Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

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  • mjb2124
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 13649

    #256
    Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

    Originally posted by Williamz
    Then I strike out 16 and dont get the 15 k acheivment!!
    I'm pretty sure that's an achievement that you must get on Pro difficulty or higher. No slider tweaks. There are 3 achievements like that, but I can't recall what 3 they were. All of them state in the wording that they must be achieved on Pro difficulty or higher though.

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    • BigL
      Pro
      • Sep 2005
      • 612

      #257
      Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

      nnng, do you get a realistic amount of foul balls per game? If so, what are you doing? I hardly get any. I had one at bat a while back where the CPU batter fouled off about 5 in a row and I got really excited, but I hardly got anymore foul balls since lol

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      • nnng07
        Rookie
        • Jan 2007
        • 204

        #258
        Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

        BigL I'd say that I get perhaps 3 foul balls per half inning. That would be 3 each inning when I pitch and 3 more when I bat.

        I know that is below MLB average and I am still tinkering with turning contact further down, which marginally increases foul balls, noticeably increases swing-and-misses, and vastly decreases balls put in the field of play.

        At 30 for contact I get the aforementioned 3 foul balls hitting. With the CPU contact at 45, I get about the same --perhaps sacrificing a couple foul balls off the real MLB average-- with the goal of creating realistic strikeout totals.

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        • nnng07
          Rookie
          • Jan 2007
          • 204

          #259
          The Perfect Slider Set - Final Version - Max Difficulty

          For those looking for the newest edit to the max difficulty sliders, I have completed what I believe to be [for now at least lol] the final version of the max difficulty slider set. I have had these ready for two days now but delayed posting them to get a good feel of how they play out, and I am now very happy with where they are. They are season- or franchise- ready for those looking to start with the hardest settings possible but with realism still as the backbone. GOOD LUCK!



          General Settings

          Batter Contact: 30
          Batter Power: 15
          Batter Influence: 100
          Power Swing:
          10-15 *(personal preference)
          Step Influence: 10
          Pitcher Difficulty: 100
          Bunt Assistance: 25
          Bunt for Hit: 15
          Baserunner Speed: 100
          Runner Steal Success:
          55
          Infielder Errors: 70
          Outfielder Errors:
          75
          Infielder Speed: 20
          Outfielder Speed: 45

          Catcher Throw Speed: 0
          Infielder Throw Speed: 0
          Outfielder Throw Speed: 0

          Infielder Reaction Speed: 20
          Outfielder Reaction Speed: 35

          Speed Burst Length: 0
          Speed Burst Power: 0
          Fielder Aggression: 0
          Pitcher Fatigue: 35
          Pitcher Interface Speed: 100
          Injuries: 65
          Pitch Speed:
          65-75 *(personal preference)


          A.I. General Options

          Infielder Errors: 70
          Outfielder Errors: 75
          Infielder Speed: 20
          Outfielder Speed: 45
          Catcher Throw Speed: 0
          Infielder Throw Speed: 0
          Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
          Fielder Aggression: 0
          Throwing Aggression: 65
          Hit and Run: 100
          Sacrifice Bunt: 60
          Squeeze Bunt: 35
          Runner Aggression: 60
          Steal Success: 55
          Steal Second: 60
          Steal Third: 30
          Steal Home: 5
          Diveback:
          100

          A.I. Batting Options

          AI Batters use Inside Edge:ON
          Take Strike Overall: 60
          Take Strike Ahead: 65
          Take Strike Behind:45
          Take Ball Overall: 65
          Take Ball Ahead: 70
          Take Ball Behind: 60
          Skill: 100
          Contact: 45
          Power:
          50
          Bunt for Hit: 40
          Pitcher Difficulty: 0
          Pitcher Effectiveness Mod:
          100

          AI Pitching Options

          Pitchers use Inside Edge: ON
          Corner: 50
          Change Speed: 75
          Throw Strike Overall: 40
          Throw Strike Ahead: 40
          Throw Strike Behind: 40
          Pitcher Fatigue: 50
          Pickoff:
          30
          Pitchout: 55
          Meat Pitch: 0

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          • ProStylez
            Goon Squad
            • Oct 2006
            • 1988

            #260
            Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

            Originally posted by nnng07
            Ummm can you try out the slider set that this thread is based on before badmouthing people's efforts?

