ALDS: Twins vs Yankees

[Sandman42]

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What a fail by the umps in this game. We all know about the blown call, and we can all speculate as to what would have happened if that was correctly called a double. For me, I will put my money on a run with Kubel and Cuddyer coming up there. But both sides should be angry at the horrible game called by the home plate umpire. He wasn't even close to consistent with his calls and both sides got completely jobbed by his moveable strike zone. Man I hate it when the home plate umpire forces his will upon the game. The second worst call of the game was his decision to decide that Kubel swung at a 2-0 pitch instead of allowing for an appeal. He wasn't even close. A 3-0 count there is huge, and he took it away. Man I hate that kind of ****.

I didn't think the strike zone was that inconsistent. It was just really big. He was constantly calling that up and away pitch a strike even when it was a couple inches outside of the zone.

If it turned out Mauer got the double there is no way Marte would have pitched to the next batter. Robertson or Gaudin would have been in.

Kubel was up next, so Marte would have probably stayed in the game to try and get him out.

[djep]

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If it turned out Mauer got the double there is no way Marte would have pitched to the next batter. Robertson or Gaudin would have been in.

I don't know about that. I'm not sure but was Kubel up after Mauer or was it Cuddyer? I don't see removing the lefty to bring in the righty to face Kubel. But Marte probably would've pitched Kubel a lot more carefully with an RISP.

If I were a Twins fan I would be more upset about Gomez. Horrible baserunning to cost them a run in the 4th and to with the bases loaded and 1 out in the 11th he hacked at a pitcher's pitch on the very first pitch. You have to look for a pitch to drive in that situation. I can understand swinging at that pitch with 2 strikes but not on the very first pitch.

[pimpmonsta]

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Its funny how this could have been an non-story if the Twins got a base hit with the bases loaded with no outs. Even as a Yankee fan i can say that was a fair ball, but still that not the reason they lost........


Not getting a hit with bases loaded with no outs is why the twins lost.

Which bring up another thing.... Is all Twins do is compain?


Game 1 = "we were tired cause we couldn't win our division in the 162 games provide by the MLB.'' not because they couldn't get anything from C.C

Game 2 = "that ump was blind, Mauer should be at second right now" which is funny cause they wouldn't have been in that position if they could close in the 9th. And all this people saying "we would of gotten a run if he was on second" is hilarious since no can tell the future in here. plus, how can u expect them to score with a man on second if they can't score with man on first,second, and third ? THE TWINS CHOKED!!! Just accept it as what it is ,they choked. get ready for game 3 and hope the twins can bat in runs.

[Whitesox]

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Its funny how this could have been an non-story if the Twins got a base hit with the bases loaded with no outs. Even as a Yankee fan i can say that was a fair ball, but still that not the reason they lost........


Not getting a hit with bases loaded with no outs is why the twins lost.

Which bring up another thing.... Is all Twins do is compain?


Game 1 = "we were tired cause we couldn't win our division in the 162 games provide by the MLB.'' not because they couldn't get anything from C.C

Game 2 = "that ump was blind, Mauer should be at second right now" which is funny cause they wouldn't have been in that position if they could close in the 9th. And all this people saying "we would of gotten a run if he was on second" is hilarious since no can tell the future in here. plus, how can u expect them to score with a man on second if they can't score with man on first,second, and third ? THE TWINS CHOKED!!! Just accept it as what it is ,they choked. get ready for game 3 and hope the twins can bat in runs.

Don't even try to say that you wouldn't feel the same if it happened to the Yankees (or your favorite team)

[pimpmonsta]

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Don't even try to say that you wouldn't feel the same if it happened to the Yankees (or your favorite team)

i would be more pissed at my team if we couldn't get a hit with bases loaded than if a ump blow a call cause thats part of the game

[Wet Bandit]

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I think we can all agree that we would have liked to have seen what would have happened had the umpire not inexcusably blown that call. Maybe the Twins take the lead and hold on, maybe they strand some runners and Tex wins it in the next half. Who knows? But I'm guessing all of us would have liked to have seen the game completely decided by the players, and not affected, in whatever way, by that terrible call.

