Armor & Swords MLB The Show 20 Classic/Directional Clean Screen Simulation Sliders

[trusaleen1]

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Call to arms here.

Stay away from the patch threads and general forums.

It’s ridiculous.

This is our nest to talk The Show and have fun.


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Seems like we go through this every year, so as usual, state out of the general forum!

[ML]

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The Yankees are the first team to 20 wins on the season as our 2019 first round draft pick, New York native Henry Otto, made his major league debut. He pitched 5 innings, surrendering 3 runs on 9 hits, striking out 6.
No decision was received despite leaving the game up 4-3.

Otto has a mid 90s fastball, mid to high 80s slider, and a low to mid 80s circle change.

Currently a 73 ovr with a “B” potential, the 6’2 20 year old righty has pretty decent ratings especially for someone so young. We were forced to play our hand earlier than expected as we have a very banged up staff.

Otto had a sub 2 era in triple A in 30 innings pitched this year before he was called up.


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[BlueJays09]

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7 games in and I have noticed a ton of hits for both me and the computer. Some pretty big high scores with 10+ hits for both teams. Should I knock back contact back to 4 for both or something else?


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[bgdg824]

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Last 2 games for me Chris Sale 12 strikeouts Eduardo Rodriguez 10 strikeouts plus a few from bullpen each game.

How's everyone's strikeout totals? I'm second to last in the league and averaging about 5 strikeouts against the CPU a game.

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[Armor and Sword]

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Guys......and this will be the last time I say this.

5 games, 7 games, 10 games, 15 games.

That is not a sufficient sample size.....not in the least. I don’t care if your scoring 7-8 runs a game for 10 games. You gotta play more.

40, 50 even 60 games.....not a real sample size. Why? Baseball is played over 162 games. The Show replicates this better than any console baseball game in history.

Without fail.....each and every year I have played this series.....it reverts to the mean for me. Statisitcs are pretty in-line with believability. Will you have outliers? Yes!!! Will you have some career years? Yes!!! Will you have some bad years with guys who are stars? Yes!!!

That’s baseball.

Will you lead the league in least amount of walks allowed? Probably. (Simply a legacy issue so forget that and stop chasing that).

Will you lead the league in hitting into DP’s? Most likely you will be top 5 in that department. So don’t sweat it.



I play every inning, every pitch. And I can tell you if you keep playing you will see slumps, streaks, highs, lows, drama, blowouts, you getting lit up....crazy things.

Today I played a test franchise game. Braves (CPU) at Miami. I walked it off in the bottom of the 11th with the Marlins rookie CF Monte Harrison. IT WAS ****ING AWESOME.

This was a 1-1 game. I streamed it. It had it all.

I encourage you to watch it.

I have also been streaming other games.

Bottom line is you gotta trust the settings, trust the game. Keep playing. If your winning and hitting well.....freaking enjoy it. It won’t last.

Trust me.

And if it does......I will do my best to suggest tweaks. But I simply an not sit here and offer tweaks after 5,6 7 10, 15, even 20 games. It simply is not enough sample size to come to conclusions.

Talk to me after 35-40 games at least.

[ML]

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Do you guys manually steal (hold down L2) or auto (push it once)?


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[Armor and Sword]

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Do you guys manually steal (hold down L2) or auto (push it once)?


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I utilize both.

But when I do the pre-load steal....as soon as I see the pitcher lift his leg (RHP) I start tapping the L1 button to get a better jump. Works most of the time....but not all the time. If I manually steal I sealed the L2 right on first movement of his left leg (RHP).

[Gagnon39]

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Guys......and this will be the last time I say this.

5 games, 7 games, 10 games, 15 games.

That is not a sufficient sample size.....not in the least. I don’t care if your scoring 7-8 runs a game for 10 games. You gotta play more.

40, 50 even 60 games.....not a real sample size. Why? Baseball is played over 162 games. The Show replicates this better than any console baseball game in history.

Without fail.....each and every year I have played this series.....it reverts to the mean for me. Statisitcs are pretty in-line with believability. Will you have outliers? Yes!!! Will you have some career years? Yes!!! Will you have some bad years with guys who are stars? Yes!!!

