BFJ Presents: OS "Boys of Summer" Custom All-Star Sliders

[daz]

Re: BFJ Presents: OS "Boys of Summer" Custom All-Star Sliders

Q, are you seeing the AI getting more doubles in the gap, than usual? I'm seeing this a lot. Last game I played the AI had 7 doubles. All in the gaps. It's like he AI magically finds the gap @ will

Joe, I'm seeing doubles out of the wazoo! The AI finds the gap or hits over the outfielder's head. I'm stuck on how to fix this.

[redsox4ever]

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Bahnzo, I'm starting to believe that once in Franchise the Sliders take a life of their own. Especially now since the PATCH. In exhibition games, my games are fun & competitive, so I create a Chise & get slaughtered in the 1st 2 games big-time. WEIRD

That #@$%##@ Skill Slider is driving me nuts. It really seems like there's no middle ground with it. It's either set it to 0 or set-it to 100. I think I have Fielding & Pitching right where they should be, I just can't find a set for Hitting that I'm comfortable with..

I am feeling the same way the hitting is still off. When i set the sliders the way you have them i have a hard time getting hits but when i turn the skill up 1 to 26 i am seeing too many hits. I am going nuts trying to find the answer that best fits the missing peice of this puzzle. Please keep working at it i think in time we'll find the right set for human hitting. I pitched wakefield against the tigers with your sliders and i felt it was a bit too tough to get them out. cabrerra hits solid shots mostly for homers against him no matter how good i change speeds and location. Pretty much the whole tigers team owns wakefield. AI offense might be a bit too powerful.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Bahnzo, Your lower skill= higher power theory is something that I have been testing. We threw this theory around last year. The catch was the contact slider needed to be lower than the power slider.

The theory also was that the skill, contact & power had to add-up to 100. Unfortunately then we found out that wouldn't work due to the power slider being broken. This year though that theory may just work..

EX:

AI Skill: 5
AI Contact: 30
AI Power: 65

[Bahnzo]

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Bahnzo, Your lower skill= higher power theory is something that I have been testing. We threw this theory around last year. The catch was the contact slider needed to be lower than the power slider.

Actually what I meant was that as you up the power, you need to lower the skill. Not that skill should be lower than power, in fact I think that's the opposite for this years game. So as you adjust and try to find your sweet spot, any time you up your power setting a notch, you generally need to lower the skill a few notches.

I don't think the contact has any more effect than missing when you swing..ie: there's no better quality of the contact when you do hit the ball. That's if you believe what the slider information states anyways. When I was doing all that testing with my sliders, I never noticed any harder or better hit balls depending on what the contact was set at (for AI or Human). So I guess what I'm saying is that I feel the contact is independent of the power+skill.

[Quotashun]

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Q, are you seeing the AI getting more doubles in the gap, than usual? I'm seeing this a lot. Last game I played the AI had 7 doubles. All in the gaps. It's like he AI magically finds the gap @ will

at first, yeah. but i guess i've adapted to the new pitching sliders over my last 10 or so franchise games, and they're hitting the gaps at a normal rate. you keeping your pitches down for the most part?

[Johnny Whoremoan]

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I'm pretty much a lurker on these boards and I must say; these sliders produce some of the most realistic game stats I've seen.

I've played about 12 games with the sliders and for the most part, I'm really happy with them.

There's a few things that I think I need to get used to though before starting an official franchise with these sliders.

I know the common word used when dealing with the AI pitching is "patience", but it really seems these sliders leave no room for that. The strike zones seem to be awfully big for the CPU and I've only been walked twice in the dozen games I've played. I'm seeing alot of fastballs outside the zone called for strikes and the computer has the uncanny ability of hitting the corners with almost every pitch.

My team is in last place in terms of batting average with guys like Reyes, Beltran, Wright, and Delgado hitting below .200.

I'm thinking about lowering all the throw strike sliders for the CPU AI down to 0. I know when I was using that I was drawing a fair share of walks while keeping the offense challenging.

Another thing, I use classic pitching and am racking up K's with relative ease. I mean, I've lost 7 out of those 12 games with the largest margin being 2 runs. My rotation has gotten an average of 8-11 K's in each of their respective starts. If I raise the pitcher's difficulty, will that make things a little more challenging? I know I myself have only walked three, maybe four batters in 12 games.

Overall, great sliders.

Keep up the good work.

[Johnny Whoremoan]

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Oh, and a bit of a tip on how to keep the sliders as Custom-A in your franchise:

Raise them to 100 before making the appropriate changes. I've never had a problem keeping them at Custom-A when adjusting them as so.

Hope it works for you guys as well.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Hey Johnny glad your enjoying the sliders. For your offense try lower Step Influence to 10. Also drop the Pitcher Difficulty to 50 Also since your using Classic Pitching raise the TCP Slider higher.

Speaking of TCP Slider, I think this is the slider that helps offset the AI Skill slider when using the Total Control Pitching Interface. It looks like the lower you set-it the less the AI magically finds the gaps & their hits don't come in bunches as usual.

