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  • JoshC1977
    All Star
    • Dec 2010
    • 11564

    #241
    Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

    Originally posted by kpeercy
    How are the walk numbers on both sides with these? I have found that I really cannot draw many walks with strike frequency at five. I usually have to lower it to about two.
    This is where the CPU pitch control at 6 comes into play. They will throw more borderline pitches (which you have to be willing to take). They also throw fewer 'crushable' pitches in the middle of the zone, so you have to be more patient. Sometimes, you have to take a strike to earn the walk.

    So, the ingredients are 100% there for you to draw walks. The rest of it is entirely up to your plate approach. I've had a lot of games where I've drawn 7-8 walks. I've had others where I was out of sorts hitting-wise and didn't draw any. If you can't draw walks with the OP, it is entirely on you.
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    • Armor and Sword
      The Lama
      • Sep 2010
      • 21794

      #242
      Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

      Originally posted by awffltony77
      A lot of it is Foul Frequency imo. I get rocked way more on this set than I do Armors.

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      On HOF pitching it is even harder to locate with pin point accuracy. So I turn down the foul frequency to balance this out and give you a chance with top guys and very strong accuracy guys.

      Low accuracy guys will still get punished and play true to their ratings as well. But you will get great variety where a 4th or 5th starter can have a great outing.

      HOF is a different world this cycle. Like Josh as alluded to a few times in this thread. It is tougher (as well as All-Star).

      Another difference in my set is I have base stealing sliders at 6/6 and no it does not affect hitting on HOF. I can’t speak for All-Star as I have not tested as extensively on that level as I am a pure HOF level player (have been for a few cycles now). But I trust Josh a lot and have mine set at 5/5 for the All-Star set tweaks I suggest in my thread.

      My pitcher stamina is at 5 vs 6. I have had no issues going deep with high stamina guys an I have gone deep with some lower ones. I want pitch counts to matter and I found at default they are highly balanced plus effort on pitches also is a factor you can’t forget about. A lot of high effort causes stress on the arm and lowers the pitch counts you can ultimately get if you balance your effort.

      My CPU Foul Frequency is also dialed down as opposed to default.

      So there are some small but impactful differences and of course the HOF level vs All-Star. Which is a big one. Pitch speeds at default on HOF are even quicker than All-Star default.

      It really is about what level you really should be at first and foremost. Then it really is about sample size. It takes a good 50-60 games to truly get a real feel of how things are playing out. This game is incredible with variety and statistical streaks and reversion to the mean.

      That’s baseball in a nutshell.

      You simply can’t play 2 games and draw conclusive conclusions. Sorry but that will drive you insane.

      Whether you use Josh’s set, my set, TNK who ever. Trust the settings if you are playing on the right level with the right hitting and pitching interfaces for your taste and just play the game.

      I know Josh and I are having a complete blast playing the game and have not looked back. Yeah I had to make some slight and easy to detect tweaks on the fly with patches.....but we are locked in.
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      • forme95
        MVP
        • Nov 2013
        • 3118

        #243
        Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

        Originally posted by JoshC1977
        This is where the CPU pitch control at 6 comes into play. They will throw more borderline pitches (which you have to be willing to take). They also throw fewer 'crushable' pitches in the middle of the zone, so you have to be more patient. Sometimes, you have to take a strike to earn the walk.



        So, the ingredients are 100% there for you to draw walks. The rest of it is entirely up to your plate approach. I've had a lot of games where I've drawn 7-8 walks. I've had others where I was out of sorts hitting-wise and didn't draw any. If you can't draw walks with the OP, it is entirely on you.
        Just to add to this, you have to be willing to contact swing off foul balls that are close. I've drawn plenty of walks with this set. You have to have a real batters approach. You will take some strike outs also.
        That's one of the great things about this slider set. You have to know your zone, you have to know how the ump is calling pitches, and you have to use the tools given. Not many pitches are clear balls or as Josh said, over the heart of the plate. Focus and working counts are key.