            Each set is for individual difficulty. X-Cell's is fine-tuned to work perfectly for him. Obviously it won't be the same for everyone. Apparently his set doesn't work for you.

            Well try something else. Try one of the two sets I've posted in this thread. See if that works. Try other people's sets. Or start with one of these sets and tweak it to your liking.

            But just because you happened to strike 16 Braves batters out (that got perfect gamed by a 40-year old a couple years ago, mind you), and you did it with the most consistantly dominant NL pitcher of the last five years, it doesn't mean that someone's slider set is 'getting crazy'.
            I'm not bashing anyones work, it's just funny that all these new sets that keep poping up somehow seem to screw something up while doing something else really good. This is not the first set I've tried either, I've tried them all with Heels being the first because I believe he had the first set out. I think I just am getting fed up with tweaking sliders.....give me something playable out the box dammmit.

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            • nnng07
              Rookie
              • Jan 2007
              • 204

              #261
              Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

              Williamz, try the sliders I just posted. If you don't consider yourself 'advanced' enough, tune down some of the AI settings like SKILL, or you PITCHER EFFECTIVENESS MOD, and then adjust your contact/power according to how you play.

              If you have played 50+ 2K7 games, try the sliders as I've posted them and let me know if you can still strike out the CPU 15 times.


              EDIT: Just so it doesn't get lost, I'm reposting this here.

              General Settings

              Batter Contact: 30
              Batter Power: 15
              Batter Influence: 100
              Power Swing:
              10-15 *(personal preference)
              Step Influence: 10
              Pitcher Difficulty: 100
              Bunt Assistance: 25
              Bunt for Hit: 15
              Baserunner Speed: 100
              Runner Steal Success:
              55
              Infielder Errors: 70
              Outfielder Errors:
              75
              Infielder Speed: 20
              Outfielder Speed: 45

              Catcher Throw Speed: 0
              Infielder Throw Speed: 0
              Outfielder Throw Speed: 0

              Infielder Reaction Speed: 20
              Outfielder Reaction Speed: 35

              Speed Burst Length: 0
              Speed Burst Power: 0
              Fielder Aggression: 0
              Pitcher Fatigue: 35
              Pitcher Interface Speed: 100
              Injuries: 65
              Pitch Speed:
              65-75 *(personal preference)

              A.I. General Options

              Infielder Errors: 70
              Outfielder Errors: 75
              Infielder Speed: 20
              Outfielder Speed: 45
              Catcher Throw Speed: 0
              Infielder Throw Speed: 0
              Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
              Fielder Aggression: 0
              Throwing Aggression: 65
              Hit and Run: 100
              Sacrifice Bunt: 60
              Squeeze Bunt: 35
              Runner Aggression: 60
              Steal Success: 55
              Steal Second: 60
              Steal Third: 30
              Steal Home: 5
              Diveback:
              100

              A.I. Batting Options

              AI Batters use Inside Edge:ON
              Take Strike Overall: 60
              Take Strike Ahead: 65
              Take Strike Behind:45
              Take Ball Overall: 65
              Take Ball Ahead: 70
              Take Ball Behind: 60
              Skill: 100
              Contact: 45
              Power:
              50
              Bunt for Hit: 40
              Pitcher Difficulty: 0
              Pitcher Effectiveness Mod:
              100

              AI Pitching Options

              Pitchers use Inside Edge: ON
              Corner: 50
              Change Speed: 75
              Throw Strike Overall: 40
              Throw Strike Ahead: 40
              Throw Strike Behind: 40
              Pitcher Fatigue: 50
              Pickoff:
              30
              Pitchout: 55
              Meat Pitch: 0
              Last edited by nnng07; 03-23-2007, 01:02 PM. Reason: Added the sliders..

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              • SportGamer24
                Pro
                • Dec 2002
                • 783

                #262
                Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                can anyone refresh me on what batter influence does and its affect when you increase or decrease the slider???

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                • ProStylez
                  Goon Squad
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1988

                  #263
                  Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                  Originally posted by nnng07
                  Williamz, try the sliders I just posted. If you don't consider yourself 'advanced' enough, tune down some of the AI settings like SKILL, or you PITCHER EFFECTIVENESS MOD, and then adjust your contact/power according to how you play.

                  If you have played 50+ 2K7 games, try the sliders as I've posted them and let me know if you can still strike out the CPU 15 times.


