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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #16
    Re: It's Girardi......

    Originally posted by ckarlic
    I think i heard last week that Pena said if he doesnt get the managerial position that he still wants to be a coach on the Yankees in some sort.
    Yeah, Pena did say that. Smart man.
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    • ckarlic
      So Real!!
      • May 2003
      • 4999

      #17
      Re: It's Girardi......

      Originally posted by ehh
      Yeah, Pena did say that. Smart man.
      Not so sure about Bowa though.
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      • nyyanksfan20
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 1650

        #18
        Re: It's Girardi......

        Originally posted by ckarlic
        Not so sure about Bowa though.
        He was ready to accept the 3rd base job with Seattle. I'd guess he's gone.
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        • Sandman42
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2004
          • 15186

          #19
          Re: It's Girardi......

          Originally posted by ehh
          You want them to pick up the $16m/per on Abreu? I dunno about that, he's not worth anywhere near that.
          Yeah, but with A-Rod gone Abreu is probably the Yankees best offensive threat next to Posada if he gets resigned. He struggled early on, but he went back to the old Abreu from June onwards. Also if they don't resign him what are they going to do about RF? Moving Matsui over there would sort of make sense, but they would lose a lot of depth on the bench by doing that. There's also the possibility of signing Fukodome, but I don't know how much of an improvement he would be over Abreu.
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          • NYJets
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 18637

            #20
            Re: It's Girardi......

            Bringing Abreu back is a no brainer.
            Originally posted by Jay Bilas
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            • ehh
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2003
              • 28962

              #21
              Re: It's Girardi......

              Originally posted by Sandman42
              Yeah, but with A-Rod gone Abreu is probably the Yankees best offensive threat next to Posada if he gets resigned. He struggled early on, but he went back to the old Abreu from June onwards. Also if they don't resign him what are they going to do about RF? Moving Matsui over there would sort of make sense, but they would lose a lot of depth on the bench by doing that. There's also the possibility of signing Fukodome, but I don't know how much of an improvement he would be over Abreu.
              What is the situation with Fukudome? Is there a huge tag on him like Dice-K just to talk to him?

              I like Abreu, especially his patience at the plate, but for $16m I'm not so sure. We could use that money to try and sign Hunter to get a right-handed bat in the lineup and an upgrade in the field. Then move Melky back to LF and have Matsui or Fukudome in RF. Of course the advantage to Abreu is that it's only for one more year where we'd have to sign Hunter for at least three years. We'd probably have to look ahead and see what the FA OF crop looks like next winter.

              I guess we'll have to wait and see what The Sons' strategy is for the current crop of FA's.



              EDIT:

              A little info on Fukudome...


              The 2006 Central League MVP, Kosuke Fukudome (nicknamed "Dome"<sup class="reference" id="_ref-0">[1]</sup>) is an unrestricted free agent at the end of the 2007 season and is considering entering MLB.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-1">[2]</sup> Because of his contract status, Fukudome will not need to go through the posting system that Daisuke Matsuzaka endured. Jayson Stark quotes an MLB front office exec who suggests that Fukudome will be the biggest name on MLB's 2007-2008 free agent market.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-2">[3]</sup> Per one report, the Boston Red Sox, Texas Rangers, Seattle Mariners, and the San Francisco Giants have expressed interest in signing Fukudome.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-3">[4]</sup>. Fukudome is set to earn about $3.15m (in Yen equivalent) in 2006<sup class="reference" id="_ref-4">[5]</sup>, and may command a four to five year deal worth $10m-$12m or more annually in the U.S.<sup class="reference" id="_ref-5">[6]</sup>
              Last edited by ehh; 10-29-2007, 12:56 PM.
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              • deeman11747
                G-M*nnnn
                • Feb 2003
                • 3194

                #22
                Re: It's Girardi......

                I wonder how this will affect Posada's status. I always wondered if there was any resentment towards Posada for taking Girardi's job in 97.

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                • NYJets
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 18637

                  #23
                  Re: It's Girardi......

                  Originally posted by deeman11747
                  I wonder how this will affect Posada's status. I always wondered if there was any resentment towards Posada for taking Girardi's job in 97.
                  I read a few days ago that a "source close to Posada" said he's uncomfortable with Girardi as manager, and it's based on Girardi's time as bench coach.

                  Not a reliable source or anything, but something to think about.
                  Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                  The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28962

                    #24
                    Re: It's Girardi......

                    Originally posted by NYJets
                    I read a few days ago that a "source close to Posada" said he's uncomfortable with Girardi as manager, and it's based on Girardi's time as bench coach.

                    Not a reliable source or anything, but something to think about.
                    Posada is definitely the guy I can see leaving, and I think he could have a huge effect on Mo and Pettite - much more than Torre ever could.
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                    "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                    • wookie48
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1842

                      #25
                      Re: It's Girardi......

                      Ahhh yes, what would the yankees be without another italian manager. LOL

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                      • BagMan
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 291

                        #26
                        Re: It's Girardi......

                        Originally posted by wookie48
                        Ahhh yes, what would the yankees be without another italian manager. LOL
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                        • Gary Armida
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 2533

                          #27
                          Re: It's Girardi......

                          I can't argue with the choice, but I am disappointed that it's not Mattingly. Basically, an icon is going to be gone from the organization. I have no doubts that he would've been a good manager for this club. But, to turn the page...

                          Girardi is a good baseball man and should be good with the kids coming up. I do wonder how this impacts Posada, but we'll see. It's an exciting time for Yankee fans. We haven't seen this much of a shakeup since the 95 offseason.
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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #28
                            Re: It's Girardi......

                            Girardi was the best choice and should have been the only choice. To me, Mattingly only got a chance because he's Don Mattingly.

                            The Yankees are going to be in a huge dilemma if Posada leaves.
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                            • bravosfan
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5184

                              #29
                              Re: It's Girardi......

                              Originally posted by SPTO
                              Mazzone?

                              Oh man, with some of the young pitchers the Yanks got he'd do wonders with 'em. I don't think Mazzone would want to go to that pressure cooker of a situation tho and really, I can't see him in pinstripes.
                              Originally posted by Kashanova
                              yeah mazzone would do wonders with our young arms
                              The one knock on Mazzone has actually been his handling of young pitchers. He does great getting the most out of fringe veterans (John Burkett, Jaret Wright, Chris Hammond, Mike Remlinger, etc) but some feel his style doesn't really mesh so well with the youngsters.

                              Not saying I completely agree with it, but that's probably been the main criticism of him, especially recently.

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                              • Gary Armida
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 2533

                                #30
                                Re: It's Girardi......

                                Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                                Girardi was the best choice and should have been the only choice. To me, Mattingly only got a chance because he's Don Mattingly.

                                The Yankees are going to be in a huge dilemma if Posada leaves.
                                So, Don Mattingly with one year of bench coach and 2 (or 3, it's late, LOL) is not qualified to manage? Girardi was a bench coach for one year and then managed for one year. I think people make too much of Girardi's "experience" or Mattingly's lack thereof. They were both good candidates and either can do this job well. Mattingly's persona may have been better than Girardi's, but we'll see. I mean Girardi did manage to get fired while winning the MOY award. NY is alot tougher than Florida. Don't get me wrong, I like Girardi, but I don't think its a slam dunk choice like others.

                                Agreed about Posada. Although he getting up there in age and we probably saw his last great season, there are really no alternatives out there at all...zero.
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