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  • NYJets
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 18637

    #46
    Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

    Holy crap, why do people insist on making such a big deal about him not saying anything in support of Arod? Would it have been nice, and probably the right thing for the captain to do? Yes. But it's not that big of a deal. It's not like the fans would have stopped booing, and A-Rod would suddenly be fine again.

    Yes, he stuck up for Giambi. And the fans went right back to booing him. They didn't stop until he started hitting.

    A-Rod is the only one who can get himself back to the level of being one of the 2 or 3 best players in the game, nobody else can do it for him.
    Originally posted by Jay Bilas
    The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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    • ehh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 28962

      #47
      Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

      Originally posted by Pared
      lol so what the hell was Wells doing all those years as a Yankee?



      haha... man I'd still tap that nutcase. Mariah Carey...
      Boomer was making up for the other 24 guys on the roster.


      Mariah....yes...still very fine.
      "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

      "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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      • NovaStar
        Banned
        • Aug 2002
        • 3561

        #48
        Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

        Yeah, whoever started this thread doesn't know a damn thing about Yankee baseball. Jeter will retire a Yankee...book it.

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        • ehh
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2003
          • 28962

          #49
          Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

          Originally posted by NovaStar
          Yeah, whoever started this thread doesn't know a damn thing about Yankee baseball. Jeter will retire a Yankee...book it.
          Well, the thread was based on a sarcastic (at least I hope so) article by Jim Caple. I don't think anyone w. a brain cell or two thinks Jeter is going anywhere.
          "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

          "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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          • Stu
            All Star
            • Jun 2004
            • 7924

            #50
            Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

            Originally posted by NYJets
            Holy crap, why do people insist on making such a big deal about him not saying anything in support of Arod? Would it have been nice, and probably the right thing for the captain to do? Yes. But it's not that big of a deal. It's not like the fans would have stopped booing, and A-Rod would suddenly be fine again.

            Yes, he stuck up for Giambi. And the fans went right back to booing him. They didn't stop until he started hitting.

            A-Rod is the only one who can get himself back to the level of being one of the 2 or 3 best players in the game, nobody else can do it for him.
            Yah I don't understand that either. People don't understand how fickle Yankees fans can be when a player isn't performing as well as they think he should be. These are the same people that booed Jeter and Rivera. Jeter coming out in support of ARod would have accomplished absolutely nothing. In fact based on the Tom Verducci article, I actually think Jeter took the correct approach in forcing ARod to man up and take responsibility.
            Last edited by Stu; 10-10-2006, 12:54 PM.
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            • NovaStar
              Banned
              • Aug 2002
              • 3561

              #51
              Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

              Originally posted by ehh
              Well, the thread was based on a sarcastic (at least I hope so) article by Jim Caple. I don't think anyone w. a brain cell or two thinks Jeter is going anywhere.
              Oh, o.k., my apologies to the thread starter. I haven't been on the baseball forum for awhile because I was too sick that my boys lost, so I just saw the title and jumped right to the end. I am just glad they Kept Torre.

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              • ehh
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2003
                • 28962

                #52
                Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                Blaire Perrone's is the steakhouse I was referring to.
                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                • NovaStar
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 3561

                  #53
                  Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                  Hey Ehh, after reading this entire thread I see there are some pure Yankee/Jeter hatahs in this thread. Whether the article be written out of sarcasm or not, at what point was Jeter supposed to defend A-rod with the fans and or media. Exactly what was he supposed to say? Arod is a all time great that knows the game, you hit your way out of fan disproval. Arod needed to talk to his psychiatrist. I am sure Jeter talked to Arod in the private or in the dugout. Additionally, if Arod was guilty of bad mouth Jeter in the past, then maybe he needed to see for himself how hard it is to be a Yankee and why Jeter is the man, and why he is great in his own right, that is part of leading as well.

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                  • teebone
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 668

                    #54
                    Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                    Originally posted by ehh
                    Are you serious? Name one single time that Jeter has berated or placed blame ANYBODY?! Another player? Another team? The front office? NEVER!

                    Has any other player, team, manager, front office EVER had a problem with Jeter?! NOPE! Never said a bad word about him.

                    Has he ever been in a bar fight, arrested or seen making an *** outta himself while hammered in public?! No. As a matter of fact it's in his contract that he cannot drink alcohol in public.

                    He has the utmost respect for the game of baseball and everyone involved. Has he ever pulled something like Carl Everett, Frank Thomas or someone similar? No.