                  EDIT: Just so it doesn't get lost, I'm reposting this here.

                  General Settings

                  Batter Contact: 30
                  Batter Power: 15
                  Batter Influence: 100
                  Power Swing:
                  10-15 *(personal preference)
                  Step Influence: 10
                  Pitcher Difficulty: 100
                  Bunt Assistance: 25
                  Bunt for Hit: 15
                  Baserunner Speed: 100
                  Runner Steal Success:
                  55
                  Infielder Errors: 70
                  Outfielder Errors:
                  75
                  Infielder Speed: 20
                  Outfielder Speed: 45

                  Catcher Throw Speed: 0
                  Infielder Throw Speed: 0
                  Outfielder Throw Speed: 0

                  Infielder Reaction Speed: 20
                  Outfielder Reaction Speed: 35

                  Speed Burst Length: 0
                  Speed Burst Power: 0
                  Fielder Aggression: 0
                  Pitcher Fatigue: 35
                  Pitcher Interface Speed: 100
                  Injuries: 65
                  Pitch Speed:
                  65-75 *(personal preference)

                  A.I. General Options

                  Infielder Errors: 70
                  Outfielder Errors: 75
                  Infielder Speed: 20
                  Outfielder Speed: 45
                  Catcher Throw Speed: 0
                  Infielder Throw Speed: 0
                  Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
                  Fielder Aggression: 0
                  Throwing Aggression: 65
                  Hit and Run: 100
                  Sacrifice Bunt: 60
                  Squeeze Bunt: 35
                  Runner Aggression: 60
                  Steal Success: 55
                  Steal Second: 60
                  Steal Third: 30
                  Steal Home: 5
                  Diveback:
                  100

                  A.I. Batting Options

                  AI Batters use Inside Edge:ON
                  Take Strike Overall: 60
                  Take Strike Ahead: 65
                  Take Strike Behind:45
                  Take Ball Overall: 65
                  Take Ball Ahead: 70
                  Take Ball Behind: 60
                  Skill: 100
                  Contact: 45
                  Power:
                  50
                  Bunt for Hit: 40
                  Pitcher Difficulty: 0
                  Pitcher Effectiveness Mod:
                  100

                  AI Pitching Options

                  Pitchers use Inside Edge: ON
                  Corner: 50
                  Change Speed: 75
                  Throw Strike Overall: 40
                  Throw Strike Ahead: 40
                  Throw Strike Behind: 40
                  Pitcher Fatigue: 50
                  Pickoff:
                  30
                  Pitchout: 55
                  Meat Pitch: 0
                  I will try them when I get a chance. The pitcher difficulty at 100 is the reason why I thought the computer couldnt hit me. At some point I start feeling like certain things would not have happened if sliders were not set a certain way. It feels like I'm playing a bunch of sliders rather than a actual team, make any sense?? Yours look good, I will try em.

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                  • GP Mercy
                    Pro
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 839

                    #264
                    Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                    I'll try to give these a run tonight. If I do, Ill use the CHC vs. CWS.

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                    • ProStylez
                      Goon Squad
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1988

                      #265
                      Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                      Hey yo nnng is this correct???? Pitcher Difficulty: 0
                      Why at 0 now for the A.I??

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                      • highheatkingsb
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 8152

                        #266
                        Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                        Originally posted by nnng07
                        Williamz, try the sliders I just posted. If you don't consider yourself 'advanced' enough, tune down some of the AI settings like SKILL, or you PITCHER EFFECTIVENESS MOD, and then adjust your contact/power according to how you play.

                        If you have played 50+ 2K7 games, try the sliders as I've posted them and let me know if you can still strike out the CPU 15 times.


                        EDIT: Just so it doesn't get lost, I'm reposting this here.

                        General Settings

                        Batter Contact: 30
                        Batter Power: 15
                        Batter Influence: 100
                        Power Swing:
                        10-15 *(personal preference)
                        Step Influence: 10
                        Pitcher Difficulty: 100
                        Bunt Assistance: 25
                        Bunt for Hit: 15
                        Baserunner Speed: 100
                        Runner Steal Success:
                        55
                        Infielder Errors: 70
                        Outfielder Errors:
                        75
                        Infielder Speed: 20
                        Outfielder Speed: 45

                        Catcher Throw Speed: 0
                        Infielder Throw Speed: 0
                        Outfielder Throw Speed: 0

