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  • Scottdau
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 32580

    #91
    Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

    Originally posted by Knight165
    Well if you're going to watch any REAL Met telecasts....you'd better get used to it, the stadium will be getting worked on until AFTER the 2008 season(and you never know about construction delays)....so you'll see those cranes all season long as they will probably be using them to hoist the seating sections in one by one.

    ......and like I said earlier....by the time the cranes are out.....I should be finishing maybe my second season in the franchise and it will be time for the 2009 version of the game and I'll be playing IN Citifield....so..

    ...Pepsi/Coke right?

    M.K.
    Knight165

    Pepsi, is the choice right now for me. though I do like coke. Pepsi has a sweeter taste. We are going to see it difference Knight, but that is cool. I just think it will get tiring seeing the same thing every year, but I do agree I never even finish a season, so that is cool too. It is all good. I think the Stadiums in the 2k will be great too.

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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #92
      Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

      Originally posted by a4reak
      Outside of bltantly sarcastic, sarcasm can be hard to detect on forums
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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      • Fatalah
        Rookie
        • Jan 2007
        • 249

        #93
        Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

        Can we compare the size of the two competing dev teams?

        How big is 2K LA vs SCEA San Diego? Maybe the Show has a huge team. It seems like they've gotten so much work done over the last year. KushGamer said MLB2K8 contracted BlueCastle to finish tightening up some code.

        Not enough manpower?

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        • spankdatazz22
          All Star
          • May 2003
          • 6219

          #94
          Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

          Originally posted by Pared
          If you really want to step back and judge the situation, I'd say part of the reason "not many 2K8 guys run over there and nitpick'ed at The Show before a demo came out" is because they went out and bought a PS3 and are enjoying the demo.
          I didn't lol. And if this were the Madden forum, half the first page would be full of locked threads. There is a disproportionate amount of negativity being leveled in this thread than in The Show's forum, that's undeniable. Perhaps missing a background building or someone's stance being a couple inches off warrants everything being said among baseball fans (I'm a casual fan); to me the situation isn't unlike the GTA4/Saints Row 2 situation that's developed on various sites. Now that GTA's back, every other sandbox game has to suck. GTA4 likely will be the best sandbox game to date, but I don't see why GTA fans have to feel threatened that another game may do a certain something better. Nor do I understand why people want the two games to be the exact same experience.
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          • HealyMonster
            Titans Era has begun.
            • Aug 2002
            • 5992

            #95
            Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

            wow, 10 pages lol. i thought for sure this turned into a vivk vs young debate ha ha.

            on a serious note, if MLB the show didnt have citi field in the background i wouldnt mind mlb 2k not having it. i figure it would prob be too much drama for 1 year. the fact is the show does have it and im still playing in the same shea stadium as i did in mlb 2k6. it just hurts having to but this game when i want to buy the game that the developers went that extra mile on. unfortunatly i dont have a ps3 but the fact is, the show has citi and it makes me feel like they wanted 100% accuracy where as 2k doesnt have it and im not boycotting the game because of it but i feel they came up short.

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            • mjb2124
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 13649

              #96
              Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

              Originally posted by Fatalah
              Can we compare the size of the two competing dev teams?

              How big is 2K LA vs SCEA San Diego? Maybe the Show has a huge team. It seems like they've gotten so much work done over the last year. KushGamer said MLB2K8 contracted BlueCastle to finish tightening up some code.

              Not enough manpower?
              I don't think SCEA San Diego is that big either. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they're smaller than 2K.

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              • mjb2124
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 13649

                #97
                Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

                Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                There is a disproportionate amount of negativity being leveled in this thread than in The Show's forum, that's undeniable.
                I think the recent past has a lot to do with this. The Show was an excellent game last year and looks to be an excellent game this year. MLB2K6 and MLB2K7 weren't very good games. 2K7 was much improved from 2K6, but that isn't saying much IMO. Anyhow, I think many view the 2K baseball series with a lot of caution due to this. So small things get overblown because many worry that those small things are a sign of potentially larger issues with the game.

                At least that's the way I see it. It's kind of like in the football forums. Most people lavish the 2K football series with a ton of love (ie: The Show) while Madden is blasted for it's many issues (ie: The 2K series).

                That's the way I see it.

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                • Artman22
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 4985

                  #98
                  Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

                  Originally posted by Knight165
                  Well if you're going to watch any REAL Met telecasts....you'd better get used to it, the stadium will be getting worked on until AFTER the 2008 season(and you never know about construction delays)....so you'll see those cranes all season long as they will probably be using them to hoist the seating sections in one by one.

                  ......and like I said earlier....by the time the cranes are out.....I should be finishing maybe my second season in the franchise and it will be time for the 2009 version of the game and I'll be playing IN Citifield....so..

                  ...Pepsi/Coke right?

                  M.K.
                  Knight165
                  would it make u feel better seeing the mets choke with the new stadium in the backround??
                  NBA2K is the standard of sports games period.

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                  • Scottdau
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 32580

                    #99
                    Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

                    Originally posted by Art1bk
                    would it make u feel better seeing the mets choke with the new stadium in the backround??
                    Hm! That is funny. I wonder what team in the Majors has the biggest play role every year and haven't won a World Series in about 7 years? I also, wonder if that would be considering choking.

