Comprehensive Baseball Reviews

[CarrotJuice]

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Whip

How many games of WSB and MVP have you played, and which gives you more realistic numbers?

[CarrotJuice]

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Whip

How many games of WSB and MVP have you played, and which gives you more realistic numbers?

[FatPitcher]

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Well, I just played a full game for the first time in 2 weeks. I actually scored just 4 (lost 8-4) on Legend. The runs came after I stopped swinging early at everything...

Couple Observations -

Ball seems to disappear "in front" of home plate instead of going through the zone and to a catcher. In fact, if you move the batting cursor all the way in with a right handed batter, the cursor appears in front of the batter, which is weird to me. Shouldn't it appear on the same plane as the middle of the plate?

CPU runners continually failed to take an easy extra base.

Not that I'm too familiar with him, but I doubt Mark Prior's fastball dips to 86 mph by innings 2 and 3. I think he throws low-mid 90s all game?

Looked at Kerry Wood's fastball rating...74? Hmmm, hate to see a REAL major league fastball. Giambi, of course, garners a 100 overall rating.

TInkered around in Franchise starting with Marlins and in 10 minutes had acquired Paul Konerko, Roger Clemons, Jorge Posada and Casey Fossum. I didn't even give up any of the Marlins stud pitchers (Burnett, Beckett, Penny) and had a projected lineup of 2B Castillo, SS - i forget, whoever FLA shortstop is, 3B - Mike Lowell, 1B Paul Konerko, C - Jorge Posada, CF Juan Pierre, then some bum LF and Juan Encarnacion. Not great, but paired with Clemons, Burnett, Beckett, Penney and Fossum, not horrible.

Did appreciate some of the funny comments when trying to make trades "Our whole team is built around Nomar Garciappara, we're not trading him." LOL, pretty cool there.

Anyways, I still enjoy the game but it won't get the bulk of my console attention this spring. Depending on tastes though, this is right on par with MVP for looks, playability, etc., AND has a deeper Franchise mode (get used to navigating Sega's typically heavy-handed front-end menus).



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Fair enough. Four runs is pretty good for Legend.

Have you tried the "Power Pro" hitting? I'd be interested in hearing what you think of it.

I'm guessing you had to part with I-Rod, Lee, and some decent pitching (Spooneybarger?) to get what you did, which didn't sound particularly good (aging, expensive players)

Pitch ratings include a control factor, which is probably what's bringing down Wood's fastball to a 74 (still one of the best). Comparing a rating for one pitch to an overall rating is apples with oranges. Wood's got an overall rating of close to 90, I believe (overall ratings are all pushed up toward the 50+ side, while ratings for attributes use the full 1-100 scale).

There's a feature that never seems to have made it into the manual that allows you to put more juice on a pitch; the stamina system is set up expecting it to be used fairly often. If you still aren't getting the mph you want, you can edit the speed ratings for each of a pitcher's pitches.

I agree that the baserunning is conservative, but not to the degree that it "continually fails to take an easy extra base." The alternative is probably worse--being able to throw the CPU runners out with regularity (which seems to be an issue in several other games this year).

[FatPitcher]

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Well, I just played a full game for the first time in 2 weeks. I actually scored just 4 (lost 8-4) on Legend. The runs came after I stopped swinging early at everything...

Couple Observations -

Ball seems to disappear "in front" of home plate instead of going through the zone and to a catcher. In fact, if you move the batting cursor all the way in with a right handed batter, the cursor appears in front of the batter, which is weird to me. Shouldn't it appear on the same plane as the middle of the plate?

CPU runners continually failed to take an easy extra base.

Not that I'm too familiar with him, but I doubt Mark Prior's fastball dips to 86 mph by innings 2 and 3. I think he throws low-mid 90s all game?

Looked at Kerry Wood's fastball rating...74? Hmmm, hate to see a REAL major league fastball. Giambi, of course, garners a 100 overall rating.

TInkered around in Franchise starting with Marlins and in 10 minutes had acquired Paul Konerko, Roger Clemons, Jorge Posada and Casey Fossum. I didn't even give up any of the Marlins stud pitchers (Burnett, Beckett, Penny) and had a projected lineup of 2B Castillo, SS - i forget, whoever FLA shortstop is, 3B - Mike Lowell, 1B Paul Konerko, C - Jorge Posada, CF Juan Pierre, then some bum LF and Juan Encarnacion. Not great, but paired with Clemons, Burnett, Beckett, Penney and Fossum, not horrible.

Did appreciate some of the funny comments when trying to make trades "Our whole team is built around Nomar Garciappara, we're not trading him." LOL, pretty cool there.

Anyways, I still enjoy the game but it won't get the bulk of my console attention this spring. Depending on tastes though, this is right on par with MVP for looks, playability, etc., AND has a deeper Franchise mode (get used to navigating Sega's typically heavy-handed front-end menus).



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Fair enough. Four runs is pretty good for Legend.

Have you tried the "Power Pro" hitting? I'd be interested in hearing what you think of it.

