debating on continuing to use HOF or going back to Allstar and raising pitch speed.

[kcamp3]

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The only thing with baserunner speed going higher is you will get some unrealistic infield hits. Especially since we already have it at 5. OF arm strength should make the runners more aggressive I would think since the runners won’t be afraid of getting thrown out.

Yeah I agree. I’d say if it works like that, that would be the one I’d adjust. They really need to add a base running aggression slider. I remember that in the older games and you’d get some awesome close plays.

[bryanm1982]

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Yeah I agree. I’d say if it works like that, that would be the one I’d adjust. They really need to add a base running aggression slider. I remember that in the older games and you’d get some awesome close plays.

Well does the 3rd base coach’s ratings have baserunner aggressive ratings? Like you can used to hire an aggressive or conservative coach. They used to. Now I think they just give your team attribute boosts like contact, speed, etc.

[tyler28]

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And can I use meter pitching with these sliders?

Yes

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[JoshC1977]

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I've noticed how there are some gamers struggling to score and hit homers while others indicate no such issue. I felt very little challenge getting the CPU hitters as well. Since it was some and not all gamers I knew my own struggle had to be something I was doing. I tracked my struggle back to switching from the Sony rosters to Full Minors v3. I did so because after 6 weeks weeks of play now games I was ready to start a franchise.

After two seperate franchise (A's and Cubs) that rendered the same results, me last in hitting homers while first in giving up the fewest I decided to start over. I found a set of rosters in vault that were based off the Sony rosters ands got back at it.

It has been a 180 shift! My first A's game I hit 3 homers with Kris Davis and the CPU pounded their own with Encarnacion showing me the parrot. I won that game 12-4, won the next 4-2 giving up two homers. Then lost the next 11-3 with Angels hitting three bombs of me.

I now feel the 'pop' is back in the bags ands the challenge of pitching has resumed...

Not much is said in these forums about different rosters rendering different game style, but I for one believe they do.

Not saying you're wrong or right. I've thrown some pretty radical ideas out there with Madden and NCAA slider testing.

Here's the thing; correlation does not equal causation and confirmation bias is a very real thing. You might have just hit that hot streak, or did better with the batters you were using. There are tons of possible reasons.

The true 'Full Minors' rosters that Ridin and Co. puts out do not touch SDS' player ratings (and all rosters have an SDS roster as the 'base'....). So, there is no obvious reason why there would be a difference. So, before throwing out a 2-game sample size as 'gospel' that SDS rosters are better, get another 30-40 games under your belt.

I use untouched SDS rosters (I'm using the update that Senzel was added) and see the same things you have been concerned with....but in playing every pitch of every game, I have seen the ton of variety....but that variety can sometimes take a dozen or more games to really manifest. The hard thing is if you DO get a bunch of guys on cold streaks, it can spiral even more...you could go into a MONTH-LONG slump before you come out of it.

And can I use meter pitching with these sliders?

I don't advise it. It'd likely be way too easy to nail every pitch. If you want to use that interface, I'd suggest finding a slider set designed specifically for it.

The only thing with baserunner speed going higher is you will get some unrealistic infield hits. Especially since we already have it at 5. OF arm strength should make the runners more aggressive I would think since the runners won’t be afraid of getting thrown out.

Your rationale is reasonable, but untested. Frankly, if I isolate OF arm strength on its own merits, I feel default is too low (so going even lower is an unpalatable option IMO). However, raising them will make the runners too passive (that has been tested previously and confirmed in Armor's thread).

The solution could be something as seemingly bass-ackwards as lowering the baserunner speed a notch...sometimes doing the opposite can make the CPU more aggressive.

I'll take a look at this a bit throughout the next couple of weeks and see what we see.

[Xcavs31x]

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Let me ask you this josh. If I tried your user hitting with armors cpu hitting and human pitching. Think that would work? Or should I tweak your pitching to make it a touch harder?

[gman2774]

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You can choose a different team’s broadcast cam.

The pitch info is one thing I will leave on though. For me it acts as a scouting report. These pros have all day to study up, I’ve only got a couple hours a day to play. At least that’s my justification for it staying on

How do you choose a different teams broadcast cam? I remember this feature from a few years back but can’t find it in this year’s game. Thanks!


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[GoodyBucs]

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[QUOTE=JoshC1977;2049793711]Not saying you're wrong or right. I've thrown some pretty radical ideas out there with Madden and NCAA slider testing.

