S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

[ninertravel]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

isn't Britton listed as CP instead of RP by Default too?? that might have something to do with it

Loaisiga did once used to be a starter but still his stamina was low. that is wacky

[bryanm1982]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

isn't Britton listed as CP instead of RP by Default too?? that might have something to do with it

Loaisiga did once used to be a starter but still his stamina was low. that is wacky

I even simmed a season with the default bullpen and Britton only pitched in 30 games. He’s rated 76 or something so he’s not bad.

[Head Coach]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Got the game. I will play a simulated game with the sliders and see what happens

[bigdawg1690]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

So I simmed the rest of the season and turned off injuries. So nobody was called up or injured. That way I can see the total usage.



LR1: Joely Rodriguez 45 G, 60.1 IP, ERA 2.83 3 Holds

LR2: Clay Holmes 65 G, 93 IP, 4.45 ERA, 6 Holds

LR3: Jonathan Loaisiga 75 G, 121.2 IP, 2.44 ERA, 10 Holds

MR1: Domingo German 70 G, 69.2 IP, 4.26 ERA, 22 Holds

MR2: Chad Green 82 G, 80.1 IP, 2.46 ERA, 29 Holds

MR3: Zack Britton 45 G, 39.1 IP, 4.48 ERA,14 Holds

MR4: Lucas Luetge 59 G, 54 IP, 3.17 ERA, 22 Holds

CP: Aroldis Chapman 64 G, 53.1 IP, 3.71 ERA, 11 Saves



Thought it kind of odd Britton was the least used. 82 games by Green is kind of high but this was no injuries or roster moves.

Not bad. As you stated with Britton, I would have swapped him with Loaisiaga mid season or so if I noticed the huge disparity in appearances/innings. Mid season all star break seems to be a good point to re evaluate bullpens. I check them constantly, as I do injury replacements and lineup adjustments for all 30 teams.

What I noticed on last year's game seems to be the same here; the bullpen logic is still based off a 12 man staff and was never really adjusted. I had better balanced results with 3 LRPs and 3 MRPs last year using 12 then I did with the 4th MRP. I tried that this year by moving one guy into the SU slot. It's fairly effective at balancing the MRPS further, but as I said earlier in game that SU guy, who is probably the team's second best reliever, was only used with a lead in the 8th, in a hold situation.

Bottom line, it seems you have to have 3 LRPs to combat the overusage by the CPU, and the only way to truly balance is to monitor teams bullpen usage. Not even probably as much as I do, once or twice per season adjustments may do the trick. I wish they would just fix the logic that has plagued us for years now.

[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

Has SDS ever even acknowledged how terrible the bullpen usage logic is? This is been the same way for probably 10+ years now. Are they aware? It's hard to think how they've been so good at fixing other things and improving gameplay over the years...but bullpen usage has still never been addressed not even a little bit. Maybe they don't even realize how bad it is.

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[bryanm1982]

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Not bad. As you stated with Britton, I would have swapped him with Loaisiaga mid season or so if I noticed the huge disparity in appearances/innings. Mid season all star break seems to be a good point to re evaluate bullpens. I check them constantly, as I do injury replacements and lineup adjustments for all 30 teams.

What I noticed on last year's game seems to be the same here; the bullpen logic is still based off a 12 man staff and was never really adjusted. I had better balanced results with 3 LRPs and 3 MRPs last year using 12 then I did with the 4th MRP. I tried that this year by moving one guy into the SU slot. It's fairly effective at balancing the MRPS further, but as I said earlier in game that SU guy, who is probably the team's second best reliever, was only used with a lead in the 8th, in a hold situation.

Bottom line, it seems you have to have 3 LRPs to combat the overusage by the CPU, and the only way to truly balance is to monitor teams bullpen usage. Not even probably as much as I do, once or twice per season adjustments may do the trick. I wish they would just fix the logic that has plagued us for years now.

And this was just quick sim so I can see the stats. I didn’t get to take advantage of the better usage in the games. In one of my test games, the Red Sox were up 5-4 going into the 5th inning. And the AI brought in Brasier to pitch. That was really nice to see.

I showed Steve last night one simmed game the AI used 6 guys all pitching less than an inning.

[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

Back to testing today! Pitching only for both teams again with a couple minor tweaks to get more Ks against the cpu.

