Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

[lhslancers]

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I agree that some names that are being thrown out or pretty far off. But recently I threw out the names of Berkman and Teixeira.. Guys I thought could be borderline, especially if Teixeira can put more solid years on his resume. Some may think I was an idiot, some may think those were good players to discuss.

If you know that a player is NOT a HOF, has no chance, and everyone else will think the same, then I see why there would be no point to throw his name out there.. but just because one person thinks it's stupid doesn't mean everyone will.

I was getting the feeling of "I know so much about baseball, everyone else is an idiot", so I spoke up. Just sick of the belittling.

The Hall of Very Good.

[DamnYanks2]

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No one to add right now, but I know Beltre was discussed a couple of pages back, and Grantland wrote a good article on him today worth sharing:
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-tr...-adrian-beltre

Great Article, Grantland is dat site.

[lhslancers]

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Roy Halladay. 203-105 I think lead the league in many categories for quite a few years. Low win total works against but I think he belongs.

[KMRblue1027]

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Halladay also has the narrative for his 2010 season. I would put him in becuase he basically was the best pitcher in the league for a number of years but the post-season no-hitter might carry weight in the HoF process even though it kinda shouldn't.

[55]

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Halladay certainly gets my vote.

[lhslancers]

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While never the greatest or close to in any one year Mike Mussina belongs. Andy Pettitte no.

[Majingir]

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Roy Halladay. 203-105 I think lead the league in many categories for quite a few years. Low win total works against but I think he belongs.

Sure, he has a low win TOTAL, but his career win% is one of the best of all time.

Only 5HOF pitchers have a better win% than Halladay(and only 1 pitcher has 15+ seasons,has a win% better than Halladay and not in the HOF(and that's Pedro,who I don't believe is even eligible yet)

[SPTO]

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I think Halladay may be on the leading edge of pitchers where the "milestone numbers" may not apply as much and you have to look at the total body of work + some of the more esoteric stats. One thing that Halladay has going for him is that IIRC 17% of his starts have been complete games. That's a mind boggling stat in this day and age of babying SP.

I say he'll probably get in but it won't be first ballot.

[AC]

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Halladay's a solid yes from me.

[bhurst99]

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Tough call. He had nine tremendous years in his 16-year career and was one of the best pitchers of his generation. But I'd be shocked if he made it on the first ballot. There were just so many years when he was on the Jays (and I'm a Jays fan) that he pitched in meaningless games.

It's why I'm surprised he retired when he did. A couple more good years and he'd be a lock but I guess his back couldn't do it.

[lhslancers]

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Tough call. He had nine tremendous years in his 16-year career and was one of the best pitchers of his generation. But I'd be shocked if he made it on the first ballot. There were just so many years when he was on the Jays (and I'm a Jays fan) that he pitched in meaningless games.

It's why I'm surprised he retired when he did. A couple more good years and he'd be a lock but I guess his back couldn't do it.

No way first ballot but he'll get in.

[BatsareBugs]

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Roy Halladay deserves to be the HOF. 2 Cy Young Awards (one in each league) while competing with the likes of Johan Santana for it in the AL. 8 All-Star Selections. Led the league 4 times in IPs and has pitched well above 200 innings in 8 of his 16 seasons. Led the league in complete games in seven seasons and in the modern era, his 67 career CGs is far more than the next active pitcher (67 to C.C. Sabathia's 37). His career K/BB ratio is good for 16th all time.

Yeah, maybe not first ballot, but he should get in easily.

[lhslancers]

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Jim Thome. Not too many guys have hit over 600 HR. One dimensional player but OBP is over .400 I believe. Probably clean I think he gets in. Obviously not a first ballot guy but should squeak in down the road.

[snepp]

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Thome is an absolute lock for me.

[55]

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Career OPS over .950 with more than 10,000 PA and 73ish WAR = lock.