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        • tc020791
          MVP
          • Sep 2010
          • 2012

          #244
          Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

          Figured I'd throw up a stream for anyone who's interested in seeing how these are playing. Fair warning though, every time I stream my vision and discipline at the dish go to crap haha. If you miss the stream, it'll be archived.



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          • GoBlue81188
            MVP
            • Jul 2004
            • 1801

            #245
            Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

            Walks are definitely there for the user.

            Since I’ve turned off vibration I’m walking 1-2 more batters as well, which is terrific.
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            • kpeercy
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 1039

              #246
              Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

              Played a game and a half with these. Small sample size, but cpu offense seems punchless on AllStar.

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              • JoshC1977
                All Star
                • Dec 2010
                • 11564

                #247
                Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                Streaming a game or two on Twitch:

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                • Fcshuckers73
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 743

                  #248
                  Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                  Originally posted by bravesfan1984
                  How do you all workaround the issue of not being able to see catcher signs from the broadcast pitching view with the clean screen approach?
                  I modify the teams camera just high enough or move to the side just enough to see the signals....I try to keep the same angle as much as possible so every park has a different look/feel

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                  • tyler28
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 1719

                    #249
                    Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                    I dont think think this is a slider issue but has anyone noticed infielders, mainly SS and 3B bobble routine grounders?

                    I have only seen it a couple times on the cpu side but i get at least 2 a game on the user side. I had 3 in one inning and had to ask. I checked the fielders stats and they are above average.

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                    • JoshC1977
                      All Star
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 11564

                      #250
                      Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                      Originally posted by tyler28
                      I dont think think this is a slider issue but has anyone noticed infielders, mainly SS and 3B bobble routine grounders?

                      I have only seen it a couple times on the cpu side but i get at least 2 a game on the user side. I had 3 in one inning and had to ask. I checked the fielders stats and they are above average.

                      Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
                      Question 1: are you using auto fielding per the OP or manual?
                      Question 2: which players (more curious than anything)?

                      It does happen, but at least from my games, its usually on harder hit balls - which makes sense. I've certainly seen nothing egregious that has enticed me to consider adjusting the error sliders.
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                      • tyler28
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1719

                        #251
                        Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                        Originally posted by JoshC1977
                        Question 1: are you using auto fielding per the OP or manual?

                        Question 2: which players (more curious than anything)?



                        It does happen, but at least from my games, its usually on harder hit balls - which makes sense. I've certainly seen nothing egregious that has enticed me to consider adjusting the error sliders.
                        Its with the phillies infield.

                        I use manual but havent had an issue till this latest patch. Could be placebo but its definitely more frequent as of late .

                        It seems like an animation issue almost scripted. ( i know, i know. We dont use that word here) but once it happens its like ill get 2 or 3 in a row. Or one and 2 the next inning then i wont see any. Its very weird. Its like it comes in bunches then nothing. Its usually back to back innings then the rest of the game its fine. It could be a Manual fielding thing but since this its new and ive been playing since day one, i figured id ask if anyone else has noticed this.

                        I tested a game after with the braves and 1B freeman had a bobble and LF droped one that was catchable. ( same inning)

                        I know its not user error on my part on these issues. They are routine, that is why im asking. I wouldnt mention it if it was something ive seen all cycle.

                        Hard hit balls are understandable.



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                        • calfcramp!!!
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 111

                          #252
                          Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                          Originally posted by JoshC1977
                          Question 1: are you using auto fielding per the OP or manual?
                          Question 2: which players (more curious than anything)?

                          It does happen, but at least from my games, its usually on harder hit balls - which makes sense. I've certainly seen nothing egregious that has enticed me to consider adjusting the error sliders.



                          It isn't I see it as well. It does happen when the balls are hit hard, but it imo, errors in this game seem more then the average daily MLB game.


                          I tested a game after with the braves and 1B freeman had a bobble and LF dropped one that was catchable. ( same inning)

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                          • JoshC1977
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 11564

                            #253
                            Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                            I appreciate the feedback guys. I know they can be frustrating but I just have not seen anything from an error-perspective that makes me question the settings. Do they sometimes come in spades? Yes...and that happens IRL too.