I also notice that the gestures register a lot better. Might be onto something here.

[daz]

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Hey Johnny glad your enjoying the sliders. For your offense try lower Step Influence to 10. Also drop the Pitcher Difficulty to 50 Also since your using Classic Pitching raise the TCP Slider higher.

Speaking of TCP Slider, I think this is the slider that helps offset the AI Skill slider when using the Total Control Pitching Interface. It looks like the lower you set-it the less the AI magically finds the gaps & their hits don't come in bunches as usual.

I also notice that the gestures register a lot better. Might be onto something here.

I've been thinking this for some time myself. When I think the offense has been generating too much offense I'll lower my TCP slider about 5 points and it seems to balance things out without giving too much pinpoint control. At the same time it seems to lessen some of the seeing eye dog hits that just kill me.
Now if I could learn to hit with your sliders. After trying about all the sliders on this board, I've come full circle to your sliders again. I'm loving them, though I'm getting killed with hitting. The pitch speed is a tad too slow for my liking, so I've upped that to 60 and I've lowered the step influence to 15 as you suggested to another poster. That has helped a bit. I actually scored 4 runs, but lost nonetheless. I think the pitcher difficulty and change speed sliders really make hitting tough in combination with the human hitting sliders (how's that for overstating the obvious?).

[bigfnjoe96]

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I've been thinking this for some time myself. When I think the offense has been generating too much offense I'll lower my TCP slider about 5 points and it seems to balance things out without giving too much pinpoint control. At the same time it seems to lessen some of the seeing eye dog hits that just kill me.
Now if I could learn to hit with your sliders. After trying about all the sliders on this board, I've come full circle to your sliders again. I'm loving them, though I'm getting killed with hitting. The pitch speed is a tad too slow for my liking, so I've upped that to 60 and I've lowered the step influence to 15 as you suggested to another poster. That has helped a bit. I actually scored 4 runs, but lost nonetheless. I think the pitcher difficulty and change speed sliders really make hitting tough in combination with the human hitting sliders (how's that for overstating the obvious?).

Daz, try lowering the Pitcher Difficulty Slider to 50. This should help-out your Offense a little. As for the TCP Slider I think dropping it to 25 & working your way UP if it seems like your dominating is the best way to go.

I'm just about set in changing the TCP Slider(25) & Pitcher Difficulty(50). These changes feel real good to me without having to sacrifice the AI Hitting Sliders

[Bahnzo]

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Speaking of TCP Slider, I think this is the slider that helps offset the AI Skill slider when using the Total Control Pitching Interface. It looks like the lower you set-it the less the AI magically finds the gaps & their hits don't come in bunches as usual.

I also notice that the gestures register a lot better. Might be onto something here.

Try this: go into the pitching tutorial and fill the meter as far as you normally do when pitching. Notice the "effectiveness" score that's listed. Then, up the TCP slider (or lower it if you have it really high) and then do the same thing. You'll notice there's a difference. I play with my TCP set at 85, and about 35-40% effectiveness is all I can get even if I fill the meter. I'd have to guess this is why the AI doesn't hit as well with TCP set low, your pitchers are "better" (besides being better able to spot the ball).

[Johnny Whoremoan]

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I'm still having problems with strikeouts on both ends.

I'm still striking out the AI on a consistent basis and I can't seem to hit the ball to save my life.

I've got Oliver Perez with 10ks through 6 innings and Andrew Miller has 7.

It's funny how some sliders give you HR fest and now I seem to be stuck in SO city.

[Johnny Whoremoan]

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So, in 10 innings, Oliver Perez capped off his no-hitter with 20 strike outs.

Andrew Miller ended up with 11 and I won the game with a pitch in the dirt that got passed the catcher, allowing Delgado to score from 3rd.

Exciting finish, but would've been great had there been even the slightest bit of offense.

[DanSF49]

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The theory also was that the skill, contact & power had to add-up to 100. Unfortunately then we found out that wouldn't work due to the power slider being broken. This year though that theory may just work

BigJoe, I still believe in this theory with this game, I think Skill, Contact and Power need to add up to 100 even if one of those sliders is at 0 as long as they add up to 100. So as an example they could be Skill-0, Contact-90, Power 10. But what I'm going to try is putting Skill -0, Contact 85, Power 15 with TCP at 100. This way they have 0 at skill but im offsetting that with TCP at 100, so I can't throw perfect pitches everytime. I'm going to test this theory during my lunch break and let you know how it works out.

[bigfnjoe96]

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BigJoe, I still believe in this theory with this game, I think Skill, Contact and Power need to add up to 100 even if one of those sliders is at 0 as long as they add up to 100. So as an example they could be Skill-0, Contact-90, Power 10. But what I'm going to try is putting Skill -0, Contact 85, Power 15 with TCP at 100. This way they have 0 at skill but im offsetting that with TCP at 100, so I can't throw perfect pitches everytime. I'm going to test this theory during my lunch break and let you know how it works out.

Look forward to seeing your results.. BTW Dan I've noticed the Sliders play differently from exhibition & franchise. Have you notice this especially since the Patch?