Official Barry Bonds Thread

[TheMatrix31]

Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

Hasn't it always?

BG, it's never appropriate to throw intentionally at anyone. Not in my book, at least.

[BGarrett7]

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BG, it's never appropriate to throw intentionally at anyone. Not in my book, at least.

Well, obviously the book that most ML players and managers has differs greatly from yours.

[Scottdau]

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Well, obviously the book that most ML players and managers has differs greatly from yours.

You need to learn baseball, it is not all right to throw at someone, unless there is something going on! If he was throwing at Bonds, because they throw at his player. Or if he was getting back for something earlier, sure that is OK. But to throw at someone for know reason is wrong! We will never know the truth, because I am sure he was throwing at Bonds for something that happen. but if he was throwing at him because he is Bonds. He should be gone, that is not right!

[BGarrett7]

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You need to learn baseball, it is not all right to throw at someone, unless there is something going on! If he was throwing at Bonds, because they throw at his player. Or if he was getting back for something earlier, sure that is OK. But to throw at someone for know reason is wrong! We will never know the truth, because I am sure he was throwing at Bonds for something that happen. but if he was throwing at him because he is Bonds. He should be gone, that is not right!

And TheMatrix was making a general statement that it was never cool to intentionally plunk someone. You said yourself that it was kosher to throw at players as long as there was just reason, that's all I was saying in my reply to him. Whether Springer had acceptable grounds to hit Bonds or not, we don't know yet.

[TheMatrix31]

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I bet he's throwing at Bonds b/c of their history, I don't think there's any doubt about that.

[Blzer]

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Again... shouldn't quite be posting here, but I think that throwing at people, in terms of what is just and what isn't, is just absolutely wrong, especially when kids at the Little League level are watching these games. Believe me... these kinds of things go through their heads.

But, at times, intentional retaliation is always just a message. Retaliation is NOT a headshot, though. Below the waist at all times. I still think he got hit on that one pitch prior... I just don't know.



Anyway, I think that this would have been a much better situation if Springer and Garner actually admitted to intentionally hitting him. How do I know? Well, for one thing, they claim that pitch was a slider. Look at the pitch again, again, and again. And then realize that Russ Springer hasn't ever thrown a 92 MPH slider in his lifetime. That is just inexcusable to try and HIDE the fact that you were throwing at a guy, regardless of the reason. People on this MB want pitchers to take initiative and have the balls to confront Bonds. I feel that Springer didn't do this, and he was not successful in doing his job.


All I know about their history is that Bonds is 1 for 6 lifetime with a home run, strikeout, and 1 HPB prior to last night's incident. I cannot really see of any other "history" that could lead to this. Maybe he's just angry inside, that's all.

[Scottdau]

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I bet he's throwing at Bonds b/c of their history, I don't think there's any doubt about that.

yeah I think that too! I am cool with that! He is just lucky he didn't say any thing to Bonds. Bonds would have hurt him lol.

[BGarrett7]

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Bonds would have hurt him lol.

Yeah, if he didn't blow out a knee hobbling out to the mound.

[Scottdau]

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Yeah, if he didn't blow out a knee hobbling out to the mound.

True, but he is strong! though I heard Jason Christiansen had Bonds in a head lock when they got into it last year! lol

[mjb2124]

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I don't see the big deal. Ask Don Drysdale or Bob Gibson what they'd do if someone used body armor at the plate or dug in against them or if someone flipped their bat or watched a HR sail over the fence. Those guys wouldn't even bother throwing below the waist. They'd drill ya right in the earhole with a 98 MPH fastball. If players back then could handle it, surely the body armored guys today can.

IMO throwing at people BELOW THE WAIST is 100% acceptable. I don't like the head hunting, but it has been a staple of the game for years.

[Stu]

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I don't see the big deal. Ask Don Drysdale or Bob Gibson what they'd do if someone used body armor at the plate or dug in against them or if someone flipped their bat or watched a HR sail over the fence. Those guys wouldn't even bother throwing below the waist. They'd drill ya right in the earhole with a 98 MPH fastball. If players back then could handle it, surely the body armored guys today can.

I agree. The body armor these guys use is one of my biggest gripes in today's game. Last night against the Red Sox, Kevin Millar basically turned into a pitch so it would hit off his elbow pad. He probably didn't even feel it.

It's ridiculous that these guys can basically stand on the plate with no fear of getting hurt and make no effort to get out of the way.

[countryboy]

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I thought what Springer did was quite hilarious.

What I find hilarious is the fact that a man threw 5 fastballs directly at Bonds and finally beaned him, and Bonds didn't have the ba**s to do anything about it. Come on, a pitcher blantly tries to bean me, I am going out to the mound and see how big a man he really is. But I guess its true that steroids shrink a males manlihood.

[countryboy]

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Yeah, if he didn't blow out a knee hobbling out to the mound.

Most hitters hit get so blantly beaned are like

Barry Bonds just

[Scottdau]

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Most hitters hit get so blantly beaned are like

Barry Bonds just

Yeah what ever, wow. If Bonds would have done something you guys would be all over that that he over reacted. Now when he doesn't do something you are on him for that. All I can say is what good would have it done!

[Scottdau]

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I don't see the big deal. Ask Don Drysdale or Bob Gibson what they'd do if someone used body armor at the plate or dug in against them or if someone flipped their bat or watched a HR sail over the fence. Those guys wouldn't even bother throwing below the waist. They'd drill ya right in the earhole with a 98 MPH fastball. If players back then could handle it, surely the body armored guys today can.

IMO throwing at people BELOW THE WAIST is 100% acceptable. I don't like the head hunting, but it has been a staple of the game for years.

I agree with that! But I am sure he had a reason. Maybe we will know, who knows.