Hopefully the MLB will look at this and decide it's a good idea to expand instant replay, which it obviously is. There's no good reason replay shouldn't be used on stuff like fair/foul, whether or not a tag was in time, or whether a guy beat the ball to the base. Those aren't judgement calls, they're black-and-white "either this happened or it didn't" calls that need to be replayable. We're less than halfway through the first round of the playoffs and we've already seen multiple times replay could have been used to make the games better.

[Yanks22]

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well nobody in here seems to remember the other night in the twins/tigers tiebreaker with the bases loaded Inge was clearly hit on the uniform by the pitch and the homeplate ump did not award him 1st base. that would of walked in a run but the twins got lucky on that one, so why don't we all shut up about this now. calls and blown all the time against every single team, the yankees arent the only ones in baseball that benefit and cash in on these blown calls.

[Blzer]

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i would be more pissed at my team if we couldn't get a hit with bases loaded than if a ump blow a call cause thats part of the game

As a Giants fan, that's how I am. The umpire issue is something completely different for me. It's a pet peeve that these professional officials can't see and make correct calls. I tell you, I cringe and moan each time that a top play shows a runner completely safe, yet because it was a snazzy first half of the play and they were the home team the umpire decides to catch himself in the moment. It's an embarrassment that these guys are allowed to call games and I'm not. I don't mean that realistically, like I should be out there... but I guarantee you that given my umpiring history, at least I know what I'm doing out there.

How the left field umpire missed that call is beyond me (remember, he was the left field umpire, not the third base umpire). I really hope these guys get punished in some way, even if it's a slap on the wrist. Because these are the playoffs supposedly these umpires are supposed to be the best of the best. Well, nobody misses that call, and I mean nobody. That being said, something needs to happen, especially if the Yankees "got a call."

I pity the fool.

[Wet Bandit]

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Gotta love Mauer:

MVP-in-waiting Mauer, who takes reasonableness to a new level, actually singled after having his double taken away. And since Jason Kubel followed with a single through the hole between first and second base, Mauer noted how the hole was bigger for Kubel with him being held at first, suggesting the situation might not have been better had the correct call been made. Perhaps thinking of the 17 men the Twins left on base and one hellacious baserunning blunder by Carlos Gomez, Mauer said, "We could have won the game earlier.''

[mvb34]

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Its funny how this could have been an non-story if the Twins got a base hit with the bases loaded with no outs. Even as a Yankee fan i can say that was a fair ball, but still that not the reason they lost........


Not getting a hit with bases loaded with no outs is why the twins lost.

Which bring up another thing.... Is all Twins do is compain?


Game 1 = "we were tired cause we couldn't win our division in the 162 games provide by the MLB.'' not because they couldn't get anything from C.C

Game 2 = "that ump was blind, Mauer should be at second right now" which is funny cause they wouldn't have been in that position if they could close in the 9th. And all this people saying "we would of gotten a run if he was on second" is hilarious since no can tell the future in here. plus, how can u expect them to score with a man on second if they can't score with man on first,second, and third ? THE TWINS CHOKED!!! Just accept it as what it is ,they choked. get ready for game 3 and hope the twins can bat in runs.

I'm sorry I haven't read where any Twins players or front office have been complaining.

[pimpmonsta]

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I'm sorry I haven't read where any Twins players or front office have been complaining.

look at the game 1 highlight and the comments after both games.

[SPTO]

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Gotta love Mauer:

Mauer seems to be the Spock of the Twins

[CMH]

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Gotta love Mauer:

Even with no hole, Mauer goes to third with one out.

The situation changed.

[SpacemanSpiff]

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Right but he's saying the situation might not have been better than what the Twins ended up having, which was bases loaded and no one out. The same pitches wouldn't have happened which makes this whole "what-if" situation worthless but I think Mauer's saying they didn't get jobbed of much since they couldn't have had better than bases loaded and no outs and they still didn't get it done. He understands no matter what, failing to drive in a run with the bases juiced and no one out comes down to the hitters on the team.

With that said, it's sad that an ump has one responsibility in the game "to watch the line down the left field line" and he somehow messes that up. Hate that it ruins what was otherwise an amazing game. Oh and the home plate ump was equally atrocious, making bad calls for both teams.

[Wet Bandit]

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Kubel is 1-11 with 7 K's so far this series. That is almost literally unbelievable. He hit .300 this year. 8th in the AL in slugging. 11th in OPS. And now he can't even hit the ball.