That’s baseball.

Will you lead the league in least amount of walks allowed? Probably. (Simply a legacy issue so forget that and stop chasing that).

Will you lead the league in hitting into DP’s? Most likely you will be top 5 in that department. So don’t sweat it.



I play every inning, every pitch. And I can tell you if you keep playing you will see slumps, streaks, highs, lows, drama, blowouts, you getting lit up....crazy things.

Today I played a test franchise game. Braves (CPU) at Miami. I walked it off in the bottom of the 11th with the Marlins rookie CF Monte Harrison. IT WAS ****ING AWESOME.

This was a 1-1 game. I streamed it. It had it all.

I encourage you to watch it.

I have also been streaming other games.

Bottom line is you gotta trust the settings, trust the game. Keep playing. If your winning and hitting well.....freaking enjoy it. It won’t last.

Trust me.

And if it does......I will do my best to suggest tweaks. But I simply an not sit here and offer tweaks after 5,6 7 10, 15, even 20 games. It simply is not enough sample size to come to conclusions.

Talk to me after 35-40 games at least.

With all due respect I don’t think a long-time veteran of the series needs 30-40 games to tell a difference. I play every game, every pitch, and many years have played the full 162 and beyond.

I’m sure you most likely think I’m one in particular that likes to dwell on the negative parts of the game and complain. But I assure you that I want what we all want, a realistic baseball simulation. We have the best one every year in The Show. But the fact that there is wide-spread discussion about the abundance of power gives it credence. I would be willing to bet any amount of money that a future update will nerf power, at least to some degree. And that, in fact, is why that every year everything levels off by game 162. Because SDS drops updates based on data from users and adjust the game accordingly. And I’m very glad for that.

I definitely get that one cannot judge the game based on a 5-10 games generally. But for someone that plays the game religiously, they do not need 30-40 games to see that players are mashing homers like a roided-out monster.

I by no means am trying to hijack your thread, which is one I check regularly, as our skill level is likely very similar. So I’m not looking for a back and forth here. But I just think you need to consider the possibility that while a 30-40 game sample size may not me quite necessary. I love The Show, and I know you do by your eternal optimism for the game. But it’s okay to say that it has some issues and point them out. The most glaring issue is the homers and we’ll all be able to admit it when SDS drops an update that addresses it.


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[JHedges2]

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Do you guys manually steal (hold down L2) or auto (push it once)?


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Used to do manual until I discovered the auto. Pitchers kept holding the ball SO long and is often jump too soon and wind up getting picked off.

So to answer you question, lol—I utilize strictly auto now.


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[Armor and Sword]

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With all due respect I don’t think a long-time veteran of the series needs 30-40 games to tell a difference. I play every game, every pitch, and many years have played the full 162 and beyond.

I’m sure you most likely think I’m one in particular that likes to dwell on the negative parts of the game and complain. But I assure you that I want what we all want, a realistic baseball simulation. We have the best one every year in The Show. But the fact that there is wide-spread discussion about the abundance of power gives it credence. I would be willing to bet any amount of money that a future update will nerf power, at least to some degree. And that, in fact, is why that every year everything levels off by game 162. Because SDS drops updates based on data from users and adjust the game accordingly. And I’m very glad for that.

I definitely get that one cannot judge the game based on a 5-10 games generally. But for someone that plays the game religiously, they do not need 30-40 games to see that players are mashing homers like a roided-out monster.

I by no means am trying to hijack your thread, which is one I check regularly, as our skill level is likely very similar. So I’m not looking for a back and forth here. But I just think you need to consider the possibility that while a 30-40 game sample size may not me quite necessary. I love The Show, and I know you do by your eternal optimism for the game. But it’s okay to say that it has some issues and point them out. The most glaring issue is the homers and we’ll all be able to admit it when SDS drops an update that addresses it.


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I was not pointing my post at you.

And again.....I am not making conclusions based on 5,7,10 games.

I get too many post cluttering the thread with “I played 5 games and hit “x” amount of HR’s already.

Is power a little more prevalent? Yeah and last season in the real MLB it was too.

Again I am not jumping to any conclusions.

