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  • bkrich83
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    • Jul 2002
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    #166
    Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

    Originally posted by NYJets
    Yea, but neither of those teams have 1/3 of their payroll coming off the books either.
    None of those teams could have added $423 million in contracts. Even with 1/3 of their payroll coming off the books, the Yankees would still be in the Top 2 or 3 highest payrolls. Then they added those 3.

    It's ridiculous.
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    • Beantown
      #DoYourJob
      • Feb 2005
      • 31523

      #167
      Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

      Originally posted by bkrich83
      None of those teams could have added $423 million in contracts. Even with 1/3 of their payroll coming off the books, the Yankees would still be in the Top 2 or 3 highest payrolls. Then they added those 3.

      It's ridiculous.
      To be fair, the Red Sox probably could've spent 423 million dollars this off-season. Fenway has some of the most expensive seats in the league and sells out every game, so they have plenty of money (though, YES brings in a lot of revenue for the Yankees and I don't know how much, if significant at all, the Sox make from NESN) they just aren't as free with their spending as the Yankees.

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      • bkrich83
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        • Jul 2002
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        #168
        Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

        Originally posted by Longhorn
        To be fair, the Red Sox probably could've spent 423 million dollars this off-season. Fenway has some of the most expensive seats in the league and sells out every game, so they have plenty of money (though, YES brings in a lot of revenue for the Yankees and I don't know how much, if significant at all, the Sox make from NESN) they just aren't as free with their spending as the Yankees.

        Maybe. Maybe not. From what I understand they are tightening their belts some due to some other investments.

        Again, I don't blame the Yankees. They are a product of a poorly run league/organization. They have an unfair competitive advantage, and nothing will ever be done about it.

        Only their own ineptitiude has kept them from completely dominating the game.

        This bares the question. Is this kind of inequity good for the game?
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        • Beantown
          #DoYourJob
          • Feb 2005
          • 31523

          #169
          Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

          Originally posted by bkrich83
          Maybe. Maybe not. From what I understand they are tightening their belts some due to some other investments.

          Again, I don't blame the Yankees. They are a product of a poorly run league/organization. They have an unfair competitive advantage, and nothing will ever be done about it.

          Only their own ineptitiude has kept them from completely dominating the game.

          This bares the question. Is this kind of inequity good for the game?
          Oh, it wouldn't have been a smart move at all for the Sox to spend 423 million dollars, so I hope I didn't come across as saying that - I just meant, realistically from a financial standpoint only, they could have spent that. They may not have been able to absorb the blow had the players not panned out, though, like the Yankees can.

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          • bkrich83
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            #170
            Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

            Originally posted by Squint
            HAH....and then his wife castrated him.
            Probably be worth it.
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            • SportsTop
              The Few. The Proud.
              • Jul 2003
              • 6716

              #171
              Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

              Originally posted by bkrich83
              Probably be worth it.
              Meh....she's a USC fan. Probably just end up choking right when you really need her to perform. :wink:
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              • bkrich83
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                #172
                Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                Originally posted by Squint
                Meh....she's a USC fan. Probably just end up choking right when you really need her to perform. :wink:
                Well I would be a heavy underdog to get her, so I'd probably win.
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                • Mo
                  SSN
                  • May 2003
                  • 11425

                  #173
                  Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                  Originally posted by Longhorn
                  Whoa, whoa whoa...the 2004 Red Sox bought the World Series win?

                  With who? They signed Foulke that season, yes, but everyone else was either traded for (Schilling and Cabrera) or was on their roster, or a cheaper pick-up. Terrible, terrible example...or maybe I'm just completely missing something.

                  And no, there wouldn't be as much animosity towards Boston or LA because neither of those teams spent an extra 220 million plus on two other players this off-season.
                  Well that's sorta my point, no fan wants to think their team "bought" a championship. Though when looking at some of the arguments in this thread about the Yankees and Homegrown players, that there trying to buy a title because they don't have homegrown player, but when looking at that 2004 team(and I'm sure this can be found on a lot of recent title winners) only Nixon, and Youkilis were homegrown players, (there might be a middle reliever or two that fit that category as well, haven't look at it close enough)

                  My point is that team don't win titles with homegrown players anymore, they make acquisitions and sometimes they overpay for them, so that argument, in my eyes doesn't hold water. Oh and the Red Soxs increased their salary from 03 to 04 by 27 millions, obviously it was well spent.
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                  • Misfit
                    All Star
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 5766

                    #174
                    Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                    Originally posted by NYJets
                    Yea, but neither of those teams have 1/3 of their payroll coming off the books either.
                    I hate that argument, it's silly. That argument assumes that it's ok for the Yankees to have a 200 million dollar payroll. After losing a third of their payroll it just brought them down to around the number 2 payroll in baseball.

                    But, it is ok within the rules of baseball. The Yankees can spend all they want, but the notion that having a 150 million dollar payroll is far too low is just absurd.

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                    • SportsTop
                      The Few. The Proud.
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 6716

                      #175
                      Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                      Originally posted by Misfit
                      I hate that argument, it's silly. That argument assumes that it's ok for the Yankees to have a 200 million dollar payroll. After losing a third of their payroll it just brought them down to around the number 2 payroll in baseball.

                      But, it is ok within the rules of baseball. The Yankees can spend all they want, but the notion that having a 150 million dollar payroll is far too low is just absurd.
                      I think the better measurement would be what percentage of actual earnings does each team spend on their payroll.

                      The Yankees may have an astronomical payroll, but is it around the same percentage of their annual overall income from attendance revenue, YES Network, merchandise, etc. as the Milwaukee Brewers?

                      It may not be fair, but that onus is on MLB and not on the New York Yankees.
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                      • Misfit
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                        • Mar 2003
                        • 5766

                        #176
                        Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                        Which was exactly my point in my previous post. Baseball is the enabler here, the Yankees are just taking advantage of the system (and other teams are as well, just not to the same level of excess).

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                        • Kashanova
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 12695

                          #177
                          Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                          who cares what their payroll is, it's not like the yankees have 100 championships, and it's not like other teams can't spend money, what is ruining baseball is owners like the padres owner or selig not letting cuban buy the cubs that's bad for baseball

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                          • bkrich83
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                            #178
                            Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                            Originally posted by Misfit
                            Which was exactly my point in my previous post. Baseball is the enabler here, the Yankees are just taking advantage of the system (and other teams are as well, just not to the same level of excess).
                            Absolutely. They are the symptom of a much larger problem. Baseball itself is the root cause.
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                            • NYJets
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 18637

                              #179
                              Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                              Originally posted by Misfit
                              I hate that argument, it's silly. That argument assumes that it's ok for the Yankees to have a 200 million dollar payroll. After losing a third of their payroll it just brought them down to around the number 2 payroll in baseball.

                              But, it is ok within the rules of baseball. The Yankees can spend all they want, but the notion that having a 150 million dollar payroll is far too low is just absurd.
                              Well if the whole argument is that the Yankees shouldn't have a $200 million payroll, I mean how long are we going to complain about this? They've had a 200 million payroll for what, 4 years? Why do we need more outrage after every move they make?

                              We get it, the Yankees can spend more money than everyone else, and it's unfair.
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                              • RAZRr1275
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                                #180
                                Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                                This is pathetic. The Yankees have all these good players and their still going to lose. These players could go to better use of they were on other teams.
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