Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

[skinz]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

Aw man!! They took the video down. Anyways, here's some footage about only playing as a pitcher:

Playing only as a pitcher for the season

Playing only as a second baseman
second base point of view




This is Pro Yakyuu last year trailer:

Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2004

[inkcil]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

u have to think of it this way tho, if we never saw mvp in our life or never heard of it then some saw vid on it, we would be amazed and want it. its just that the us hasnt seen anything like this yet so its a change.

With all due respect, If we were playing the Spirits game here in the US, and someone showed us video of the MVP game - or MLB or 2K5 for that - NO, we would NOT be amazed and want it. We would laugh and joke about hwo the game looks.

It's more than a change. The movements, cutscences, graphics and animations are superior. It's where baseball games are SUPPOSED to be visually by now.

But they are not because the game companies make $$$ off us by upgrading a tiny bit here and there ev'year. We can still enjoy the baseball games we have, but (aside from making comments on gameplay, b/c most of us haven't played Konamis' title) they are clearly inferior in appearance to Konami's offering. And if Winning 8 Eleven is any indication of gameplay for this baseball title.....

[inkcil]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

u have to think of it this way tho, if we never saw mvp in our life or never heard of it then some saw vid on it, we would be amazed and want it. its just that the us hasnt seen anything like this yet so its a change.

With all due respect, If we were playing the Spirits game here in the US, and someone showed us video of the MVP game - or MLB or 2K5 for that - NO, we would NOT be amazed and want it. We would laugh and joke about hwo the game looks.

It's more than a change. The movements, cutscences, graphics and animations are superior. It's where baseball games are SUPPOSED to be visually by now.

But they are not because the game companies make $$$ off us by upgrading a tiny bit here and there ev'year. We can still enjoy the baseball games we have, but (aside from making comments on gameplay, b/c most of us haven't played Konamis' title) they are clearly inferior in appearance to Konami's offering. And if Winning 8 Eleven is any indication of gameplay for this baseball title.....

[DGetz]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

I don't get why so many people seem to love the idea of controlling one guy for a whole career (or even just one game). I must be the only one who wouldn't want to sit there and watch eight other guys bat or 90% of the balls hit go to someone else on defense.

Hmm I dunno bout other but I naturally assumed you wouldn't have to wathc the game; it would just skip over half inning where you didnt bat, etc.

Also I would play it as a pitcher, so I can't testify for those who would want to play as position players.

[DGetz]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

I don't get why so many people seem to love the idea of controlling one guy for a whole career (or even just one game). I must be the only one who wouldn't want to sit there and watch eight other guys bat or 90% of the balls hit go to someone else on defense.

Hmm I dunno bout other but I naturally assumed you wouldn't have to wathc the game; it would just skip over half inning where you didnt bat, etc.

Also I would play it as a pitcher, so I can't testify for those who would want to play as position players.

[kazjason]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

I would love to just play at one position. Feels more like being part of a team. I wouldn't mind watching if I wasn't batting or whatever, if it provided that option. I play alot of games with player lock on to get that effect. I was hoping that was what mlb 2006 would let you do in carrer mode but it wasn't. Pretty cool concepts from these games though. Interesting to see what they are playing over there.

[kazjason]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

I would love to just play at one position. Feels more like being part of a team. I wouldn't mind watching if I wasn't batting or whatever, if it provided that option. I play alot of games with player lock on to get that effect. I was hoping that was what mlb 2006 would let you do in carrer mode but it wasn't. Pretty cool concepts from these games though. Interesting to see what they are playing over there.

[truckie16]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

The more videos I see of thjis game the better it looks. It looks like a cross between MLB 2k5 and MVP, the good qualities from each.Stellar graphics and sweet animations.

[truckie16]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

The more videos I see of thjis game the better it looks. It looks like a cross between MLB 2k5 and MVP, the good qualities from each.Stellar graphics and sweet animations.

[jawgee]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

Konami is a third-party producer, I believe, which means technically they could still make a baseball game next year. The take-two deal basically takes away EA sprots from using MLB crap, cause I know 989 and disney are both planning on games next year. If konami turned that game into an MLB game Take Two would have to restructure their contract to take away Konami's rights

How is Konami different than EA? They're both 3rd party software houses, right? From my understanding of the Take Two - MLB agreement, 3rd party developers such as EA & Konami are not allowed to make baseball using anything licensed by the MLB. They can still make non-MLB games, though. Console makers are still allowed to make MLB licensed games, though, which is very cool for MLB 2006 fans like me .