Here's the thing; correlation does not equal causation and confirmation bias is a very real thing. You might have just hit that hot streak, or did better with the batters you were using. There are tons of possible reasons.

The true 'Full Minors' rosters that Ridin and Co. puts out do not touch SDS' player ratings (and all rosters have an SDS roster as the 'base'....). So, there is no obvious reason why there would be a difference. So, before throwing out a 2-game sample size as 'gospel' that SDS rosters are better, get another 30-40 games under your belt.

I use untouched SDS rosters (I'm using the update that Senzel was added) and see the same things you have been concerned with....but in playing every pitch of every game, I have seen the ton of variety....but that variety can sometimes take a dozen or more games to really manifest. The hard thing is if you DO get a bunch of guys on cold streaks, it can spiral even more...you could go into a MONTH-LONG slump before you come out of it.

Do roster makers like Ridin port over players from previous seasons rosters?

[JoshC1977]

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How do you choose a different teams broadcast cam? I remember this feature from a few years back but can’t find it in this year’s game. Thanks!


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You need to create a custom camera setting....when you scroll through the default cameras, it will show the broadcast view for each team.

[kcamp3]

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Your rationale is reasonable, but untested. Frankly, if I isolate OF arm strength on its own merits, I feel default is too low (so going even lower is an unpalatable option IMO). However, raising them will make the runners too passive (that has been tested previously and confirmed in Armor's thread).

The solution could be something as seemingly bass-ackwards as lowering the baserunner speed a notch...sometimes doing the opposite can make the CPU more aggressive.

I'll take a look at this a bit throughout the next couple of weeks and see what we see.

I think that would be suffice. Thanks Josh. I know they don't happen often but they do happen and its awesome to throw guys out at the plate and tagging and such.I think this is really the only big thing I've noticed about this game back from being like real. That and the Cubs are 27-5 in my Franchise. Come on now.. Lol

[JoshC1977]

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Just a quick update. Still having a blast with the OP setup and just getting so much good variety with my games. My Reds' hitting has finally begun to heat up (not coincidentally coinciding with Votto's return from the IL). Of course, my pitching has cooled off a bit too...it's just all evening out a bit. I've also begun streaming a bit on Twitch (first time I've streamed this game)...it's been a lot of fun and we've had some fantastic games.

I'm playing around a little with baserunner speed and may tinker with OF arm strength a bit....just to see if we can milk a tad more baserunning aggression out of the CPU. Nothing definitive to report here as of yet.

I'm aware 1.11 dropped today and (fortunately) based on the patch notes, I anticipate no changes will be needed at all. Please, for the love of all that is good....do not play 1-2 games and say "the patch broke XYZ" because 99/100 times, it is just your normal everyday variance that had nothing to do with the patch.

[Rmiok222]

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Are you guys saying BR steal ability decreases power? I read that a couple pages back, unless I’m going nuts. I’m at 6 with that slider and I’m at a total loss of power with the Braves right now. I’d do anything to fix it. Even if it’s trying a baserunning slider back to default lol


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[JoshC1977]

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Are you guys saying BR steal ability decreases power? I read that a couple pages back, unless I’m going nuts. I’m at 6 with that slider and I’m at a total loss of power with the Braves right now. I’d do anything to fix it. Even if it’s trying a baserunning slider back to default lol

What we observed is that the two SB sliders (I never honed-in on which one it was....it may be one or both) definitely dinged hit quality. MANY more balls (user and CPU) were hit quite weakly. You could still hit balls hard, but it wasn't as frequent.

As soon as we reset them both back to default, the variety really came back....can still get into funks with solid hits at 4, but it's much more "even
" if that makes sense.

[Rmiok222]

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What we observed is that the two SB sliders (I never honed-in on which one it was....it may be one or both) definitely dinged hit quality. MANY more balls (user and CPU) were hit quite weakly. You could still hit balls hard, but it wasn't as frequent.



As soon as we reset them both back to default, the variety really came back....can still get into funks with solid hits at 4, but it's much more "even

" if that makes sense.

That’s awesome to know. I’ve been at 6-6 for both and have been struggling literally my whole season (only 2 weeks) with the Braves. I’ll try it at 5-5 for sure


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[Rmiok222]

JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

2 seconds after typing that I hit a leadoff HR with Inciarte lol. So far so good to say the least!

Update: its the second inning and I’m winning 7-0 with 7 hits and 2HR. One a grand slam by freeman. That’s so weird. I know it’s only an inning and a half but this is after I put BR back to default.


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