I'm guessing you had to part with I-Rod, Lee, and some decent pitching (Spooneybarger?) to get what you did, which didn't sound particularly good (aging, expensive players)

Pitch ratings include a control factor, which is probably what's bringing down Wood's fastball to a 74 (still one of the best). Comparing a rating for one pitch to an overall rating is apples with oranges. Wood's got an overall rating of close to 90, I believe (overall ratings are all pushed up toward the 50+ side, while ratings for attributes use the full 1-100 scale).

There's a feature that never seems to have made it into the manual that allows you to put more juice on a pitch; the stamina system is set up expecting it to be used fairly often. If you still aren't getting the mph you want, you can edit the speed ratings for each of a pitcher's pitches.

I agree that the baserunning is conservative, but not to the degree that it "continually fails to take an easy extra base." The alternative is probably worse--being able to throw the CPU runners out with regularity (which seems to be an issue in several other games this year).

[scope7272]

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Man i feel bad now......sorry about that whipsmart.
Seemed kind of strange that someone would be this nice, and answer questions for us, even though they aren't trying to promote or have an iffiliation with OS.
Thanx tho

[scope7272]

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Man i feel bad now......sorry about that whipsmart.
Seemed kind of strange that someone would be this nice, and answer questions for us, even though they aren't trying to promote or have an iffiliation with OS.
Thanx tho

[scope7272]

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In OPM they said that mvp is too timing based. Does this mean that the ability to hit the ball where you want does not play a very large roll in this game.

You said that mvp does have low scoring games.......does the cpu score a lot though? What is your record and what difficulty were you playing on?

[scope7272]

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In OPM they said that mvp is too timing based. Does this mean that the ability to hit the ball where you want does not play a very large roll in this game.

You said that mvp does have low scoring games.......does the cpu score a lot though? What is your record and what difficulty were you playing on?

[Cincinnati_Kid]

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whip thanks and keep it coming....

1.what seperates HH X from HH ps2 the most besides just graphical details........

2. how does the game feel using the xbox controller......as i have noticed alot of slow response on my rental version of ASB 2004.....and HH always felt really nice n natural on the ps2 analog

3.is the ambiance of wsb n mvp enough to bridge the difference of high heats gameplay........or are the nuts n bolts of high heat still the standout at the end of the day when playing each game

4. does wsb now incorporate the homers going into the mccovey cove and or such things as found in last years Home Run King or is it still status qoue

5. just so we can get a brief glimpse at where your taste normally lie.....at the end of the day what were your chosen football n basketball titles

6. mark me down along with sportsordeath (hey how ya been sports)as someone who is also very curious about mlb when and if you get around to playing that title

7.would you be kind enough to do this again when and if you get INSIDE PITCH in a month or so

8. is there any differences between wsb n mvp on xbox to ps2 versions.......that would be as big a difference as your finding in the HIGH HEAT game...if so what and which one is preffered so far

9. whats for dinner, (just kidding) im getting kinda hungry

thanks for your time

[Cincinnati_Kid]

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whip thanks and keep it coming....

1.what seperates HH X from HH ps2 the most besides just graphical details........

2. how does the game feel using the xbox controller......as i have noticed alot of slow response on my rental version of ASB 2004.....and HH always felt really nice n natural on the ps2 analog

3.is the ambiance of wsb n mvp enough to bridge the difference of high heats gameplay........or are the nuts n bolts of high heat still the standout at the end of the day when playing each game

4. does wsb now incorporate the homers going into the mccovey cove and or such things as found in last years Home Run King or is it still status qoue

5. just so we can get a brief glimpse at where your taste normally lie.....at the end of the day what were your chosen football n basketball titles

6. mark me down along with sportsordeath (hey how ya been sports)as someone who is also very curious about mlb when and if you get around to playing that title

7.would you be kind enough to do this again when and if you get INSIDE PITCH in a month or so

8. is there any differences between wsb n mvp on xbox to ps2 versions.......that would be as big a difference as your finding in the HIGH HEAT game...if so what and which one is preffered so far

9. whats for dinner, (just kidding) im getting kinda hungry

thanks for your time

[famousmortimer]

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LOL Whip... It's funny that these are all the same people who doubted you last fall with all your football info (under a different name, I think)


They'll never learn.

[famousmortimer]

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LOL Whip... It's funny that these are all the same people who doubted you last fall with all your football info (under a different name, I think)


They'll never learn.

[LIGHTNING]

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I havent seen what the CPU deals around to other CPU teams...but in that case with the Marlins I also forgot to mention that I had Mike Cameron and Jason Varitek as well, so the lineup was even better than I had posted.

So yea, I assume it's not airtight.

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Here we have a guy that we are told has the games, but we cannot know who he is or who he works for or how he got the games? THAT my friend is blind faith.

[LIGHTNING]

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I havent seen what the CPU deals around to other CPU teams...but in that case with the Marlins I also forgot to mention that I had Mike Cameron and Jason Varitek as well, so the lineup was even better than I had posted.

So yea, I assume it's not airtight.

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Here we have a guy that we are told has the games, but we cannot know who he is or who he works for or how he got the games? THAT my friend is blind faith.

[SportsorDeath]

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BDitty already said that the guy is for real, so he obvously knows exactly who he is and where he works.

There is no need to doubt anymore.