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  • mjb2124
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    • Aug 2002
    • 13649

    #91
    Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

    Originally posted by candyman56
    It would be nice if everyone respected each other, that's all.
    This is all I ask of everyone. I'll probably be the most visible mod in this forum and all I'm asking is for everyone to be considerate and respectful of everyone else's opinion. Thanks!!

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    • inkcil
      All Star
      • Jul 2002
      • 5253

      #92
      Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

      Originally posted by Erratic
      I forgot about the pitchers grabbing everything near them, but I just would have clumped that into diving fielders since it's all roughly the same thing but you are right... The other stuff you mentioned either didn't bother me (I mostly play online or against real people at home) or I didn't see/notice.

      As for the dives since you brought that up in the end, I think they tweaked it through their momentum implementation, so they won’t get to those "dive spots" as easily. But sure there are and will be diving catches. I just hope it's not with the same frequency as least year since that was my biggest gripe. We'll see...

      As for the animations I hardly notice them, people talking about the batter spinning his head and such, honestly when I hit the ball I am looking at the ball and deciding where I am running to, I don't know what my batters head is doing... That's just one example...
      I know what you mean. I don't want to seem like I am bashing the game. Like Candyman said, people here do want this game to suceed. I'm one of those people.

      One reason why is b/c I feel the game has tons of potential, and the other reason is selfish - I don't want to have to buy a whole extra gaming console just to play a good game of hardball. We'll see how it goes, I just hope this game is good.
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      • inkcil
        All Star
        • Jul 2002
        • 5253

        #93
        Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

        Originally posted by Rbear2k
        The series as a whole has had long enough to mature and should be since it is far older than MVP. If you are going to compare it to another baseball franchise based on how long it took them to get things close to right, then you'd be better served using MLB as a comparison. The difference is that the 2k/sega baseball/espn baseball franchise still has problems in really simple to fix areas like how the bats and gloves look. These were present in the very early versions and were not addressed. People can knock EA all they want, but at least when they realized that it was time to scrap the Tripple Play series and start from scratch they did what had to be done and I think all of us as sports gamers are better for it. They were able to leave a market and return to it with a better offering that vastly outplayed the competition in under 3 years. Compare this to the 2k series and it leaves much to be desired. I'm not saying that it is a bad game, but it's time to take it back to the drawing board and address problems that have lingered for way too long.

        Anyway, after this little rant, my point is that Kush shouldn't need 3 years nor should they get it, the series has had it's time to mature. The next generation of baseball gaming is here and the franchise has been around long enough for us gamers to expect a high quality offering and not just a rerun with some bells and whistles tacked on. I'm hoping that the 360 version of this game has been getting all the extra attention and a lot of problems have been fixed, but current gen versions don't hold too much promise.
        See, you are just about right on target. I hope ev'one considers your post.

        I posted a thread back in August about meeting a Take Two employee (at a Madden tournament of all places) who told me that 2k5 was built using a previous/older engine of World Series/2k baseball (prior to 2k4).

        So this game engine is really "older" than a lot of people think and they've had plenty of time to fix it. It wasn't scrapped and rebuilt from scratch like MVP was in comparison to Triple Play.
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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #94
          Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

          Originally posted by inkcil
          So this game engine is really "older" than a lot of people think and they've had plenty of time to fix it. It wasn't scrapped and rebuilt from scratch like MVP was in comparison to Triple Play.
          Although, last year's game touted "all new from the ground up" on all of it's ads...

          Here's hoping they can eventually get the little things right. I don't see why anyone wouldn't want this title to succeed. But early indications aren't promising, IMO.
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          • Rbear2k
            Rookie
            • Mar 2003
            • 107

            #95
            Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

            Originally posted by Pared
            Although, last year's game touted "all new from the ground up" on all of it's ads...

            Here's hoping they can eventually get the little things right. I don't see why anyone wouldn't want this title to succeed. But early indications aren't promising, IMO.
            Are you planning to do sliders for this one? If so, you might have a lot of work ahead of you. But you will be loved for it.

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            • CaptainZombie
              Brains
              • Jul 2003
              • 37851

              #96
              Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

              Originally posted by inkcil
              See, you are just about right on target. I hope ev'one considers your post.

              I posted a thread back in August about meeting a Take Two employee (at a Madden tournament of all places) who told me that 2k5 was built using a previous/older engine of World Series/2k baseball (prior to 2k4).

              So this game engine is really "older" than a lot of people think and they've had plenty of time to fix it. It wasn't scrapped and rebuilt from scratch like MVP was in comparison to Triple Play.
              Inkcil, I remember when you posted that last year about 2K5 being built around a previous engine before 2K4. I can't remember which engine it was that they used.

              I think that with 2K7 KUSH really needs to go back to the drawing board and build a new engine. I think that with such an excellent presentation the gameplay could really benefit. Yes, MVP was built from the ground up after all the criticism that they received for Triple Play 2002.

              At the time, World Series Baseball was really starting to hit it's stride that really made EA hit the panic button since their Triple Play series was really going down the tubes.
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              • LIGHTNING
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 1610

                #97
                Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

                MLB 2K5 was the first game developed by Kush. So they only had one year to fix everything NOT three years. It is not easy to learn all the code for a game you never developed and then make all the changes within one year and this is why last years game was disappointing. This is really year one since last year they had to become familar with the code.

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                • Rbear2k
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 107

                  #98
                  Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

                  Originally posted by LIGHTNING
                  MLB 2K5 was the first game developed by Kush. So they only had one year to fix everything NOT three years. It is not easy to learn all the code for a game you never developed and then make all the changes within one year and this is why last years game was disappointing. This is really year one since last year they had to become familar with the code.
                  Why did they need to waste time learning 5yr old code? They should be on yr2 of their own build, not a dated one. As it is there doesn't seem to be any indication that they will start their own iteration of the franchise, thus all this "wait 3 yrs" talk is pointless. In any case they haven't made the steps necessary to be optomistic for yr 3, but i'll hold off until i see what the 360 brings to the table. In my eyes we are in year 2 for Kush. They don't seem to have any problem learning the code since they put out another iteration of 2k5 later on in the year and then jumped right into developing 2k6 with the same engine. This being their 3rd game with the engine, your theory of them needing more time with the code to get things right doesn't seem to make a lot of sense IMO.

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                  • CaptainZombie
                    Brains
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 37851

                    #99
                    Re: IGN: POTD 3/3 - Cincy D

                    Originally posted by LIGHTNING
                    MLB 2K5 was the first game developed by Kush. So they only had one year to fix everything NOT three years. It is not easy to learn all the code for a game you never developed and then make all the changes within one year and this is why last years game was disappointing. This is really year one since last year they had to become familar with the code.
                    This is year 2, with 3 games under their belt.
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