In his defense, I can see how he could get it mixed up. The man did play for 20+ years and in thousands of games, so I'm sure the details have all run together.
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In his defense, I can see how he could get it mixed up. The man did play for 20+ years and in thousands of games, so I'm sure the details have all run together."People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby -
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I'm not even really sure what he's trying to say. If I read that just on some random small website or blog, I would think it was an article making fun of people who bash stats.
There was a great comment:
"I can totally relate Harold. I am a farmer and I can't believe how science has taken over the agriculture business. Like I had an old neighbor who was much like Dick Williams. He said, "If something is going wrong with your crops, then the situation will dictate what to do. Like, if rain is your problem, then sacrifice two goats or one pig. If pests are your problem, then yell at the moon for a forenight and bury three red stones in your field. Problem solved. But I shouldn't have to tell you beforehand, you should know this." Now days they have fancy inventions like irrigation, meteorology, crop rotations, and fertilizers. I am like, "Phooey and bunk!" I am just like you Harold, I don't need their new fangled theories and hocus-pocus in order to understand farming better. I mean a meteorologist has never farmed, what can he tell me or my old neighbor about farming? We reached the pinnacle of understanding with yelling at the moon! The point is that I have nothing left to learn just like you, Harold."Last edited by NYJets; 06-19-2009, 05:03 PM.Originally posted by Jay BilasThe question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConnComment
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Harold Reynolds with possibly the most ******** thing ever written.
http://haroldreynolds.mlblogs.com/ar...its_worth.htmlrated 1.24 by 234 peopleComment
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Harold Reynolds with possibly the most ******** thing ever written.
http://haroldreynolds.mlblogs.com/ar...its_worth.html
How hard is it for folks to understand:
- you only get 27 outs in a game.
- Making outs is bad.
- OBP is how often you DON'T make outs.
- Therefore OBP is a VERY important statistic.
If I made a stat called "Out %" that was derived from subtracting OBP from 1.000, I bet it would get viewed differently."People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers HornsbyComment
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Goodness Harold. And I once thought it was a bad thing for ESPN to fire you.
Well, I take that back. As one person mentioned, Harold know positioning and the art of the game. He has a coach's head. He, however, does not have an analyst's or GM's head - an ability to identify and evaluate talent."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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Well, I mean not exactly. If you reach on an error, a fielder's choice where everybody is safe, or a dropped third strike, your OBP is affected. Likewise, if you successfully sacrifice bunt, it is not affected.
I understand why it's like that, but basically you can't define it as "how often you don't make an out." I'd say it like "The rate at which a given player is awarded a base safely per plate appearance."
But no matter, we both agree on how important it is. It just isn't a tell-all stat (what is?).Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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Originally posted by Some guy on the commentsYou sir, are an idiotComment
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Of course it isn't. But "analysts" like Reynolds and blowhard journalists act like people say that so they can knock down those easy strawmen.
Person with rational argument: "Player X is better than Player Y because of this, this, this, and this."
Blowhard analyst: "OPS isn't everything."
Person with rational argument: *sigh*Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists AssociationComment
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It'll never end.
They feel threatened by a new wave of information and they are stubborn baseball people that only remember the game one way.
It's the arguments they use that really aggravate the stat heads. It's always been considered foolish to just say that Player A is better than Player B because of OPS. There's a reason it's called stats and not stat. Reynolds really disappointed me with that piece. I thought he was above that but I was wrong.
I was just reading about John Brennan being passed over for CIA-head and a friend of his complained that he lost out on the position because "a few Cheeto-eating people in the basement working in their underwear who write blogs voiced objections."
This perception of people that like to analyze and voice their opinion using a tool that allows them to spread information with a single click of a button doesn't just exist in baseball. People don't want to adapt and they fear change.
Again, I thought maybe Reynolds was young enough to be willing to listen and realize the truth, but nah, he's not."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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Originally posted by Ken "Hawk" Harelson-Play by play broadcaster for the Chicago WhitesoxI am a firm believer that we will win the Central--especially because we havee the best bullpen in the american league.Comment
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Why just color?
Maybe he's just completely blind."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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