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  • teebone
    Banned
    • Oct 2006
    • 668

    #16
    Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

    Originally posted by SPTO
    Yep, it would do irreparable harm to the franchise and would be the physical manifestation of the impending dark ages for the Yankee franchise. You go and trade Jeter and the Yankees become just another big money franchise trying to win it all on a big budget.

    Jeter is a link to those World Series teams where it was a mix of youth and veterans that won not merely because the Yanks have the biggest payroll but because the players were character guys and gritty, hard working TEAMATES. The Yankees without Jeter will just be another team with 25 guys playing for themselves rather then the team.
    Jeter is 32 years old. In a couple of years a position change may be necessary and his trade value is still high if people still perceive him to be a shortstop. Also, it wouldnt necessarily be the dark ages if they got good pitching in return.

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    • mgoblue
      Go Wings!
      • Jul 2002
      • 25477

      #17
      Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

      I agree that he at least makes some good points, makes you think.

      It'll never happen, the Yankees won't trade Jeter ever, but it would kinda make sense if Jeter didn't have the mystique
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      • jake44np
        Post Like a Champion!
        • Jul 2002
        • 9563

        #18
        Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

        Local sports talk in Cincy is saying the Reds may try to trade for AROD.
        The Reds would send Griffey, Dunn and Edwin Encarnarcion to the Yanks.
        No way this will happen but there where talking about it here on the radio.
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        • dalnet22
          Banned
          • Jul 2004
          • 770

          #19
          Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

          Originally posted by SPTO
          Trading Jeter would be the modern equivalent of trading Babe Ruth.

          It's not going to happen.
          No, it's more like the Dallas Mavericks trading Mark Cuban - it just doesn't happen.

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #20
            Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

            Well, Caple apparently felt he wasn't getting enough recent attention.
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            • SC3BBall
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 2139

              #21
              Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

              ha ha

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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #22
                Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                Let's look at this in another light.

                Mind you, I wouldn't say trading Jeter is the answer... but are they really going to be able to move A-Rod now? With his salary?

                Maybe they should look to move Sheff... isn't he done with his contract anyway? Hell, maybe you can get something for Giambi... Wright... anything... as it is now, I'd only be interested in Jeter, Matsui, and Posada if I'm looking at the Yanks. They just signed Damon, so he isn't going anywhere.
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                • ehh
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 28962

                  #23
                  Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                  Originally posted by Pared

                  Mind you, I wouldn't say trading Jeter is the answer... but are they really going to be able to move A-Rod now? With his salary?
                  A few people are saying that now is the best time for another team to get A-Rod. First off, the Rangers are paying $67 million of A-Rod's contract and obviously the Yanks will agree to pay off some of it as well if they were to move him.

                  Plus he just shat the bed for the 2nd straight postseason so his value is as low as it'd ever be. It's like the stock market or real estate world, buy when the value is looooow. Granted A-Rod's value will never be low, relatively speaking this off season would be the best time to get him. If the Yanks are doing an overhaul and absolutely want to get rid of him, the buyer will be in control of the transaction.

                  As for Sheff, there's a $13mil club option for next year, no way in hell that gets pick up. I liked Sheff's aggressiveness the last three years and he was great in '04, but it's time to move on.
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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #24
                    Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                    Originally posted by teebone
                    Jeter is 32 years old. In a couple of years a position change may be necessary and his trade value is still high if people still perceive him to be a shortstop. Also, it wouldnt necessarily be the dark ages if they got good pitching in return.
                    Maybe i've exaggerated my claim but if there's still Franchise Players left in pro sports then Jeter has to be one of them. I can't imagine Jeter in another uniform. So maybe most of my venom against such a move is sentimental. I hate the Yankees but Jeter has been THE class of the organization from day one.

                    Also I believe he still has at least 4 seasons left at the SS position. When does his current contract expire?
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                    • ehh
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 28962

                      #25
                      Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                      Originally posted by SPTO

                      Also I believe he still has at least 4 seasons left at the SS position. When does his current contract expire?
                      He signed a 10-year deal in February of '01. He's a Yankee for life, he is the last person in the entire sports would that would be traded.
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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #26
                        Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                        Originally posted by ehh
                        A few people are saying that now is the best time for another team to get A-Rod. First off, the Rangers are paying $67 million of A-Rod's contract and obviously the Yanks will agree to pay off some of it as well if they were to move him.

                        Plus he just shat the bed for the 2nd straight postseason so his value is as low as it'd ever be. It's like the stock market or real estate world, buy when the value is looooow. Granted A-Rod's value will never be low, relatively speaking this off season would be the best time to get him. If the Yanks are doing an overhaul and absolutely want to get rid of him, the buyer will be in control of the transaction.

                        As for Sheff, there's a $13mil club option for next year, no way in hell that gets pick up. I liked Sheff's aggressiveness the last three years and he was great in '04, but it's time to move on.
                        Yes, but I wouldn't give up a star for him at this point. MVP in '05 or not, if he can't come through when it counts... I think Barry Bonds had the same stigma attached to him when it came to post-season performance.

                        IF he does get moved, put him back at Shortstop. I'm sure it would do wonders for the guy... he clearly is not comfortable at 3rd.
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                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #27
                          Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                          Originally posted by ehh
                          He signed a 10-year deal in February of '01. He's a Yankee for life, he is the last person in the entire sports would that would be traded.
                          I pretty much agree with this. Like I've said I just can't see him in another uniform. I bet if he were traded he'd retire rather then play for the other team.
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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #28
                            Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                            I hope people realize that the article is a joke.

                            It's there because they needed Caple to write something.
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                            • The C
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 7538

                              #29
                              Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                              How much longer is Jeter going to be a good/decent short stop? Once he can't field aswell what do you have left?

                              With A-Rod you still get the HRs and other goodie stats. With Jeter it's just intangibles.

                              Shake up the world, trade Jeter. Be a bad mother****er George. Jeter's your leader and he hasn't lead you to anything recently.

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                              • ehh
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28962

                                #30
                                Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                                Originally posted by The C
                                How much longer is Jeter going to be a good/decent short stop? Once he can't field aswell what do you have left?

                                With A-Rod you still get the HRs and other goodie stats. With Jeter it's just intangibles.
                                Hitting .340 is an intangible?
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