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  • mjb2124
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    • Aug 2002
    • 13649

    #241
    Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

    Originally posted by sleepytercel
    We have no idea the stage of the demo then.
    To the best of my knowledge, demo's are often cut about a month before release and then submitted to MS/Sony. So the rev of code is typically a little old and doesn't include finishing touches.

    IMO, any number of things could have occurred. 2K intentionally did not release a demo in early Feb because the game was not ready to go public (ie: they overshot their stated time frame). Or, 2K could have submitted the demo to MS/Sony and MS/Sony rejected it. Or, 2K never had any intention of releasing a demo until right before the game released. We'll never know for sure.

    I just don't know why Brinkman stated that the demo would be released in early February. I think it's pretty obvious at this point that the game was not ready at that time and he possibly overshot the mark. That's fine....it happens in business everyday, but he'd be better off not stating a time frame.

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    • mjb2124
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      • Aug 2002
      • 13649

      #242
      Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

      Originally posted by StormJH1
      All I'm saying is: If a game publisher isn't inclined to tell the truth about some things, why do you hang on their every word when they make assurances about how much better the gameplay will be?
      I've often wondered the same thing about those that "hang on the developers every word". We've seen instances of them lying or misrepresenting their game (all companies) and I've personally seen instances where some have created additional user accounts, without the purple developer title, to support their game.

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      • Ltrain44
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        • Feb 2004
        • 440

        #243
        Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

        well in the "on the spot" video brinkman rolls his eyes when asked about the demo. if you didnt see it then click this.

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        • roadman
          *ll St*r
          • Aug 2003
          • 26339

          #244
          Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

          Originally posted by mjb2124
          I've often wondered the same thing about those that "hang on the developers every word". We've seen instances of them lying or misrepresenting their game (all companies) and I've personally seen instances where some have created additional user accounts, without the purple developer title, to support their game.
          I might be hedging my bet, but I think people feel Brinkman turned around the Triple Play franchise to an amazing MVP game and might be hoping lightening strikes twice.

          Just a thought and theory.

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          • bowlerguy92
            MVP
            • Feb 2005
            • 1034

            #245
            Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

            Sigh, and another morning of disapointment .

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            • PVarck31
              Moderator
              • Jan 2003
              • 16869

              #246
              Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

              Originally posted by mjb2124
              I've often wondered the same thing about those that "hang on the developers every word". We've seen instances of them lying or misrepresenting their game (all companies) and I've personally seen instances where some have created additional user accounts, without the purple developer title, to support their game.
              Wow thats pretty messed up.

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              • roadman
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                • Aug 2003
                • 26339

                #247
                Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

                Originally posted by Ltrain44
                well in the "on the spot" video brinkman rolls his eyes when asked about the demo. if you didnt see it then click this.

                http://www.gamespot.com/video/0/6186...override=12656
                Looks like Gamespot edited that out. It was said in the beginning and I didn't hear it this time around. It appears they go right into the pitching.

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                • Mr.Wednesday
                  The Magic is back
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1927

                  #248
                  Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

                  Originally posted by roadman
                  Looks like Gamespot edited that out. It was said in the beginning and I didn't hear it this time around. It appears they go right into the pitching.
                  OK, thanks for the info. I watched the video when I got home yesterday. At the end they mentioned something about the demo, but I didn't see BB roll his eyes. If it was in the beginning then they definitely edited that part out.
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                  • alwayz0npoint
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 602

                    #249
                    Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

                    there is no ? the game looks promising will just wait untill the game comes out i can care less about the demo the game looks very impressive the gameplay thats all i care about

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                    • sleepytercel
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 605

                      #250
                      Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

                      Originally posted by mjb2124
                      To the best of my knowledge, demo's are often cut about a month before release and then submitted to MS/Sony. So the rev of code is typically a little old and doesn't include finishing touches.

                      IMO, any number of things could have occurred. 2K intentionally did not release a demo in early Feb because the game was not ready to go public (ie: they overshot their stated time frame). Or, 2K could have submitted the demo to MS/Sony and MS/Sony rejected it. Or, 2K never had any intention of releasing a demo until right before the game released. We'll never know for sure.

                      I just don't know why Brinkman stated that the demo would be released in early February. I think it's pretty obvious at this point that the game was not ready at that time and he possibly overshot the mark. That's fine....it happens in business everyday, but he'd be better off not stating a time frame.
                      To BB's credit, he carefully said that they "hope" to have it done and released by then. He never really did say that it WOULD be. People just jump conclusions without reading inbetween the lines.

                      Also, you are exactly right about anything could have happened. All of those scenerios could be a bump. Anyways, the demo will arrive soon and in less than a week, we'll get a good knowledge of the game.

                      I really wanted the demo, not because I want to see if it is a good game, but because I want to make the new mechanics a habit. I have to break away from how I've always played baseball games, and I believe that may take a little time.

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                      • ehh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28962

                        #251
                        Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

                        Originally posted by mjb2124
                        I've personally seen instances where some have created additional user accounts, without the purple developer title, to support their game.
                        LOL, that's amazing. Did you guys close those accounts?
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                        • porkchop
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 203

                          #252
                          Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

                          I dont think getting used to the mechanics will take that long, to be honest. I'm not worried about it. I'll jump right into my franchise and lose the first 12 games or so no problem
                          --
                          Russell_SCEA> It's not our job to make a reviewer do his homework and actually play the game to see all the changes, additions, and tweaks we make every year. If he/she is lazy that's on them not us.

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                          • Ltrain44
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 440

                            #253
                            Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

                            Originally posted by roadman
                            Looks like Gamespot edited that out. It was said in the beginning and I didn't hear it this time around. It appears they go right into the pitching.
                            It was at the very end of the interview. Watch it at the 21 minute mark. You will see it.
                            Last edited by Ltrain44; 02-29-2008, 12:10 PM.

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                            • roadman
                              *ll St*r
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 26339

                              #254
                              Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

                              Originally posted by Ltrain44
                              It was at the very end of the interview. Watch it at the 21 minute mark. You will see it.
                              Darn, I could have sworn it was at the beginning of the interview when I first saw it. Thanks for the tip.

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                              • Mr.Wednesday
                                The Magic is back
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 1927

                                #255
                                Re: Does anyone have official word on the demo?

                                Originally posted by Ltrain44
                                It was at the very end of the interview. Watch it at the 21 minute mark. You will see it.
                                I saw that. It wasn't very obvious to me. That could pass for his regular body language. I thought he just looked in another direction very quickly. He does it a few times in the interview. I guess I'm not as observant as others.
                                Last edited by Mr.Wednesday; 02-29-2008, 12:23 PM.
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