NL MVP Race

[Dog]

Re: NL MVP Race

I wasn't being serious.. Ryan Howard isn't even the best player on the Phillies. Shane Victorino deserves some consideration for MVP though

[bigdipper88]

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If the Pirates get hot or end with a respectable record, then Cutch definitely deserves consideration & there's no denying that. He'll probably end up in the top 10 in voting at least.

[goh]

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Kemp is easily the most valuable player to his team. Imagine the Dodgers without him.

They'd still be in last place in the division. Which is why I wouldn't give it to him but they gave it to A-Rod on a last place Texas team.

Braun or Fielder for me.

[Dog]

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They'd still be in last place in the division. Which is why I wouldn't give it to him but they gave it to A-Rod on a last place Texas team.

Braun or Fielder for me.

That's really backwards logic for a true MVP award

[kayfngee]

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I think you have to pick between the two Brewers right now. I'm more inclined to go with Braun because I think he is better and more valuable to that team than Fielder. Prince Fielder isn't even the best first basemen in his division.

[KSUowls]

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Pujols has been better over his career, but Prince is the better 1B this year. Better BA, OBP, SLG, and more RBIs. The only thing Pujols has on Prince this year is HR.

[The Big Squeezy]

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If the D-Backs win their division then I say give it to Upton (provided he keeps up this level of play)

If not I say give it to Fielder or Braun.

[goh]

Re: NL MVP Race

That's really backwards logic for a true MVP award

Hardly. It's MVP not best player. If a team is in last place with someone they'd be in last place without him,just might get a higher draft pick with him which actually means they're almost on the negative side of value. If it was best player then no it wouldn't matter how well the team did. Unless we're defining valuable in the literal sense that they sell merchandise/extra tickets/bring in fans.

[DrJones]

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Kemp and Bautista can't be MVP because their teams would miss the playoffs regardless of their outstanding play. Granderson and Gonzalez/Ellsbury can't be MVP because their teams would make the playoffs regardless of their outstanding play.

Perhaps the MVP should be renamed the Best Player on a Mediocre Team that Barely Made the Postseason Award. That would clear things up.

[Dog]

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Hardly. It's MVP not best player. If a team is in last place with someone they'd be in last place without him,just might get a higher draft pick with him which actually means they're almost on the negative side of value. If it was best player then no it wouldn't matter how well the team did. Unless we're defining valuable in the literal sense that they sell merchandise/extra tickets/bring in fans.

So wouldn't you agree that a really good player on a bad team is more valuable to his team than a really good player on a good team?

[lonewolf371]

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They're equally valuable to both teams.

[Dog]

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They're equally valuable to both teams.

You could think that if you want

[SidVish]

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I have to go with Prince Fielder.

[Primetime232]

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Between Braun and Fielder at this point. Gonna have to give it to Braun right now. He has a very good chance of winning the batting title and is 5 HR away from being a 30/30 guy. Might end up a 30/40 guy when it's all said and done the way he's been stealing bases lately. We'll see how they perform down the stretch though. Can't count out Upton at this point either.

[kayfngee]

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Pujols has been better over his career, but Prince is the better 1B this year. Better BA, OBP, SLG, and more RBIs. The only thing Pujols has on Prince this year is HR.

I wasn't talking about Albert Pujols. Votto is better. Switch teams and Votto would have ridiculous numbers.