You got WHO for HIM??

[kehlis]

Re: You got WHO for HIM??

Yeah, I can thankfully say that in the course of Jays history they've ripped teams off more then they've been ripped off.

The A's got a pretty good deal for Rickey Henderson when they got Steve Karsay and Javier Herrera when they gave him to you for half a season and then signed him back!

Just wanted to throw that out there!

[BunnyHardaway]

Re: You got WHO for HIM??

Orioles acquire OF Adam Jones, RP George Sherrill, SP Chris Tillman, RP Kam Mickolio, SP Tony Butler from Mariners for SP Erik Bedard

Bedard has been good but oft-injured. Jones is now an AS as is Flat Breezy, Tillman is one of the best pitching prospects in the game, and Mickolio looks like he'll be a dependable bullpen arm. Butler got hurt last season, but still a woodshed beating put on by MacPhail.

Orioles acquire OF Frank Robinson from Reds for SP Milt Pappas, RP Jack Baldschun, OF Dick Simpson

Robinson continued his HOF career and won the AL Triple Crown in his first year, leading the O's to a championship. Nothing ever came of any of the guys the Reds got in return

[rsox]

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The Red Sox

A few head scratchers:
Jeff Bagwell to Houston for Larry Andersen.

Curt Schilling and Brady Anderson to Baltimore for Mike Boddicker

Jose Canseco for John Wasdin

A couple of deals that didn't pan out for anyone
Scott Cooper to St.Louis for Mark Whiten

Mark Whiten to Philadelphia for Dave Hollins

A few steals:
Pedro Martinez from Montreal for Tony Armas Jr. and Carl Pavano

Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek from Seattle for Heathcliff Slocumb

Jose Canseco from Texas for Otis Nixon and Luis Ortiz

[pfunk880]

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Most of Milwaukee's deals in the last few years have been good (Richie Sexson trade especially). The only really bad ones, IMO, would be throwing in Nelson Cruz when they traded Carlos Lee (though there really wasn't a spot for Cruz at the time and he wasn't in Milwaukee's plans), and acquiring Johnny Estrada two years ago.

[Chizzypoof]

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Giants:

Joe Nathan and Francisco Liriano for A.J.Pierzynski

[TheMatrix31]

Re: You got WHO for HIM??

1987 - John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander.

[Kruza]

Re: You got WHO for HIM??

1987 - John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander.

Heh, what in the world are you complaining about with that deal? I can't knock the deal since Alexander did help the Tigers win the pennant that year during that stretch run in September. But you guys got the sure fire Hall of Fame pitcher who helped get the Braves deep into the playoffs year after year.

Anyway, as a Tigers fan only one recent trade sticks out to me like a sore thumb:

Edgar Renteria for Jair Jurrjens - As for Renteria, he has been playing well recently... for the Giants. He didn't do a ******* thing for the Tigers. Meanwhile, Jurrjens has turned out to be one of the best starting pitchers for the Braves ever since he's been on that team. My blood still boils from that deal.

Kruza

[slickdtc]

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For the A's:

Aaron Harang: Most people don't remember when Harang was bouncing in between AAA and being the A's fifth starter. He was eventually traded along with another minor leaguer for Randy Velarde in 2000. Yes, a win now trade for the A's, but if they had kept him for a few more years, we see what may have happend.

I think you have this one mixed up.

30-Jul-03: Oakland Athletics traded Aaron Harang, Jeff Bruksch and Joe Valentine to the Cincinnati Reds for Jose Guillen.

Thanks!

Harang was a complete horse for us 2005-2007. Over 200 innings each year, tons of strikeouts, and an ERA in the 3's. Never got consideration for NL Cy Young in 06 and 07 because Webb was killin' it and Harang only had 16 wins in each year but was in the top 10 in every other pitching category. The man is a beast. I was disappointed that he fell off last year but he seems to have gotten it back a bit... but as usual, his run support is absolutely terrible. I'd have to say he's probably one of the top most underrated players in baseball.

[TeixeiraFanatic]

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Cardinals:

• Traded Dan Haren, Kiko Calero, and Daric Barton to Oakland for Mark Mulder.

• Traded Ernie Broglio to Chicago Cubs for LOU BROCK!

Rangers:

• Traded Eric Gagne to Red Sox for David Murphy, Kason Gabbard(ugh), and Engel Beltre.

[Gibbz]

Re: You got WHO for HIM??

Salty has been a disappointment so far. Harrison has been terrible. Jones has been bad in the minors. Andrus and Feliz are very promising, but haven't really proven anything yet.

It might end up being a real bad trade for the Braves, but I wouldn't go that far yet.

It's already a mugging of the Braves. How is it not, since Atlanta did nothing with Tex and now have 5 promising young players less?


Also, how has Andrus not proven anything yet? He's got more range than any shortstop in the majors and has good patience at the plate for his age.

[P2K]

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Phillies send Curt Schilling to Arizona for Travis Lee, Vicente Padilla, Omar Daal and Nelson Figueroa

[Coug00]

Re: You got WHO for HIM??

The entire Bavasi era with the Mariners is filled with these...

Traded away Rafael Soriano for Horacio Ramirez (ATL).

Traded away Carlos Guillen for Ramon Santiago and the other Juan Gonzalez (DET).

Traded away Randy Winn for Jesse Foppert (SF).

As already mentioned Cabrera for Eduardo Perez. Shin-Soo Choo for Broussard (CLE). Bedard for everyone but Ichiro and Felix (BAL).

I'm loving Zduriencik's trade with NYM/Cle for Franklin Gutierrez, Endy Chavez, Mike Carp, etc. for Putz, Green, Reed, and Valbuena.


Some historical ones from the M's.

Acquiring Heathcliff Slocumb for Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe (BOS).

Acquired Randy Johnson, Brian Holman (was good before injury), and Gene Harris for Mark Langston (MON).

Acquired Jay Buhner for Ken Phelp's bat (NYY).

Acquired Sterling Hitchcock and Russ Davis for Jeff Nelson and Tino Martinez (NYY). Doh!

[SPTO]

Re: You got WHO for HIM??

Here's one of my favorite trades where the Jays fleeced the other team

7/6/86 Jays trade Doyle Alexander to Braves for Duane Ward

MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

[ryan36]

Re: You got WHO for HIM??

More Mariners,
Between 1991 and 1992 the Mariners trade to SF (92 stats):

Bill Swift 10-4 2.08 30G, 22GS (would win 21 the following year)
Mike Jackson 6-6 3.73 67GS
Dave Burba 2-7 4.97 23G 11GS

..and recieve one year of....
Kevin Mithcell .286 9hr 67rbi and then got hurt. it's ok , they sucked anyway...because they couldn't , I don't know...pitch

And Mike Hampton for Eric Anthony

[Gibbz]

Re: You got WHO for HIM??

Rangers trade Esteban Loaiza to Toronto for Michael Young. I'm a fan of that one.