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  • dowie
    MVP
    • Feb 2005
    • 1986

    #16
    Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

    For those that try to "perfectly" emulate MLB #'s:

    35 Complete games were thrown in 2023, and only 5 pitchers threw 200+ innings. Setting SP stamina's to 1 and hook to 10 (FOR SIM GAMES), will generate league-wide sim stats that will come within 3% to 7% of those #'s (so long as you aren't using a roster set where the creator has their own ratings formula). I've simmed dozens of seasons and know for sure those sim settings work.

    Here are other 2023 MLB team averages:
    swing and miss % = 21 to 25%
    foul % = 13 to 17%
    1st pitch strike % = 60%
    overall strike % = 62-68 %
    BABIP % = .300 - easy to find on-line BABIP calculators
    OBP % = .320 - easy to find on-line OBP calculators
    SLG % = .414 - easy to find on-line SLG% calculators
    Batting Avg. = .250
    Runs p/game = 4.5
    hits p/game = 8.4
    2b's p/game = 1.7
    hr's p/game = 1.2
    bb p/game = 3.25
    strikeouts p/game = 8.6
    stole bases p/game = .780
    hbp p/game = .434
    # of total pitches thrown p/ game = 146

    HOF default (directional/classic/clean screen) plays closer to these MLB averages than people probably think.

    Some areas where default HOF didn't quite "matchup" (on the cpu side) are the following: cpu slugging too low, cpu foul % too high, cpu runs too low, and cpu batting averages too low.

    Won't bother posting what I think for the user side, because we all play w/ different teams and have different skill sets. The one thing for sure that didn't add up for me on the user side was that I was averaging more than 5 BB p/game. I'm patient at the dish for sure, but I was getting walks at an alarming rate. (with pitch speeds at 9). The cpu's strike % and 1st pitch strike % was within those MLB averages, and my OBP % was too, so I can't figure out why I can consistently get too many free passes?

    I do know this, whatever Armor comes up with, I bet his 23 set will still play close to these MLB averages.

    I'm just sharing this in case people want a statistical baseline to start from. I'm sorta in between when it comes to sliders.....1/2 eye test and 1/2 statistical output, so I do like to look at this data in case something is way off.

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    • Armor and Sword
      The Lama
      • Sep 2010
      • 21793

      #17
      Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

      Originally posted by dowie
      For those that try to "perfectly" emulate MLB #'s:



      35 Complete games were thrown in 2023, and only 5 pitchers threw 200+ innings. Setting SP stamina's to 1 and hook to 10 (FOR SIM GAMES), will generate league-wide sim stats that will come within 3% to 7% of those #'s (so long as you aren't using a roster set where the creator has their own ratings formula). I've simmed dozens of seasons and know for sure those sim settings work.



      Here are other 2023 MLB team averages:

      swing and miss % = 21 to 25%

      foul % = 13 to 17%

      1st pitch strike % = 60%

      overall strike % = 62-68 %

      BABIP % = .300 - easy to find on-line BABIP calculators

      OBP % = .320 - easy to find on-line OBP calculators

      SLG % = .414 - easy to find on-line SLG% calculators

      Batting Avg. = .250

      Runs p/game = 4.5

      hits p/game = 8.4

      2b's p/game = 1.7

      hr's p/game = 1.2

      bb p/game = 3.25

      strikeouts p/game = 8.6

      stole bases p/game = .780

      hbp p/game = .434

      # of total pitches thrown p/ game = 146



      HOF default (directional/classic/clean screen) plays closer to these MLB averages than people probably think.



      Some areas where default HOF didn't quite "matchup" (on the cpu side) are the following: cpu slugging too low, cpu foul % too high, cpu runs too low, and cpu batting averages too low.



      Won't bother posting what I think for the user side, because we all play w/ different teams and have different skill sets. The one thing for sure that didn't add up for me on the user side was that I was averaging more than 5 BB p/game. I'm patient at the dish for sure, but I was getting walks at an alarming rate. (with pitch speeds at 9). The cpu's strike % and 1st pitch strike % was within those MLB averages, and my OBP % was too, so I can't figure out why I can consistently get too many free passes?



      I do know this, whatever Armor comes up with, I bet his 23 set will still play close to these MLB averages.



      I'm just sharing this in case people want a statistical baseline to start from. I'm sorta in between when it comes to sliders.....1/2 eye test and 1/2 statistical output, so I do like to look at this data in case something is way off.



      In Armor we trust!



      Dowie


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      • TopSide83
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        • Sep 2016
        • 1402

        #18
        Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

        I’m ready for this slider set!

        One thing I know and this is obviously personal preference but I can no longer play with pitch speed any lower than 8. The ball just floats in there when you hit or pitch and it drives me insane.


        Main areas I’ve noticed that need tweaks are base runner and fielder speed. Too many double plays so with lower base runner speed I’d lower infielder arm strength.

        Default hitting has been pretty dang good so far for both me and the cpu. I’ve always been a big fan of matching contact for the hitter with control for the pitcher.

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        • MannybeingManny
          Rookie
          • Apr 2010
          • 219

          #19
          Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

          Originally posted by TopSide83
          I’m ready for this slider set!

          One thing I know and this is obviously personal preference but I can no longer play with pitch speed any lower than 8. The ball just floats in there when you hit or pitch and it drives me insane.


          Main areas I’ve noticed that need tweaks are base runner and fielder speed. Too many double plays so with lower base runner speed I’d lower infielder arm strength.

