The OS Breakdown of the 2K Slider Theory

[DIESEL]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

The CPU is just throwing strikes. More strikes than balls from what I've seen. About 70/30. I'm really believing this is a rating problem that can't be fixed by sliders, even with them all @ 0

I've been playing pretty much default all star with the exception of lowering all the AI throw strikes sliders down to 0. I left the corner and change speed at default and I am seeing plenty of balls.

My last game I got 3 walks in the first 2 innings of Jeff Francis of the Rockies before I knocked him out with a line drive.

I think I ended up with 6 walks total for the game and I would consider myself an overly aggressive hitter. Changing the batter view has helped me a lot in picking up pitches out of the strike zone and taking more balls.

With a few other minor tweaks on default all-star I am getting great results and pitch counts.

[GTR34]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Hey man, just played a game with your sliders, with the 50 Pitcher Difficulty and bumped the outfield ratings by 10 as another member mentioned he thought they were a bit slow.

CWS 1-3-1
KC 3-7-0

My only run came off a Crede homer in the 5th, whereas the Royals scored 1 in the 2nd off a throwing error by Dye back into the infield letting the man take 2nd, and then on the very next pitch advanced to 3rd on a passed ball, scoring on a sac-fly.

Then they tag me once in the 5th and 6th with homers, one coming off the foul pole!

Needless to say, I'm still pretty bad at BATTING. I have a pretty good grasp with pitching, as in all the games I've played thus far I've never allowed more than 5 runs. The batting is still what's hurting me....

Anyways, back to your sliders. I like these a lot. I of course don't mind losing, but as long as its in a relative realistic and fun way then I'll keep fighting. My one suggestion would be to maybe lower infield reaction more, as I counted at least 5 plays where the SS and 3rd baseman made some crazy dives to prevent the ball going in for a hit.

I'll lower them on my end, play 5 games without changing a thing, and I'll report back.

And out of curiosity, why would you turn off the replays/cutscenes/ect? That's one of the best parts of the game!! As long as you do the Sign Out thing, the game runs fine.

Thanks again for posting your set of sliders. Had much fun

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

I've been playing pretty much default all star with the exception of lowering all the AI throw strikes sliders down to 0. I left the corner and change speed at default and I am seeing plenty of balls.

My last game I got 3 walks in the first 2 innings of Jeff Francis of the Rockies before I knocked him out with a line drive.

I think I ended up with 6 walks total for the game and I would consider myself an overly aggressive hitter. Changing the batter view has helped me a lot in picking up pitches out of the strike zone and taking more balls.

With a few other minor tweaks on default all-star I am getting great results and pitch counts.

I will check this-out..

[Mr.Wednesday]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

I don't know if anyone wants to try this out. I just took bits and pieces from Joe's sliders and kept the sliders that were working for me the same.

As far as the ball/strikes ratio, I have been getting pretty good results. I have AI corner, AI throw strikes, AI throw strikes ahead at 0, I put the AI throw strikes behind at 15. And AI change speed at 55. The hitting is at default.

But I noticed good pitchers are not going to throw that many balls. I think Joe is right. It's a ratings issue. I've played against the number 5 starter the last three games and they throw a lot of pitches out of the zone. If an upper tier reliever comes in, I get mostly strikes again.

[Hoos]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Thanks for the info. I was hoping it wouldn't be rating's based.
Hopefully this might be able to be addressed when they issue the framerate patch.

I have a question relative to individual player ratings. Are we able to modify the default 2K assigned ratings for players this year??? I might do some testing in the morning by changing some individual pitcher ratings that may have an impact on control and see what happens.

This question has probably been answered many times over across these boards but for me it applies to this game and the effort to generate more CPU pitches out of the zone.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Well it looks like DIESEL was right. Did see a lot more balls with his suggestion. I think once you change the Batting Sliders Human/AI something weird around CPU Pitcher happens where the really just strikes in all areas of the zone even with all the AI Pitch sliders @ 0.

A couple of more test is needed for a confirmation. If I keep seeing what I'm seeing I'm gonna delete this thread & create another-1 with just minor Human/AI Pitching changes.

I'm also very surprised how well this game plays OTB

[jerk]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

hey joe just tried the sliders and was able to get 4 walks off john lackey, so far I'm liking these.

