Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

[Ghost Of The Year]

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https://youtu.be/2nai3gTvVUI?si=IWhuGSF2GzMoOABu

This is a little highlight of Adrian Beltre. This is what made him such a fan favorite. Great ball player but a really good sense of humor.

Put Beltre's stats aside, you still have a HoF'er. It was always refreshing to have Beltre be able to make you forget (for a moment anyway) that today's professional baseball is more business than sport. Beltre brought a kid's enthusiasm to the field that was sorely lacking for seemingly an eternity. Thankfully, in no small part because of Beltre, a lot of the guys that came up watching Beltre had some of his spirit rub off on those youths. Pitch clocks and reduced shifting isn't what will save baseball for future generations, it's people like Beltre, playing a game for fun. Now there's a novel idea.

[hitman23]

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Posada has never been particularly renowned for his defence or game-calling. If he gets in, it'll absolutely be for his hitting (and his association with the Yankees of this era). I'm pretty sure he'll make the HOF somewhere down the road. BTW, are we talking about WILL he or SHOULD he in this thread?

If Posada gets in, then Munson should be in.

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[Ghost Of The Year]

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If Posada gets in, then Munson should be in.

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Munson and Mattingly, most under-appreciated Steinbrenner era Yankees (where the HoF is concerned). If Mr. October was the straw that stirs the drink, Munson was the straw that stirred the straw.

[DrJones]

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Wait, someone's replying to my 2009 takes now? This thread is eating its own tail.

FWIW, I don't feel the same way now. Very much doubt Posada's ever gonna make it.

Frank Thomas will get in easily. Edgar's borderline. Baines won't make it in a million years.

It'll be interesting in about a decade when Ortiz becomes eligible. Rest assured the Boston media (including half of ESPN) will pushing HARD for Big Papi. After all, he's one of the only two clutch hitters in baseball history.

Then again, a lot can happen in a million years!

[Ghost Of The Year]

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Wait, someone's replying to my 2009 takes now? This thread is eating its own tail.

FWIW, I don't feel the same way now. Very much doubt Posada's ever gonna make it.



Then again, a lot can happen in a million years!

Technically you were right when you said Baines won't make it in a million years. He didn't make it in a million years, he made it in 18.

[Sportsforever]

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Does Cano stand a chance with his PED suspension? I think he was a lock without it...nearly 70 WAR at 2B, hit for average, power, gg defense, in New York. I'm guessing he'll get the ARod treatment....

[zello144]

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Does Cano stand a chance with his PED suspension? I think he was a lock without it...nearly 70 WAR at 2B, hit for average, power, gg defense, in New York. I'm guessing he'll get the ARod treatment....

No cano. Those PEDs hurt him and after he left the Yankees he fell off. That second half of his career is not good.

[Madden08PCgmr]

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No cano. Those PEDs hurt him and after he left the Yankees he fell off. That second half of his career is not good.

He had a solid run in Seattle. Not worth that absurd contract, but he was solid.

I still don't know how DiPoto duped the Mets into that trade? Cano was 35 years old.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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What about Joe Maddon and Terry Francona? I'm not sure either way about Francona but I'd tend to lean ''IN''. And if Davey Johnson isn't in, I don't know how Maddon is a HoF'er.

[reyes the roof]

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I still don't know how DiPoto duped the Mets into that trade? Cano was 35 years old.

Cano's agent went on to become the Mets GM that traded for him, that's how

[Ghost Of The Year]

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Cano's agent went on to become the Mets GM that traded for him, that's how

Plus, we never seem to be short on throw away money.

[Master Live 013]

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Historic win with the Cubs, 2 WS appearances plus being a leader in the analytics revolution at the managerial level. That's solid, but not overwhelming, for me it is probably a no.

Francona has a better case, again, historic win, 2 WS wins, 3 WS appearances plus broke the dam once and for all of bringing your best reliever at any point in the game, for high leverage situations, not necessarily the ninth with Andrew Miller. I wouldn't get on the way of him getting in.

[DrJones]

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Francona yes, Maddon no.

Francona is 13th all-time in manager wins (Maddon is 32nd), and everyone above him is in the Hall (except for Dusty and Bochy, who are going in as soon as they're eligible). Francona's teams made the postseason 11 times to Maddon's 8, and won more when they got there (.564 to .478 winning %).

Also, Maddon's lucky his mishandling of Chapman in G6/7 of the World Series didn't blow up in his face.

[Speedy]

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Does Cano stand a chance with his PED suspension? I think he was a lock without it...nearly 70 WAR at 2B, hit for average, power, gg defense, in New York. I'm guessing he'll get the ARod treatment....

Same with Manny.

Great player, who knows how long they juiced.

[Madden08PCgmr]

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Francona yes, Maddon no.

Francona is 13th all-time in manager wins (Maddon is 32nd), and everyone above him is in the Hall (except for Dusty and Bochy, who are going in as soon as they're eligible). Francona's teams made the postseason 11 times to Maddon's 8, and won more when they got there (.564 to .478 winning %).

Don't have any skin in the game, but I think Maddon deserves some credit for keeping that Rays team competitive while constantly jettisoning expensive pieces.