2b was too deep to get there in time...if he sprints in, all his momentum going forward, he's got a barehand play and throw on the run...Cabrera taking that ball is actually a quicker play. Donald beats that out if Miggy doesn't cut it off
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2b was too deep to get there in time...if he sprints in, all his momentum going forward, he's got a barehand play and throw on the run...Cabrera taking that ball is actually a quicker play. Donald beats that out if Miggy doesn't cut it off -
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If the call wasn't reversed in the '85 WS then why is a call in a meaningless regular season game going to be reversed?"You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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Oooof.
That was one bad call.
Even worse timing. But it happens and it's been happening a loooong time. To me the umps.....bad calls and all are part the game.
Galarraga should be perfect game #3...and he did indeed act like a true professional. Kudos to him for his reaction to the whole mess....I'm glad someone pointed that out.
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I think this is a perfect opportunity for Selig to overturn the call. This isn't a case where something else could have happened in the game to alter the outcome, this was the final out, so by reversing the call and ending the game all would be settled. This isn't one of those situations where the other team could have done something differently after the play to mount a rally, it was over. So hopefully Selig does the right thing.
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I feel like this is something that will be overlooked, but I think it's important.
It would be easy for Galarraga to have bitched about the call. It'd have been easy for Joyce to try to defend his call. But they didn't. Galarraga was straight class last night after all this. He said all the right things, he acted the right way, and in an era where our athletes rarely act the right way it was damn refreshing. And I also love the way Joyce has handled this. He hasn't been stubborn like a lot of people in his situation might be, he's manned up, he's said he got it wrong, and he obviously just genuinely feels terrible about it. I loved the quote he had last night that went "This is a history call... and I kicked the **** out of it". It was just so honest. I'm not sure all umpires or referees would've manned up as much as he has in this situation.
This has just been a refreshingly great example of the right way to handle things like this. This could've easily gotten very ugly. Frankly, a lot of us probably wouldn't blame Galarraga if he wanted to just tear into Joyce. But everyone's handled this with class, and I really respect that.
It's easy to get mad at Joyce and upon hearing the news (I didn't see the replay until hours later), I was upset with the decision. But, after reading Joyce's comments regarding the entire affair, I can't stay upset at the guy.
Do I think baseball needs to look into a bit more replay? Yea, I do. But, I don't think Joyce being a "bad" umpire is the reason why. I just think that it shows that humans make mistakes and in a game where billions of dollars are thrown around, the league must let the fans know that they are doing everything possible to get it right all the time."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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At the very least, Joyce took it like a man, admitted he screwed up, and apologized to Gallarraga(sp) over and over. He didn't try to spin it, didn't try to stand by his decision, etc.
He came right out and said it: "I ______-up that call and I'm sorry. I cost that young man a perfect game, because of one ______-up call on my part."
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I believe that was the second baseman ball...Mig should've let the second baseman get it, would've been an easier play..BUT I do feel bad for the pitcher and Jim.Washington Redskins
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Didn't say the call was meaningless but the game was. It didn't cost the Tigers the game."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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I feel like this is something that will be overlooked, but I think it's important.
It would be easy for Galarraga to have bitched about the call. It'd have been easy for Joyce to try to defend his call. But they didn't. Galarraga was straight class last night after all this. He said all the right things, he acted the right way, and in an era where our athletes rarely act the right way it was damn refreshing. And I also love the way Joyce has handled this. He hasn't been stubborn like a lot of people in his situation might be, he's manned up, he's said he got it wrong, and he obviously just genuinely feels terrible about it. I loved the quote he had last night that went "This is a history call... and I kicked the **** out of it". It was just so honest. I'm not sure all umpires or referees would've manned up as much as he has in this situation.
This has just been a refreshingly great example of the right way to handle things like this. This could've easily gotten very ugly. Frankly, a lot of us probably wouldn't blame Galarraga if he wanted to just tear into Joyce. But everyone's handled this with class, and I really respect that.
As for Galarraga, I can't say enough. To have one of the most amazing career achievements taken from you and respond with such class even while the moment is still fresh speaks volumes to his character. Really, nearly everyone involved (including Tigers coaches, etc) have handled this whole mess with a lot of grace. In a way (for me at least), it makes his achievement more memorable. He was perfect on and off the field that night.
On a side note, I can't recall a time where umpires as a whole were making as many headlines as they are right now. Maybe West, as president of the umpires group, paid Joyce off to take pressure of of him and Hernandez...lol. Jokes aside, it's just odd how much these guys have been in the news this year.Comment
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I don't see why he didn't call it out anyways, I don't believe there'd be any uproar if he was 1/2 step safe and called out. As someone earlier said you'd have thought he'd have been aware of the situation and erred on the side of the perfecto?
I've seen plenty of people called out on much closer plays than that, like the A's 1st out against the BoSox last night.Comment
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Selig has said he is reviewing the situation this morning and will consider reversing the call...will be very interesting if he does."People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers HornsbyComment
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He isn't absolved of blame at all. He is a major league umpire, there is no excuse for him to miss that call, plain and simple.
Saying he doesn't deserve any blame is ridiculous. So if I go into work and make a huge mistake tomorrow I deserve no blame then right?
I agree this proves major league baseball needs replay for plays like this and I know he feels terrible, but it doesn't change the fact that he screwed up horribly.Comment
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