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  • Stu
    All Star
    • Jun 2004
    • 7924

    #166
    Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

    Originally posted by Chaos81
    Am I the only one who's thinking that Boston bid that high just to stop the Yankees from getting him?
    Yes. If they bid just to keep him from the Yankees they would come out of this looking very badly and probably face some punishment if they didn't negotiate in good faith. I guarantee they went into this with the intention of signing him. It's in everyones best interest if he signs, regardless of the extra money the Red Sox are paying.
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    • cbgatorade0202
      Why Not?
      • Dec 2004
      • 4041

      #167
      Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

      Im tellin you they dont need to sign JD Drew, Just find a 1 year maybe 2 year replacement b/c my Good buddy is in there Minor Leagues now and I'm tellin ya, There's a chance he's gonna make it big time.

      Allright I actually say Sign JD Drew to 3 years if you can get him, If he stays healthy the lineup would be awesome. They could also just put Willy Mo in Right, Cocco in Center and Manny in left.
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      • Chaos81
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2004
        • 17150

        #168
        Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

        Originally posted by camulos
        Yes. If they bid just to keep him from the Yankees they would come out of this looking very badly and probably face some punishment if they didn't negotiate in good faith. I guarantee they went into this with the intention of signing him. It's in everyones best interest if he signs, regardless of the extra money the Red Sox are paying.
        I knew I should have explained a little more.

        I don't mean they went into it not wanting to sign him. I'm just saying that they might offer his quite as much money as they would otherwise. Try to get him to sign a much cheaper contract then what Boras wants.

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        • Dispatch
          MVP
          • Jan 2006
          • 2339

          #169
          Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

          Originally posted by cbgatorade0202
          Im tellin you they dont need to sign JD Drew, Just find a 1 year maybe 2 year replacement b/c my Good buddy is in there Minor Leagues now and I'm tellin ya, There's a chance he's gonna make it big time.

          Allright I actually say Sign JD Drew to 3 years if you can get him, If he stays healthy the lineup would be awesome. They could also just put Willy Mo in Right, Cocco in Center and Manny in left.
          Is your friend Jacoby Ellsbury?

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          • chippered
            MVP
            • Aug 2002
            • 1528

            #170
            Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

            Originally posted by Cisco Kid
            Is your friend Jacoby Ellsbury?
            Was wondering that as well.
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            • Lintyfresh85
              Where have I been?
              • Jul 2002
              • 17492

              #171
              Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

              Originally posted by Chaos81
              Am I the only one who's thinking that Boston bid that high just to stop the Yankees from getting him?
              Dan Patrick was talking about this, and he also speculated on if the Sox just did this to stop him from playing for a year...

              Could be possible, its not like 50 million is going to hurt them.... They have an endless supply of money, and if they can stop the Yankees from getting him why not do it?

              Only penalty they could possibly face would to be blackballed by all Japanese teams refusing to take a bid from the Sox... Other than that, I doubt they can face any penalty... They paid the 50 mill. they can do whatever they want with D-Mat.
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              • AI_Franchise
                Banned
                • Nov 2002
                • 2146

                #172
                Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

                I don't think so. Selig would come done hard on the Red Sox franchise if they attempted a stupid maneuver such as the one you mentioned. They would also have gotten all of their $51.1 million back, but it doesn't work like that.

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                • Stu
                  All Star
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 7924

                  #173
                  Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

                  Originally posted by Superstar
                  Dan Patrick was talking about this, and he also speculated on if the Sox just did this to stop him from playing for a year...
                  The reason this doesnt make sense is because Matsuzaka is NOT a free agent after the 2007 season so would have to be posted again next year. It's in everyone's best interest to get a deal done here.

                  Originally posted by AI_Franchise
                  I don't think so. Selig would come done hard on the Red Sox franchise if they attempted a stupid maneuver such as the one you mentioned. They would also have gotten all of their $51.1 million back, but it doesn't work like that.
                  Exactly. If the Red Sox don't negotiate in good faith, I wouldn't be surprised if Selig went as far as awarding him to the next highest bidder. The whole point of the WBC was to make MLB and international sport. Selig is going to do everything in his power to get foreign stars here
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                  • theaub
                    Stop! Homer Time!
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 9643

                    #174
                    Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

                    Originally posted by SPTO
                    The sad thing is Boston is going to be essentially paying 90 million dollars for an unknown quanitity as i've heard Boras is looking for a 40 million dollar contract.


                    "sigh"
                    The contract must be for at least $51 million...Boras only wants a 3 year deal. I'd laugh if Boston pays 17 million a year for him.
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                    • AI_Franchise
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 2146

                      #175
                      Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

                      Originally posted by theaub
                      The contract must be for at least $51 million...Boras only wants a 3 year deal. I'd laugh if Boston pays 17 million a year for him.
                      I don't think any team in their right mind would pay $17 mil. per...and it would make sense to post a similar figure to the one they gave away just to contract him.

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                      • Dispatch
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 2339

                        #176
                        Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

                        Originally posted by theaub
                        The contract must be for at least $51 million...Boras only wants a 3 year deal. I'd laugh if Boston pays 17 million a year for him.
                        If you can find a well known source that says that the contract must be as high as the bid then I'll beleive it. But I don't because it sounds stupid and haven't heard it on any shows or articles I have read in the past week.

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                        • NYJets
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 18637

                          #177
                          Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

                          Originally posted by theaub
                          The contract must be for at least $51 million...Boras only wants a 3 year deal. I'd laugh if Boston pays 17 million a year for him.

                          I have read that on multiple baseball forums, but I think that is a myth, as nobody has been able to come up with any source that supports that.
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                          • cjonesfan921
                            UGH, next year
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 20081

                            #178
                            Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

                            Won't matter because the RedSox will be making millions of this guy anyway, just like the Yanks with Matsui. Especially if he does coem to the MLB and does well.

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                            • AI_Franchise
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 2146

                              #179
                              Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

                              Originally posted by cjonesfan921
                              Won't matter because the RedSox will be making millions of this guy anyway, just like the Yanks with Matsui. Especially if he does coem to the MLB and does well.

                              Please don't compare Matsui with the Yankees. That's like comparing apples and oranges, even though Matsuzaka is Japanese. I can't even say the situation is similar as when Mariners acquired Ichiro, cause it's not.

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                              • cjonesfan921
                                UGH, next year
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 20081

                                #180
                                Re: Prized pitcher Matsuzaka given OK to pitch in MLB

                                Originally posted by AI_Franchise
                                Please don't compare Matsui with the Yankees. That's like comparing apples and oranges, even though Matsuzaka is Japanese. I can't even say the situation is similar as when Mariners acquired Ichiro, cause it's not.
                                Umm aren't the Yanks getting millions from Japanese companies? Exactly, that's what I compared it to.

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