I barely touched my slider set last cycle after settling in within 3-4 weeks.

To each his own.

This is why I don’t chase sliders. And I do not think there will much nerfing by SDS. There was not last cycle. Nor the cycle before it.


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[govatsos18]

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Armor, question for you. In the past, you've done All-Star and HOF settings for hitting, depending on player preference. Are you doing that again this year or sticking strictly with HOF? Just curious. Thanks as always.

[Rmiok222]

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With all due respect I don’t think a long-time veteran of the series needs 30-40 games to tell a difference. I play every game, every pitch, and many years have played the full 162 and beyond.

I’m sure you most likely think I’m one in particular that likes to dwell on the negative parts of the game and complain. But I assure you that I want what we all want, a realistic baseball simulation. We have the best one every year in The Show. But the fact that there is wide-spread discussion about the abundance of power gives it credence. I would be willing to bet any amount of money that a future update will nerf power, at least to some degree. And that, in fact, is why that every year everything levels off by game 162. Because SDS drops updates based on data from users and adjust the game accordingly. And I’m very glad for that.

I definitely get that one cannot judge the game based on a 5-10 games generally. But for someone that plays the game religiously, they do not need 30-40 games to see that players are mashing homers like a roided-out monster.

I by no means am trying to hijack your thread, which is one I check regularly, as our skill level is likely very similar. So I’m not looking for a back and forth here. But I just think you need to consider the possibility that while a 30-40 game sample size may not me quite necessary. I love The Show, and I know you do by your eternal optimism for the game. But it’s okay to say that it has some issues and point them out. The most glaring issue is the homers and we’ll all be able to admit it when SDS drops an update that addresses it.


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I agree. And the fact that there’s a thread in the main forum talking about a power abundance with 4,000 views and 80 replies with atleast 30 people talking about it is much better than a 162 game sample size in my opinion.

That being said I absolutely respect all views.

Armor has the most popular slider set for a reason.


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[Gagnon39]

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I agree. And the fact that there’s a thread in the main forum talking about a power abundance with 4,000 views and 80 replies with atleast 30 people talking about it is much better than a 162 game sample size in my opinion.

That being said I absolutely respect all views.

Armor has the most popular slider set for a reason.


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Again, I don't want the "negativity," from the main forum to leak into this thread. Especially since Armor essentially mentioned staying away from it all. There's no doubt that the main forum is full of people on the extreme side of the argument, demanding this and that. So with that being said, I've made my point and won't say much about it on here anymore and I'm sure Armor would probably appreciate if we don't fill this thread up with talk about the game having too much power. I'm like you, I try to respect all views but I value opinions the most of people that play this game religiously like I do. That's why I always like Armor's sliders and thoughts on playing the game. The way he runs his entire franchise is pretty much exactly how I do and I think everyone here that has found this little corner of the internet is looking for as real of a baseball simulation as we can find.

Side note: my last game I didn't hit a home run and the wind was blowing in 11 miles per hour from centerfield toward home plate. Obviously could be a coincidence but either way it was the most enjoyable game I've had thus far. I hope there's more to come like it.

[justintasha1996]

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Testing update

We have been playing test games in a franchise using the latest SCEA roster.

Currently we are testing the OP woth the following adjustments:

Fielder reaction - 4
Fielder speed - 4

So far I am getting exactly what I wanted to see with this adjustment but I want a battery of games before I say 100% on it.

This is being done to create a better ratings spread between elite/good/average/below average defensive players.

Thus far no adjustments have had to be made to base runner speeds at all.



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Moved up to your sliders.. there Great of course... Question is do you recommend I use the Fielder reaction - 4 , & Fielder speed - 4 or should I use 5 like the first page.. Where are your thoughts on these 2 settings currently?

thanks so much Armor!!

[TopSide83]

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Moved up to your sliders.. there Great of course... Question is do you recommend I use the Fielder reaction - 4 , & Fielder speed - 4 or should I use 5 like the first page.. Where are your thoughts on these 2 settings currently?

thanks so much Armor!!

I personally liked 4/4 so much better. Outfielders are just way too fast at 5 and the infield reaction at 5 was a bit too much with the great plays being made.