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                    • a4reak
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 1093

                      #100
                      Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

                      Originally posted by Scottd
                      Hm! That is funny. I wonder what team in the Majors has the biggest play role every year and haven't won a World Series in about 7 years? I also, wonder if that would be considering choking.
                      payroll does not guarantee championships, it guarantees playoffs. Too bad the Mets 120 mil did not work out for them

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                      • Scottdau
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 32580

                        #101
                        Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

                        Originally posted by a4reak
                        payroll does not guarantee championships, it guarantees playoffs. Too bad the Mets 120 mil did not work out for them
                        Tell that to George! Any ways I hope the Stadiums are good in 2k8.

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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #102
                          Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

                          Originally posted by Scottd
                          Hm! That is funny. I wonder what team in the Majors has the biggest play role every year and haven't won a World Series in about 7 years? I also, wonder if that would be considering choking.
                          Is this like:

                          "Grr, grr, grr! We are the Evil Empire here to destroy the leagues in Americas!" Steal on Pettite? All your base are belong to us!"

                          "But, big bad Evil Empire, we, the Small Markets, want to play too. Can we have your farm?

                          "I will defeat all that is small and in 2nd place. Wildcard? 3 and out. Road to Series in sights."

                          *Small Markets extends foot*
                          *Evil Empire trips*
                          *Evil Empire chokes on swarm of bugs*

                          Exit stage left field.



                          This show needs to retire like Cats.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • Scottdau
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 32580

                            #103
                            Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

                            Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                            Is this like:

                            "Grr, grr, grr! We are the Evil Empire here to destroy the leagues in Americas!" Steal on Pettite? All your base are belong to us!"

                            "But, big bad Evil Empire, we, the Small Markets, want to play too. Can we have your farm?

                            "I will defeat all that is small and in 2nd place. Wildcard? 3 and out. Road to Series in sights."

                            *Small Markets extends foot*
                            *Evil Empire trips*
                            *Evil Empire chokes on swarm of bugs*

                            Exit stage left field.

                            Not type O, it was might to say pay role, but I like your way too.



                            This show needs to retire like Cats.
                            Not type O, it was suppose to say pay role, but I like your way too.

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                            • spankdatazz22
                              All Star
                              • May 2003
                              • 6219

                              #104
                              Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

                              Originally posted by mjb2124
                              Anyhow, I think many view the 2K baseball series with a lot of caution due to this. So small things get overblown because many worry that those small things are a sign of potentially larger issues with the game.
                              Maybe it's because I'm only a casual baseball fan, but I don't get it. While 2K6 sucked, many people including myself thought 2K7 was a pretty good game. Or geez at least a decent game. I think it's safe to say 2K7 was a better baseball game than Live or Madden were basketball/football games respectively. And even then I don't know that people nitpicked those games to the level this game gets nitpicked.

                              I can understand how missing a background building structure may be a "sign of neglect" to some, but that's kinda pushing it imo. To my understanding both games aren't going to be exactly the same; one's going to have things the other doesn't. I've read people saying things like superstar players' stances being somewhat off - it's okay for that to be the case w/The Show, but not okay for 2K8? I've read people making a big deal about the minor league players/stadiums and the amount of detail/lack of detail; I haven't heard of minor league teams/stadiums being mentioned for The Show. I guess minor leagues are a big issue to some because they were in MVP. And I've seen people trying to compare how the minor leagues stack up to the real life minor league venues. If they aren't in The Show I could care less - but shouldn't that be factored in when people are talking leveling charges that 2K's lazy, did nothing from last year, or doesn't care? I'm really the last person to be speaking on baseball games, but things seem pretty disproportionate from my perspective.

                              I understand that The Show is a better game, and it shouldn't be expected that it's going to nail every aspect. So people aren't going to flip if the player models aren't perfect, or some other small issue. But it doesn't seem like there's some huge disparity between the games, as there is with the basketball games - at least at this point. But that means 2K8 deserves the nitpicked criticism because it rates a "B", and The Show rates an "A"? Or is it still payback for 2K6? Or exclusivity? I guess that's part of it too.

                              At least that's the way I see it. It's kind of like in the football forums. Most people lavish the 2K football series with a ton of love (ie: The Show) while Madden is blasted for it's many issues (ie: The 2K series).

                              That's the way I see it.
                              lol I can't count the number of people that say APF sucks. Read OS's reviews of both games and it's easy to see how differently both were approached from a review standpoint. APF was getting blasted way before it came out in part because it didn't have a franchise mode, or people couldn't customize it to make it a NFL game. Maybe you're talking about 2K5 - but when both 2K5 and Madden were out, it was debateable as to which one was better. 2K5's profile grew in part because of the exclusivity situation.

                              But since we're talking about Madden, I believe if 2K was being discussed in the Madden forum as much as The Show is discussed in this forum, it wouldn't last a page before getting locked. Not saying that that's what should occur here, because I feel the game's quality will likely speak for itself. But unless it does an absolutely stellar job presenting itself, I think it's going to get nailed. Strike zone seems to be an inch too high/low? So and so's batting stance isn't quite right (these are actors trying to mimic another person's movements, in most cases)? 2K8 missing a background building structure is enough to make someone purchase the other game? Again I can see where these issues collectively can make a person choose to purchase The Show - but is it really that perfect?

                              *I apologize to all for running at the mouth btw. I really shouldn't be making comments on something I know little about, but it's like everything being said is making the forum nearly unreadable
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                              • FocusYoMindOnDis
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 727

                                #105
                                Re: No CitiField at Shea Stadium in MLB 2K8

                                Im a Mets fan, i wanted to see Citifield in the background...or at least not the trees that are not there in real life...and maybe the train in the background...the 7 train is right there. Either way they are going to have to get it right sooner or later...at the very least as long as they have the Lets Go Mets chant correct, i'll be okay.
                                When you see it...you'll know what it is...

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