          Default hitting has been pretty dang good so far for both me and the cpu. I’ve always been a big fan of matching contact for the hitter with control for the pitcher.
          Without a doubt I second the pitch speed and something to assist with the amount of double plays. I hit into and turn the most double plays in the majors. I also feel like nearly every player is capable of making platinum glove plays especially so with men on base or double play situations.

          Yes pitch speed is personal preference but I feel like default is like slow pitch softball. It’s odd but if you want my offense to struggle have me hit on default pitch speed. It’s always been like that.
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          • bryanm1982
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            • Nov 2016
            • 3788

            #20
            Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

            Armor,

            Been watching your streams...who is the rookie Herzberg? Is that a player you created?
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            • Armor and Sword
              The Lama
              • Sep 2010
              • 21793

              #21
              Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

              Originally posted by bryanm1982
              Armor,



              Been watching your streams...who is the rookie Herzberg? Is that a player you created?


              That is my soon to be 19yr old son. He is a freshman and about to play his first season of college baseball at William Peace University in Raleigh NC. His home field is USA Baseball National Complex in Cary NC!!!


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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21793

                #22
                Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

                User DP's and hitting into DP's is a long running legacy issue.

                We will see what we can to help slow down that rate.

                My pitch speeds are 9/9


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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21793

                  #23
                  Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

                  I anticipate V1 to be posted by Friday evening.


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                  • bryanm1982
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                    • Nov 2016
                    • 3788

                    #24
                    Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

                    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                    That is my soon to be 19yr old son. He is a freshman and about to play his first season of college baseball at William Peace University in Raleigh NC. His home field is USA Baseball National Complex in Cary NC!!!


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                    Very cool! I thought it was your son cause I heard you say in the last game that my boy is playing 3B. But I didn't know if that was just a slang cause you like that player or it was literally your boy lol.

                    Just my 2 cents, but in my slider testing and my set, I have played a whole season and a half with IF arm strength one lower than baserunner speed. And that helps with double plays. The batter beats more of those plays out. Making double plays a little harder.

                    The MLB average in 23 was 0.71 double plays per game. I went through my stats and in 53 games so far in my 24 season, the CPU hit into 46 double plays (0.87 per game) and I hit into 30 (0.57 per game).
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                    • Armor and Sword
                      The Lama
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 21793

                      #25
                      Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

                      Originally posted by bryanm1982
                      Very cool! I thought it was your son cause I heard you say in the last game that my boy is playing 3B. But I didn't know if that was just a slang cause you like that player or it was literally your boy lol.

                      Just my 2 cents, but in my slider testing and my set, I have played a whole season and a half with IF arm strength one lower than baserunner speed. And that helps with double plays. The batter beats more of those plays out. Making double plays a little harder.

                      The MLB average in 23 was 0.71 double plays per game. I went through my stats and in 53 games so far in my 24 season, the CPU hit into 46 double plays (0.87 per game) and I hit into 30 (0.57 per game).


                      Excellent information Bryan!

                      So yeah my son is middle infielder but on occasion can play 3B if needed. I gave Rizzo a day off and moved DJ over to 1B so I gave the kid some reps at 3B lol.

                      Gonna test that out on arm strength/baserunner speed.


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                      • bryanm1982
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                        • Nov 2016
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                        #26
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                        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                        Excellent information Bryan!

                        So yeah my son is middle infielder but on occasion can play 3B if needed. I gave Rizzo a day off and moved DJ over to 1B so I gave the kid some reps at 3B lol.

                        Gonna test that out on arm strength/baserunner speed.


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                        Sounds good. I hope it makes a difference. It looks like DJ or Gleybor might have some competition for playing time.
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                        • Armor and Sword
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                          • Sep 2010
                          • 21793

                          #27
                          Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

                          Originally posted by bryanm1982
                          Sounds good. I hope it makes a difference. It looks like DJ or Gleybor might have some competition for playing time.
                          Haha yeah.....but I may end up sending him down to AA along with his best friend Hunter ‘Dumpy” Nelson (Catcher and he plays college ball in Iowa at Central University so they can get a ton of AB’s and marinate a little more. Both of them are on the 40 man and can be called up is injuries happen.
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                          • vertman
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                            • Feb 2003
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                            #28
                            Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

                            Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                            I anticipate V1 to be posted by Friday evening.


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                            Armor, if I gave already started a franchise can I download stadiums and use them in said franchise or do I need to start a new one?


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                            • bryanm1982
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                              • Nov 2016
                              • 3788

                              #29
                              Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

                              Originally posted by vertman
                              Armor, if I gave already started a franchise can I download stadiums and use them in said franchise or do I need to start a new one?


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                              Hey Vertman, you can still use them. If you go to one of the tabs you will see stadium assignments. Think its on the same tab as the standings and stats. You will then be able to assign the teams to the stadium.
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                              • vertman
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                                • Feb 2003
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                                #30
                                Re: Armor & Sword/RaiderRen’s HOF Clean Screen MLB 23 Simulation Sliders (PS5)

                                Originally posted by bryanm1982
                                Hey Vertman, you can still use them. If you go to one of the tabs you will see stadium assignments. Think its on the same tab as the standings and stats. You will then be able to assign the teams to the stadium.


                                Ah I never saw that. Thank you! This is why I love this forum community. Always positive and helpful. Thank you Bryan


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