                        Infielder Reaction Speed: 20
                        Outfielder Reaction Speed: 35

                        Speed Burst Length: 0
                        Speed Burst Power: 0
                        Fielder Aggression: 0
                        Pitcher Fatigue: 35
                        Pitcher Interface Speed: 100
                        Injuries: 65
                        Pitch Speed:
                        65-75 *(personal preference)

                        A.I. General Options

                        Infielder Errors: 70
                        Outfielder Errors: 75
                        Infielder Speed: 20
                        Outfielder Speed: 45
                        Catcher Throw Speed: 0
                        Infielder Throw Speed: 0
                        Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
                        Fielder Aggression: 0
                        Throwing Aggression: 65
                        Hit and Run: 100
                        Sacrifice Bunt: 60
                        Squeeze Bunt: 35
                        Runner Aggression: 60
                        Steal Success: 55
                        Steal Second: 60
                        Steal Third: 30
                        Steal Home: 5
                        Diveback:
                        100

                        A.I. Batting Options

                        AI Batters use Inside Edge:ON
                        Take Strike Overall: 60
                        Take Strike Ahead: 65
                        Take Strike Behind:45
                        Take Ball Overall: 65
                        Take Ball Ahead: 70
                        Take Ball Behind: 60
                        Skill: 100
                        Contact: 45
                        Power:
                        50
                        Bunt for Hit: 40
                        Pitcher Difficulty: 0
                        Pitcher Effectiveness Mod:
                        100

                        AI Pitching Options

                        Pitchers use Inside Edge: ON
                        Corner: 50
                        Change Speed: 75
                        Throw Strike Overall: 40
                        Throw Strike Ahead: 40
                        Throw Strike Behind: 40
                        Pitcher Fatigue: 50
                        Pickoff:
                        30
                        Pitchout: 55
                        Meat Pitch: 0
                        Hey nnng, my sliders are producing the same game for me over and over again, scoreless through the first 3 innings, then bam, the cpu hits a homerun or two. I'm going to give these a go, before I do though, is step influence supposed to be at 10 or 100? It's harder to hit at 100 right?
                        Highheat's O's Franchise
                        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...l-attempt.html

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                        • mjb2124
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13649

                          #267
                          Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                          Originally posted by Williamz
                          Hey yo nnng is this correct???? Pitcher Difficulty: 0
                          Why at 0 now for the A.I??
                          That's user pitcher difficulty that's set to 0. So the stats don't have as much affect on the user pitching as the user does.

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                          • nnng07
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 204

                            #268
                            Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                            Originally posted by highheatkingsb
                            Hey nnng, my sliders are producing the same game for me over and over again, scoreless through the first 3 innings, then bam, the cpu hits a homerun or two. I'm going to give these a go, before I do though, is step influence supposed to be at 10 or 100? It's harder to hit at 100 right?
                            The step influence is turned down to 10 b/c in my mind it becomes too easy to perfect with practice. With influence at 75 (which I tried over a number of games) I found myself always putting the bat on the ball as long as I 'stepped' at the right time. Since most major-leaguers have perfect step timing, and since the actual step doesn't have that much influence on the ability to make contact with an upcoming pitch, I've accordingly turned down this slider to 10.

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                            • nnng07
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 204

                              #269
                              Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                              Originally posted by mjb2124
                              That's user pitcher difficulty that's set to 0. So the stats don't have as much affect on the user pitching as the user does.
                              Right. The idea behind the slider setting being at 0 is so that the CPU doesn't give us an extra boost for having Johan out there, leaving us to dominate because we make good use of his repetoire, not because the game decides "nobody can hit Johan".

                              Now, I don't suggest putting this setting at 0 for most gamers. That will not create the most realistic gameplay if you do not have a lot of experience with 2K7 (unless you call getting shelled all day realistic). So before you set it all the way down to 0, start warming up your relievers. :wink:

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                              • jake44np
                                Post Like a Champion!
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 9563

                                #270
                                Re: Creating **The 'PERFECT' Slider Set**

                                The "new" set that you posted are unrealistic in my opinion. I played about 5 games with them over the weekend and the cpu hits way too many hrs. Last night I was the Reds vs the Brewers and the Brew Crew hit 9 hrs off of me. I was dominating with your other sliders 10-1 in my season with the Reds but with these I can not pitch at all.
                                ND Season Ticket Holder since '72.

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