                            Using my Reds, when I have Iglesias at SS (his fielding rating is ~80), he'll have the occasional bobble, which we want, but he's pretty daggone solid. If I put Peraza in (~50 fielding rating), it is a massive difference...he can be pretty bad....and should be.

                            From what I've observed, once you get around 70 fielding or less, the player starts becoming a liability in the field. At some positions (like 1B or LF), the chances are fewer and the bats are generally good enough to offset it. But at key defensive positions like SS, CF, or 3B, that guy better be a really darn good hitter or I'll be looking to replace him. If you have guys with fielding ratings in the 50s or below (and I have quite a few on my Reds)...it's going to be an adventure at times.

                            Edit: I have noticed that tired players also make more errors....again, as it should be....
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                            • tyler28
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 1719

                              #254
                              Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                              Originally posted by JoshC1977
                              I appreciate the feedback guys. I know they can be frustrating but I just have not seen anything from an error-perspective that makes me question the settings. Do they sometimes come in spades? Yes...and that happens IRL too.

                              Using my Reds, when I have Iglesias at SS (his fielding rating is ~80), he'll have the occasional bobble, which we want, but he's pretty daggone solid. If I put Peraza in (~50 fielding rating), it is a massive difference...he can be pretty bad....and should be.

                              From what I've observed, once you get around 70 fielding or less, the player starts becoming a liability in the field. At some positions (like 1B or LF), the chances are fewer and the bats are generally good enough to offset it. But at key defensive positions like SS, CF, or 3B, that guy better be a really darn good hitter or I'll be looking to replace him. If you have guys with fielding ratings in the 50s or below (and I have quite a few on my Reds)...it's going to be an adventure at times.

                              Edit: I have noticed that tired players also make more errors....again, as it should be....
                              Makes sense, thanks for the insight. I will adjust as needed. (Position players)



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                              • JoshC1977
                                All Star
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 11564

                                #255
                                Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

                                So, I get a lot of the same questions repeatedly, whether it is in the forum, via PM, or during my streams (or things I note people are often confused about). I thought I would create a quick FAQ for the thread that will hopefully be helpful. (If you guys think of anything else to add, let me know)

                                What is an appropriate sample size?
                                I consider a 'small sample size' for any sports games to be about 1/4 of a season. For baseball, that's about 40 games. Now, corroborating support (when assessing a change) can reduce the sample size significantly. But for 'run of the mill' assessments of a slider set's balance and effectiveness, I consider that 1/4 season to be the smallest acceptable sample size.

                                Can I use Quick Counts?
                                First of all, I never use them; I like to see the pitcher/batter duel unfold. I've heard positive reports with QCs and this setup. Just know that you might be making it tougher on yourself using these, as sometimes those early count pitches are the ones you can feast on.

                                Can I use other control interfaces (meter, zone, analog, etc) or use these for MoM or CPU v CPU mode?
                                You can try, but you're leaving more of the outcome in your hands instead of with the ratings. If you're skilled at those interfaces, it may skew the results in your favor. For you guys who enjoy just watching the action, I have no clue. We're pretty balanced here, so it should be OK...but if you're a 'stat hound' and expect every little stat to be perfect, I suggest you go to a dedicated thread.

                                I see (too many/too few) of (insert stat name). What slider can I adjust to fix that?
                                The most common (and annoying) question. Be objective and look at your own approach at how you play the game. It's often quite revealing and will give you ways to improve upon that stat(s) without changing a single slider. Sliders are all relative, so it can be tricky to isolate one particular area of the game without affecting 5 or 6 more.

                                How many games do you play in franchise?
                                I play every pitch of every game. I just cannot sim through stuff, I feel disconnected.

                                What's the best roster to use?
                                There is no such thing as a 'best roster'. I'm using an SDS roster for my Reds franchise (as the prospect potentials are more muted and make it much harder to make trades when you don't have 15 - 20 A/B potential guys in nearly every farm system) but will dabble with some custom rosters as well. One piece of advice: choose wisely.
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