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  • vinny_b
    R**k**
    • Jul 2002
    • 535

    #1

    a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

    Given that the Yanks organization is admitedley 'bottom-less' yet insightful and at times rather shrewd. Am thinking if the front office may be thinking along some of these ideas:


    1) Trade Giambi. No, not cuz of his current slump. But rather, Nick Johnson's 2003 early campaign. If he hasn't arrived, then he's fooling *us*. Has essentially a .500 obp. No typeo. Problem is, he's a better first baseman (by all the experts at least) and he feels more comfortable playing in the field versus DH'ing. Well, Giambi also prefers to play in the field, thus the trade proposal. Keep the younger/cheaper/farmbread player, and trade the other.


    2) Sign Vlad (preferably in the off-season). Like Soriano in many respects, a player with his skills comes along few occasions in a lifetime. He is *the* caliber of player you build (or maintain) your organization around. Not to mention, he has a gun in RF, which will replace Cannon Modesi following his 2003 tenure.

    3) Keep keen eyes/ears open for a legitimate CF. Bernie is my fave player on the team, would have to say. His shoulders are holding up well this season (knock on wood), and he's off to a niice start. However, the Yanks would benefit mightily by a AJones/CBeltran/MCameron level of CF (db of course AJones has no peer). Given Bernie's age, hx of shoulder ailments, and switch-hitting ability, moving into the Yanks full-time DH slot would be a natural, i would think.
  • ryan36
    7 dirty words...
    • Feb 2003
    • 10139

    #2
    Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

    so basically you wanna replace giambi's bat with mike cameron's? i suppose you could look at it like replacing giambi with guererro...and mondesi with cameron/beltran etc...
    I dunno...I don't think nick johnson will be as good as giambi. IMO, of course...

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    • ryan36
      7 dirty words...
      • Feb 2003
      • 10139

      #3
      Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

      so basically you wanna replace giambi's bat with mike cameron's? i suppose you could look at it like replacing giambi with guererro...and mondesi with cameron/beltran etc...
      I dunno...I don't think nick johnson will be as good as giambi. IMO, of course...

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      • thecomic
        MVP
        • Apr 2003
        • 911

        #4
        Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

        Who would the Yanks get for Giambi? I don't think there is anyone available of that caliber, especially as long as the expos are still in it, which should be at least 'till after the trading deadline. Steinbrenner wouldn't make a trade just to unload salary, he'd rather have the 2 good players 1) in case of injury. and 2) so nobody else has them.

        The Yankees remind me of the pre salary cap 49ers. They keep good players they don't have a spot for just so other teams don't have them. It pisses us off, but really its very smart.

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        • thecomic
          MVP
          • Apr 2003
          • 911

          #5
          Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

          Who would the Yanks get for Giambi? I don't think there is anyone available of that caliber, especially as long as the expos are still in it, which should be at least 'till after the trading deadline. Steinbrenner wouldn't make a trade just to unload salary, he'd rather have the 2 good players 1) in case of injury. and 2) so nobody else has them.

          The Yankees remind me of the pre salary cap 49ers. They keep good players they don't have a spot for just so other teams don't have them. It pisses us off, but really its very smart.

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          • VanillaEps
            MVP
            • Mar 2003
            • 1316

            #6
            Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

            An example of that is Bubba Trammell. He's a pretty good hitter and would be better off on a team where he can play everyday. Instead he's on a team where he gets to maybe 3-6 AB a week.

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            • VanillaEps
              MVP
              • Mar 2003
              • 1316

              #7
              Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

              An example of that is Bubba Trammell. He's a pretty good hitter and would be better off on a team where he can play everyday. Instead he's on a team where he gets to maybe 3-6 AB a week.

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              • MSRoble33
                MVP
                • Aug 2002
                • 1840

                #8
                Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

                Canseco and Gerald Williams and Henry Rodriguez were also examples of this. Granted none were impact players, but they were solid... actually Oh Henry was playing excellent ball when he got picked up by NY and never seen major league playtime again.

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                • MSRoble33
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 1840

                  #9
                  Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

                  Canseco and Gerald Williams and Henry Rodriguez were also examples of this. Granted none were impact players, but they were solid... actually Oh Henry was playing excellent ball when he got picked up by NY and never seen major league playtime again.

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                  • capa
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5321

                    #10
                    Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

                    How can you trade Giambi to replace him with an unproven player (Johnson) who seems pretty fragile to me physically?

                    And remember, the Yanks understand the importance of pitching, and after this year they will need to replace Wells, Clemens, and possibly others. There $$ will be better spent in that dept than trying to land Vlad to replace Giambi basically. They are already deep offensively...they'll need to retool in the pitching dept.

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                    • capa
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 5321

                      #11
                      Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

                      How can you trade Giambi to replace him with an unproven player (Johnson) who seems pretty fragile to me physically?

                      And remember, the Yanks understand the importance of pitching, and after this year they will need to replace Wells, Clemens, and possibly others. There $$ will be better spent in that dept than trying to land Vlad to replace Giambi basically. They are already deep offensively...they'll need to retool in the pitching dept.

                      C

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                      • wawasman
                        P*ng
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1531

                        #12
                        Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

                        the way i understand it, the projected yanks rotation for 2k4 is...Mussina, Pettitte, Weaver, Lieber, Contreras...potentially very good...and without Mondesi and Hitchcock, thats another 12 mil or so to blow on their annual "6th" starter

                        oh, and keep Giambi til he's old, he's just too damn good.......i would, however, trade Nick Johnson if the right offer came along

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                        • wawasman
                          P*ng
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1531

                          #13
                          Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...

                          the way i understand it, the projected yanks rotation for 2k4 is...Mussina, Pettitte, Weaver, Lieber, Contreras...potentially very good...and without Mondesi and Hitchcock, thats another 12 mil or so to blow on their annual "6th" starter

                          oh, and keep Giambi til he's old, he's just too damn good.......i would, however, trade Nick Johnson if the right offer came along

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                          • vinny_b
                            R**k**
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 535

                            #14
                            Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...


                            the following lineup would be ideal:


                            1) Soriano, 2b

                            2) Jeter, ss

                            3) Giambi, 1b

                            4) Bernie Williams, dh

                            5) Vlad, rf

                            6) Jorge Posada, c

                            7) Adruw Jones, cf

                            8) Robin Ventura, 3b

                            9) Matsui, lf

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                            • vinny_b
                              R**k**
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 535

                              #15
                              Re: a look at the Yanks 2004 lineup...


                              the following lineup would be ideal:


                              1) Soriano, 2b

                              2) Jeter, ss

                              3) Giambi, 1b

                              4) Bernie Williams, dh

                              5) Vlad, rf

                              6) Jorge Posada, c

                              7) Adruw Jones, cf

                              8) Robin Ventura, 3b

                              9) Matsui, lf

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