[Kramer5150]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

hey joe just tried the sliders and was able to get 4 walks off john lackey, so far I'm liking these.

Are you talking about the ones Diesel recommended on allstar?
If so....I may have to give these a go tomorrow.

[Hoos]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

I've been playing pretty much default all star with the exception of lowering all the AI throw strikes sliders down to 0. I left the corner and change speed at default and I am seeing plenty of balls.

My last game I got 3 walks in the first 2 innings of Jeff Francis of the Rockies before I knocked him out with a line drive.

I think I ended up with 6 walks total for the game and I would consider myself an overly aggressive hitter. Changing the batter view has helped me a lot in picking up pitches out of the strike zone and taking more balls.

With a few other minor tweaks on default all-star I am getting great results and pitch counts.

What batting camera do you use Diesel ??

[jerk]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Are you talking about the ones Diesel recommended on allstar?
If so....I may have to give these a go tomorrow.

The ones joe first posted

[ulua]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

I think it was DIESEL who suggested to change the batter view
to WIDE I think, if it was someone else sorry, any way I tried
it and it made a big difference in the CPU throwing more balls,
because i'm an aggresive swinger I swing at anything this view has helped me to be more seletive in what pitches to swing at. this view alows me to see the ball much better

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Good Morning everyone. I have taken some of the suggestion & changed a few sliders. Nothing changed for Hitting & Pitching. Most changes were to Speed & Baserunning:

HUMAN Changes:

Runner Stealing Success: 65
Infielder Speed: 20
Outfielder Speed: 40
Infielder Reaction Speed: 10
Outfielder Reaction Speed: 10

AI Changes:

AI Infielder Speed: 20
AI Outfielder Speed: 40
Infielder Reaction Speed: 10
Outfielder Reaction Speed: 10


I may move-up the both Human & AI Steal Sliders due to not seeing the AI Steal & even with decent base-stealers I haven't stolen-1 yet...

[Hoos]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Good Morning everyone. I have taken some of the suggestion & changed a few sliders. Nothing changed for Hitting & Pitching. Most changes were to Speed & Baserunning:

HUMAN Changes:

Runner Stealing Success: 65
Infielder Speed: 40
Outfielder Speed: 40
Infielder Reaction Speed: 10
Outfielder Reaction Speed: 10

AI Changes:

AI Infielder Speed: 40
AI Outfielder Speed: 40
Infielder Reaction Speed: 10
Outfielder Reaction Speed: 10


I may move-up the both Human & AI Steal Sliders due to not seeing the AI Steal & even with decent base-stealers I haven't stolen-1 yet...

In regards to the stealing issue, someone brought up a point earlier in this thread about the pitch speed having a direct impact on stealing success. The faster the pitch gets to the plate, the faster the throw to the base trying to get the base runner; therefore, less stealing success. Makes sense.....

Your pitch speed is set to 65 so maybe a slower speed???

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

In regards to the stealing issue, someone brought up a point earlier in this thread about the pitch speed having a direct impact on stealing success. The faster the pitch gets to the plate, the faster the throw to the base trying to get the base runner; therefore, less stealing success. Makes sense.....

Your speed is set to 65 so maybe a slower speed???

Missed that-1... I will test this with pitch speed @ 50

[therizing02]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

I have been using something similar to your sliders Joe and they are working pretty well.

I would recommend that everyone lower the pitching speed to the point where you can easily identify pitches that are completely out of the zone. This has helped me go deep into counts against some pitchers. As your discipline improves, move the slider up.

The CPU WILL throw the ball out of the zone. I'm drawing about 3 walks per game, but could probably draw more with better discipline. I faced Pedro last night with the Phils and he was incredible through three innings changing speeds and hitting spots. When we went to the middle innings he started missing spots and I actually was able to draw 3 walks from him. VEry encouraging IMO.

I also played a game as the Tribe against the Red Sox. Lester started and was pulled in the 3rd after getting injured. He was pitching well to that point. The Sox brought in Lopez and over the course of his 3.2 innings of relief he threw 62 pitches of which 30 were strikes.

I have all of the Throw strike sliders at 0 and the change speed slider at 65.