Thanks,
jawgee

[jawgee]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

Konami is a third-party producer, I believe, which means technically they could still make a baseball game next year. The take-two deal basically takes away EA sprots from using MLB crap, cause I know 989 and disney are both planning on games next year. If konami turned that game into an MLB game Take Two would have to restructure their contract to take away Konami's rights

How is Konami different than EA? They're both 3rd party software houses, right? From my understanding of the Take Two - MLB agreement, 3rd party developers such as EA & Konami are not allowed to make baseball using anything licensed by the MLB. They can still make non-MLB games, though. Console makers are still allowed to make MLB licensed games, though, which is very cool for MLB 2006 fans like me .

Thanks,
jawgee

[jawgee]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

Well Japanese developers are not looking to impress american baseball fans or capture American baseball.

Now I think all of you are going a little overboard and are thinking that japanese baseball videogames are the best. Sure it plays good and all, but american baseball games are just as good. So don't dismiss MVP,MLB 2K5, or MLB 2006. Just showing you all another baseball game.

Here's another Japanese baseball game last year from Namco:
Nechu Professional Baseball 2004

Looks like the MLB 2006 of Japanese baseball game,huh?

need windows media player for the link

Wow! Yet another really cool Japanese baseball game!!! I really love the "behind-the-pitcher" view. It actually looks like a TV-style presentation. I thought MLB 2006's BTP view was good this year, but this Nechu game blows it away!!

Not sure if I Iike the pitching meter & cursor, but the in between animations are so life-like. I cannot believe how far behind the MLB game developers are from their Japanese counterparts.

On a side note, an independent council needs to be formed to put together all of the best ideas & features from all of the different baseball past & present, & present them to a software developer to create the best baseball game ever. I really like this year's crop of baseball games, but I always wish that one game could have some features/gameplay/graphics of another added in. Forums like Operation Sports are great & I really hope that game developers are visiting these forums. But, there's only so much time in the day & if there was a focused group of people that could present a concise list of features desired by baseball diehards to a developer, then the developer could spend more time implementing those features. Or, does a group like this already exist?

Thanks,

[jawgee]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

Well Japanese developers are not looking to impress american baseball fans or capture American baseball.

Now I think all of you are going a little overboard and are thinking that japanese baseball videogames are the best. Sure it plays good and all, but american baseball games are just as good. So don't dismiss MVP,MLB 2K5, or MLB 2006. Just showing you all another baseball game.

Here's another Japanese baseball game last year from Namco:
Nechu Professional Baseball 2004

Looks like the MLB 2006 of Japanese baseball game,huh?

need windows media player for the link

Wow! Yet another really cool Japanese baseball game!!! I really love the "behind-the-pitcher" view. It actually looks like a TV-style presentation. I thought MLB 2006's BTP view was good this year, but this Nechu game blows it away!!

Not sure if I Iike the pitching meter & cursor, but the in between animations are so life-like. I cannot believe how far behind the MLB game developers are from their Japanese counterparts.

On a side note, an independent council needs to be formed to put together all of the best ideas & features from all of the different baseball past & present, & present them to a software developer to create the best baseball game ever. I really like this year's crop of baseball games, but I always wish that one game could have some features/gameplay/graphics of another added in. Forums like Operation Sports are great & I really hope that game developers are visiting these forums. But, there's only so much time in the day & if there was a focused group of people that could present a concise list of features desired by baseball diehards to a developer, then the developer could spend more time implementing those features. Or, does a group like this already exist?

Thanks,

[Drag66]

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How is Konami different than EA? They're both 3rd party software houses, right? From my understanding of the Take Two - MLB agreement, 3rd party developers such as EA & Konami are not allowed to make baseball using anything licensed by the MLB. They can still make non-MLB games, though. Console makers are still allowed to make MLB licensed games, though, which is very cool for MLB 2006 fans like me .

Thanks,
jawgee

Well, considering Konami's game deals solely with the Japenese league, if they released it in the US, it would not violate any agreements. The Take-Two deal just prohibits use of MLB teams and MLBPA players. Konami's game doesn't use anything licensed by MLB or the MLBPA. So Konami could realease it without any legal barriers.

[Drag66]

Re: Pro Yakyuu spirits 2 vs. MVP 2005

How is Konami different than EA? They're both 3rd party software houses, right? From my understanding of the Take Two - MLB agreement, 3rd party developers such as EA & Konami are not allowed to make baseball using anything licensed by the MLB. They can still make non-MLB games, though. Console makers are still allowed to make MLB licensed games, though, which is very cool for MLB 2006 fans like me .

Thanks,
jawgee

Well, considering Konami's game deals solely with the Japenese league, if they released it in the US, it would not violate any agreements. The Take-Two deal just prohibits use of MLB teams and MLBPA players. Konami's game doesn't use anything licensed by MLB or the MLBPA. So Konami could realease it without any legal barriers.