                    All your recent posts have been anti-Yankee so it's clear you hate them and by this post it's clear you're blinded by your hatred. This is an idiotic reach based 100% assumptions.
                    On the contrary. You are the one making the assumptions. You assume the best and bestow him these qualities. Im simply saying, its truly impossible to bestow characteristics to him (eg "being classy") because there is too much you dont know. Im not saying he's this or that because that would require making an assumption. Because there are so many Yankeeheads who are eager to do what you are doing, Jeter might have enough pull to get people to lighten up were he to defend him in public.

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                    • NYJets
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 18637

                      #55
                      Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                      Originally posted by Thrasha
                      They can't trade Jeter.

                      But at some point the ball-washing has to stop.

                      Jeter a leader? He's the inferior SS. They had a need at CF.

                      He would have made, probably, a very good CF. He doesn't have the greatest arm in the world, but he would probably be able to read the ball correctly and has the range to cover some pretty good ground.

                      If he had done that, that's 52 million less on payroll (Considering the Damon signing). Which could have gone to adding another pitcher (but really money hasn't really seemed to have been a factor but whatever).
                      There was no evidence that the Yankees even asked Jeter to play centerfield. Somebody asked Torre whether he thought Jeter or A-Rod could do it, and he said he thought they would be able too. It was never part of the plan though.

                      And if you moved Jeter to center, A-Rod to short, you still need to find a 3rd baseman. I'd rather Damon then try that whole experiment anyway.

                      And again, it's not like there are all these great, young pitchers available every year as FA, and the Yankees have chosen offense instead. Teams are locking up their young pitchers early, making everyone overpay for bums like Pavano, Wright, Clement, Burnett, etc.
                      Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                      The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                      • NYJets
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 18637

                        #56
                        Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                        Originally posted by The C
                        How often has he hit that high? If I recall he is usually around the .300 line which is very good, but with Arod you get around that plus the homers, the rbis etc.

                        All I'm saying is that while trading Jeter would more than likely never happen, I just question how much longer he is going to be good.

                        I'd personally rather take A-Rod and hope that light turns on, than stick with Jeter and hope it doesn't burn out. *I'm speaking clearly at the short position. I figure if you put A-Rod back where he is natural that might be a boost for his confidence.

                        Jeter is only one year older than A-Rod.

                        I don't see how burning out would be an issue, especially when Jeter is coming off one of his best years.
                        Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                        The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                        • NovaStar
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 3561

                          #57
                          Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                          Originally posted by teebone
                          On the contrary. You are the one making the assumptions. You assume the best and bestow him these qualities. Im simply saying, its truly impossible to bestow characteristics to him (eg "being classy") because there is too much you dont know. Im not saying he's this or that because that would require making an assumption. Because there are so many Yankeeheads who are eager to do what you are doing, Jeter might have enough pull to get people to lighten up were he to defend him in public.
                          You sound like a Boston fan.

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                          • teebone
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 668

                            #58
                            Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                            Originally posted by NovaStar
                            You sound like a Boston fan.
                            You would be making an assumption.

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                            • NovaStar
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 3561

                              #59
                              Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                              Originally posted by teebone
                              You would be making an assumption.
                              No, I would be making an observation.

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                              • ehh
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28962

                                #60
                                Re: Trade A-Rod . . . or Jeter???

                                Originally posted by teebone
                                On the contrary. You are the one making the assumptions. You assume the best and bestow him these qualities. Im simply saying, its truly impossible to bestow characteristics to him (eg "being classy") because there is too much you dont know. Im not saying he's this or that because that would require making an assumption. Because there are so many Yankeeheads who are eager to do what you are doing, Jeter might have enough pull to get people to lighten up were he to defend him in public.
                                Nah, I'm not assuming. It's called deductive reasoning.

                                If some other player in the majors has beef w. Jeter, why the hell would they cover it up or keep quiet?

                                You think there are tons of major leaguers who despise Jeter and think he's classless, but every time they talk about him they have nothing but the best to say?

                                His collegues/opponents are the people who know him best, see him behind the scenes and know what he's like. If he wasn't a classy, respectful guy then would all his opponents have great things to say about him?

                                In the professional sports world where your under an intense microscope (and in NY no less), where the smallest TO comment, the smallest Frank Thomas chirp, where Chad Johnson's trash talking, etc gets blown way out of proportion, why has not a single negative thing made headlines about Jeter in 12 years?

                                It must be because he secretly is a jerk and classless guy.


                                Originally posted by teebone
                                You would be making an assumption.
                                LOL, he said you sound like one, not you are one. Do you understand the meaning of assumption?
                                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                                "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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