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  • therizing02
    MVP
    • Apr 2003
    • 4176

    #76
    Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

    I'm curious as to the meaning of the Pitcher Effectiveness Slider. Does this mean that the CPU pitcher will work the corners more? I have been experimenting with the setting at 75 Effectiveness and Strike Zone Tendency at 40 and pitch speed 75 . With my hitting sliders at 35/75 I am crushing the CPU.

    Interestingly, I am was struggling big time to get hits with the CPU pitching sliders at 50/45......

    Any thoughts on this? I thought that 75/40 would be more difficult....

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    • Fiddy
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      • Jul 2002
      • 12641

      #77
      Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

      if you are having issues getting hits off the cpu, be it swinging at to many bad pitches, not having enough patiences at the plate, make these adjustments until you get comfortable at the plate.

      up the strike zone tendency to around 75, up the batting eye slider to 100.

      with the above, the pitcher will obviously hit the zone more, and the batters eye will light up the zone as to where the pitch is going to go in blue.

      as you get better, lower those sliders back to what joe has em at.

      i made those adjustments last year and it helped me out a ton. helped me learn to read the pitches and if they are going to be in and out of the zone.
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      • bigfnjoe96
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2004
        • 11410

        #78
        Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

        Originally posted by therizing02
        I'm curious as to the meaning of the Pitcher Effectiveness Slider. Does this mean that the CPU pitcher will work the corners more? I have been experimenting with the setting at 75 Effectiveness and Strike Zone Tendency at 40 and pitch speed 75 . With my hitting sliders at 35/75 I am crushing the CPU.

        Interestingly, I am was struggling big time to get hits with the CPU pitching sliders at 50/45......

        Any thoughts on this? I thought that 75/40 would be more difficult....
        Do you mean Pitch Success Slider?

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        • therizing02
          MVP
          • Apr 2003
          • 4176

          #79
          Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

          Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
          Do you mean Pitch Success Slider?
          Yeah...my mistake. BTW, I have the strike zone off so I'm not using Batter's Eye.

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          • bigfnjoe96
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2004
            • 11410

            #80
            Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

            Originally posted by therizing02
            Yeah...my mistake. BTW, I have the strike zone off so I'm not using Batter's Eye.
            That's interesting. It could be placebo. I will say this "50" for me has always been a number that I've said is a number where players ratings kick-in the most. That could be a reason why your seeing what your seeing. I'm not sure though

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            • therizing02
              MVP
              • Apr 2003
              • 4176

              #81
              Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

              Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
              That's interesting. It could be placebo. I will say this "50" for me has always been a number that I've said is a number where players ratings kick-in the most. That could be a reason why your seeing what your seeing. I'm not sure though
              I've always thought that in the majority of sports games, the default settings are where the games are designed to be played. Obviously that's not the case, but I try to stay as close to the default settings as possible.

              In my Yankee franchise I started the season 0-5. Lost to the Red Sox by scores of 3-1, 7-3, and 9-3. Then lost two to the Tigers 4-3 in 10, and 5-3. The last game of the Tigers series was CC vs. Verlander. Before the game I went to 75/40 for the CPU pitching sliders and drilled them 10-1.

              I think the main difference that I notice with those settings are that there are more pitches that end up way out of the strike zone and they are more easily recognizable as being out of the strike zone. My plate discipline was so much better at those settings. Weird....

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              • bigfnjoe96
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2004
                • 11410

                #82
                Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

                Originally posted by therizing02
                I've always thought that in the majority of sports games, the default settings are where the games are designed to be played. Obviously that's not the case, but I try to stay as close to the default settings as possible.

                In my Yankee franchise I started the season 0-5. Lost to the Red Sox by scores of 3-1, 7-3, and 9-3. Then lost two to the Tigers 4-3 in 10, and 5-3. The last game of the Tigers series was CC vs. Verlander. Before the game I went to 75/40 for the CPU pitching sliders and drilled them 10-1.

                I think the main difference that I notice with those settings are that there are more pitches that end up way out of the strike zone and they are more easily recognizable as being out of the strike zone. My plate discipline was so much better at those settings. Weird....
                75/40 is a setting that will allow you to see more balls "in the zone" This is why I raised CPU Pitch Success to 80 & lowered CPU SZT to 35. The only thing I'm noticing is that if you work the count, the CPU will put some pitches in very hittable areas of the plate, which lead to hits.

                I might lower User Contact to 30, so scenerio's like those don't always lead to solid contact

                Just played the Nats/Tigers Spring Training game. Helluva game. Went into the 9th down 5-3. Get a man on with 2 out. Suzuki comes up BAM hits a 2 run HR of Phil Coke ball game tied. Pinch Hit the Pitcher with Wilson Ramos. Coke still in there, 1-1 hanging slider BAM Walk-Off HR to LCF to win the game.