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[The Kid 24]

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Love the sliders, guys. I have been testing bullpen usage since the CPU still brings out the LRP first and here's what I've come up with thru about 20 games played and simmed. This way seems to get the most balance out of your CPU bullpen. 30 team control with all bullpens manually set...

LRP1 - Lowest rated RP (STAM < 40)
LRP2 - Next lowest RP (STAM < 40)
LRP3 - Next lowest RP (STAM <40)

MRP 1-4 - all other relievers except your closer

SU 1-2 EMPTY

CP Closer obviously

What I've seen is the CPU will go by rating and/or stamina when deciding who to put in. So if the first LRP is exhausted they will put in one of the other two in any inning prior to the 7th. 7-9 innings they will use the MRPs the same way, unless it's a lefty dominated lineup. The setup guys were only getting used when there was a lead in the 8th, obviously a limited time frame. This should balance out usage for the entire pen, except for the closer who will get all save opportunities. If during the season you see a deliver not getting as many opportunities swap him with a LRP and that should balance it out. Anyways this is what I've found to work best, feel free to give it a try.

This looks awesome! My only question is tho... When there's a injury or call up, doesnt the CPU AI reset all of this?

[DarthRambo]

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This looks awesome! My only question is tho... When there's a injury or call up, doesnt the CPU AI reset all of this?

I always have lineups/rotations on manual for cpu teams in 30 team control to combat this. Cause yeah they will reset lineups especially and I assume rotations with injuries. Turn injury management on MLB only so you know when a guy goes down longer term and you can call up a guy for them is what I do. The cpu is just dumb. They lose a SP for 2 months and recall a CF last night smh.

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[Head Coach]

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First game of 22. Spring training game versus the Indians on Dynamic Difficulty.


R H E
Indians 2 4 0
Mets 7 15 0

A lot of hits for me but only because Dynamic difficulty hasn't adjusted yet.
Plus the Indians starter Bieber has pitches that are close to being the same speed so I was able to time his pitches.

After a few games the hitting difficulty will be where it is supposed to be.
The sliders are excellent. Infield play is unpredictable like it should be. Superior infielders are the ones who make the superior plays like it should be.

Same goes for pitching after a few games the gameplay will be getting into proper shape.

The infield gameplay really shines in this years game. No gimme plays at all. You have make sure you are ready to throw on each ground ball.

The CPU leadoff hitter reached base and then stole second and third on me. Amazing. Once the difficulty gets right I can see there will be a lot of jams and tight situations to pitch out of.

I think I will play a few days of spring training games before I start my franchise.

[Head Coach]

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The Mets have a roster issue. They have two different rosters.

The 40 man roster is missing Cano and Taijuan Walker.
I can download Cano and add him but no one has created Walker yet.
So I could try to create himself.

The Franchise Mode roster HAS Walker there somehow but no Cano.
So why create Walker when I can just use him in franchise because as a pitcher he is more important than Cano. The problem is I cant add Cano to the Franchise roster that's already there just the 40 man. But no one created Walker yet so I cant put him on the 40 man unless I make him.

I probably should just use the Franchise mode roster with Walker and then just sign another good bat to fill the role that Cano should have.

Im not really good at creating players but I could just use the attributes already there.

What a crazy roster issue.

[The Kid 24]

Re: S &amp; B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I just loaded the live roster, I see Taijuan??

[bryanm1982]

Re: S &amp; B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

The Mets have a roster issue. They have two different rosters.

The 40 man roster is missing Cano and Taijuan Walker.
I can download Cano and add him but no one has created Walker yet.
So I could try to create himself.

The Franchise Mode roster HAS Walker there somehow but no Cano.
So why create Walker when I can just use him in franchise because as a pitcher he is more important than Cano. The problem is I cant add Cano to the Franchise roster that's already there just the 40 man. But no one created Walker yet so I cant put him on the 40 man unless I make him.

I probably should just use the Franchise mode roster with Walker and then just sign another good bat to fill the role that Cano should have.

Im not really good at creating players but I could just use the attributes already there.

What a crazy roster issue.

If you download the live roster and then import Cano you can save it. And then start a new franchise with that save roster.

[Head Coach]

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I tried downloading the live rosters. Still no Walker on the 40 man roster

[bryanm1982]

Re: S &amp; B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I tried downloading the live rosters. Still no Walker on the 40 man roster

Could he be off the 40 man? Check single A?