                What a great feeling to win a game that way. As Ramos rounded 3rd his teammates were waiting for him @ home-plate for the Walk-Off team celebration
                Last edited by bigfnjoe96; 03-18-2013, 06:33 PM.

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                • Hunkerdown
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5415

                  #83
                  Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

                  Played 2 more games in braves-chise:

                  Lost to KC 6-1
                  Beat Pirates 2-0

                  Record is 10-6 so far, playing every other game.
                  Realistic games so far, having a blast winning and losing.

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                  • audbal
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 382

                    #84
                    Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

                    Boy I don't know what it is that you changed, but the CPU is ripping me right now. Before the latest changes I was having some good close games. I feel like I'm pitching the same type of game, but now the CPU is really hitting the ball. I'm not saying I want to go back to what the sliders were before the latest changes as I'm determined to figure it out. Having fun regardless.

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                    • Mt Oread
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 287

                      #85
                      Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

                      I started up a temporary franchise to tide me over until they drop opening day rosters, and these sliders are pretty incredible.

                      I do have them tweaked a bit, including USER Pitch Accuracy down to 5. But after going back and forth , I think you guys are dead on about IF Speed at 5. I still think OF Speed at 25, as I think it really eliminates the bad angles and slow retrieval of balls that lead to triples and inside the park home runs. And I bumped CPU contact up to 50, but kept Power at 100.

                      In my first three ame series with the Cards at Arizona, I won the first game 6-0, as Wainright mowed the D-Backs down on just three hits and no walks. After Garcia also failed to walk anyone in a 2-0 loss in Game 2, it's what drove me to drop the Pitch Accuracy to 5 from 10, which is much lower than what you have here.

                      I think folks should just be willing to set it wherever they feel like they are getting the challenge they need. At 5, I walked three guys with Lance Lynn.

                      In the third game, Lynn got the win, but it took me six pitchers to put them away 4-3. I should note that the CPU ran PH's out every time they should have, and even grabbed lefties when I had a RH on the mound.

                      Runs are being scored in variety of ways, including a nice mix of HR's. With scores of 6-0, 0-2, and 4-3, it's not bombs away. Craig has multiple HR's, and I;'ve hit them with Molina and Kozma. The CPU has hit a few, too. It's just a perfect balance that never feels cheap, but the threat is always there.

                      In the 2-0 game, Cahill threw a one-hit shut out on me. In fact, I did not get my first hit until 2 outs in the 8th inning. That followed and 11 hit game, and I had 9 hits in the game after. So while it was frustrating, it was realistic.

                      I'm half way through my 4th game at SF. Lincecum is keeping me down, as the Giants lead 3-1. Craig hit a HR in he first. I have Westbrook going, and he has been in truble in most innings, and finally came out due to injury. But I'm pitching by the seat of my pants right now.

                      So far, I have had zero errors, for the Cards or the other teams, so I am considering bumping up the error sliders.

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                      • audbal
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 382

                        #86
                        Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

                        These sliders are dialed in. Lots of fun. Just had to share the ending of my game. Baltimore at redsox(me) spring training game, top of the ninth, I'm up 3-2, two outs, 0-2 count, nobody on base. I end up walking the batter, next guy up doubles in the runner, next guy up hits a 2 run homer. 3 up 3 down in the bottom of the ninth, I lose 5-3.

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                        • WaitTilNextYear
                          Go Cubs Go
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 16830

                          #87
                          Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

                          BIGFNJOE96,

                          Great work on these sliders! Everyone that's been commenting here seems to be enjoying them!

                          I'm getting near the end of Spring Training in my 'chise and with that, also nearing the end of testing sliders...I just wanted to offer the settings I am using where different than yours (they are pretty close across the board! ).

                          Note: if settings are missing, we have them at the same value.

                          So here goes...your setting / my setting

                          Pitcher Fatigue: 55 / 50

                          BATTING
                          USER Batting Contact: 35 / 45
                          USER Batting Power: 100 / 85
                          USER Bunt Contact: 50 / 40
                          USER Bunt Success: 50 / 30

                          CPU Batting Contact: 45 / 45
                          CPU Batting Power: 100 / 85
                          CPU Bunt Contact: 75 / 40
                          CPU Bunt Success: 50 / 30

                          PITCHING
                          USER Pitch Speed: 80 / 100
                          Pitcher Control: 25 / 30

                          CPU Pitch Speed: 80 / 75
                          CPU Pitch Success: 80 / 75

                          FIELDING
                          Throw Accuracy: 50 / 45
                          Gather Error Frequency: 50 / 45
                          Throwing Error Frequency: 50 / 55
                          Infield Throw Speed: 40 / 45
                          Outfield Run Speed: 20 / 15
                          Infield Run Speed: 5 / 0

                          CPU Gather Error Frequency: 50 / 45
                          CPU Throwing Error Frequency: 50 / 55
                          CPU Infield Throw Speeds: 40 / 45
                          CPU Outfield Run Speed: 20 / 15
                          CPU Infield Run Speed: 5 / 0

                          BASERUNNING

                          Base Runner Speed: 45 / 40
                          Pickoff Success: 60 / 25
                          Catcher Arm Strength: 40 / 35
                          Catcher Arm Accuracy: 50 / 40

                          CPU Base Runner Speed: 45 / 40
                          CPU Hit-n-Run Tendency: 80 / 40
                          CPU Sacrifice Bunt Tendency: 75 / 70
                          CPU Base Running Aggression: 65 / 75
                          CPU Catcher Arm Strength: 60 / 40
                          CPU Catcher Arm Accuracy: 50 / 40

                          I also wanted to note that the batting settings are not final yet. I have been tinkering. Contact will be 40-50 and power 80-90 for both though. 45/85 feels the best so far. Also, I might move the pitch break down another 5 to 30, and the CPU pitch success will end up 70-80, just not sure whether 70, 75, or 80 is optimal yet. If I can mash a bit on 45/85 contact/power, then I'll try 80 for pitch success.

                          I will say that I decided to decrease the OF speed to 15, and with that I'm confident I have my perfect set of fielding/baserunning sliders. Everything feels timed really well. Also, there are a good number of errors but not too many (~1-2 per game). I am not touching those!

                          As for one of the main points of emphasis with this game--hitting for power...I have seen that, at least for me, using the power swing is really of little to no use. In fact, I make weaker contact off of power swings and that might be because it penalizes poor swing timing more. I have actually hit ALL of my HRs so far using contact swings (~15 HR in 20ish games), so I'm tempted to forget trying to pull back on the stick altogether. I also find the power slider to be very touchy. I can go without a HR for 4-5 games with power = 80, but I hit 5 HR in 1 game with power = 90. As far as HR distribution, it seems pretty realistic. I have hit 1 HR with Jose Altuve who has < 50 power. I have hit 2 HR with Gerardo Parra who was power in the 50's. And the rest (10 or so) have come with hitters with power > 60. Brett Wallace, Chris Carter, and Mike Olt are my "sluggers" on the Astros .

                          As far as pitching, I have been getting touched up about 1-2 runs per game more than I should be. But I attribute this to 2 things. First, I am the Astros...there is no ace pitcher. And secondly, I am the Astros. With such a meager budget, I am going without IE Reports, so I'm just winging it against hitters. And guys like Jose Bautista are making me pay. I think when I start using the IE Reports (I only bought them for division foes who I don't play until the regular season), there will be a nice difference.
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                          • MizzouRah
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 8521

                            #88
                            Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

                            I concur on not using the power swing, I like being able to hit them on fat pitches with the contact swing.

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                            • duhitsrandy
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 728

                              #89
                              Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

                              love the sliders, but for some reason i always end up winning. im 14-2 and have had games where i blow out the cpu and about 8 games where i come back from a decent deficit in the 8th or 9th. dont wanna really mess witht he composure sliders on each side but with all the other stats being pretty realistic thats the only idea i have. any other thoughts to increase difficulty just a tad?

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                              • opd897
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 1093

                                #90
                                Re: BIGFNJOE96 MLB 2K13 Total Control/Inside Edge Sliders

                                Originally posted by duhitsrandy
                                love the sliders, but for some reason i always end up winning. im 14-2 and have had games where i blow out the cpu and about 8 games where i come back from a decent deficit in the 8th or 9th. dont wanna really mess witht he composure sliders on each side but with all the other stats being pretty realistic thats the only idea i have. any other thoughts to increase difficulty just a tad?
                                I'll try to help out but will need more information as to exactly how you are winning each game. Is your pitcher dominating and striking out too many CPU hitters? Are the CPU hits in the 6-12 range per game and are yours? How are your home runs as well as the CPU's?

                                I am using this slider set and really like it however I was getting too many strikeouts with my pitchers, double digits every game, so I upped the CPU contact to 55 and left everything else the same with the exception of the user pitcher meter speed that I upped to 100. Now I average 6-8 strikeouts a game....much better. I am 4-3 in my Royals franchise, still in Spring Training and testing.

                                Your skill level may be above mine and you may have to adjust the sliders accordingly.
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