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  • Reaman
    MVP
    • Jun 2009
    • 2917

    #736
    Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

    I have this feeling that Yu is going to be a bust.

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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #737
      Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

      Originally posted by Reaman
      I have this feeling that Yu is going to be a bust.
      He does have a slight frame from what I remember but so did Pedro and unlike most of the Japanese players that have come to North America he's still young so the adjustment process won't be TOO bad. I think it all depends on where he goes to and the structure in place in terms of making him comfortable/actual coaching.
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      • Melanconfan
        Rookie
        • May 2008
        • 242

        #738
        Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

        Darvish is 6'5" 220 lb so he's not slight at all.

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        • Reaman
          MVP
          • Jun 2009
          • 2917

          #739
          Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

          Originally posted by Melanconfan
          Darvish is 6'5" 220 lb so he's not slight at all.
          Look at some video of him; He'd be gone with the wind if it blew.

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          • Perfect Zero
            1B, OF
            • Jun 2005
            • 4012

            #740
            Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

            Originally posted by Reaman
            Look at some video of him; He'd be gone with the wind if it blew.
            So that's why he would be a bust? Maybe if he played at Candlestick, but I think you're going to have to go further in depth for me to believe you otherwise.
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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #741
              I think he's a bust because MLB filler have dominated in Japan.

              Japan has some good players but they do not compare. The league has thrown over only one legitimate star in Ichiro Suzuki and a quality bat in Hideki Matsui.

              The pitchers have a good start (Nomo and Dice-K) and then flatline. Kaz Matsui was a really good role player and nothing more.

              For the money Yu will earn, he needs to be a bonafide ace. You can say that's asking for too much but I disagree. You don't give someone what can amount to about $15 MM per year to just be okay.


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              • Perfect Zero
                1B, OF
                • Jun 2005
                • 4012

                #742
                Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                I value what people like Jon Danials and Company say, and from what they've witnessed and scouted, it sounds like Yu is the real deal when it comes to aces. Japan may be like advanced AAA, but Darvish has the skills to put movement on the ball and to mix his pitches effectively. I feel that with help from people like Ryan and the Maddux brothers, he could become a potent weapon here in Texas.
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                • The Big Squeezy
                  Pro
                  • May 2011
                  • 796

                  #743
                  Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                  I see Darvish turning out to be a slightly better Dice-K when all is said and done.
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                  • Reaman
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 2917

                    #744
                    Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                    Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                    So that's why he would be a bust? Maybe if he played at Candlestick, but I think you're going to have to go further in depth for me to believe you otherwise.
                    That was I replying to him having a slight frame.

                    CMH has made the argument on why Yu is bust material.

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                    • sydrogerdavid
                      MVP
                      • May 2009
                      • 3109

                      #745
                      Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                      It would be nice if Japan could supply their 3rd superstar to the MLB, but I don't see that happening. Baseball was going on the same tirade about Dice K coming over, look how that has turned out. There are much better players to look at south of the US instead of west.

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                      • Beantown
                        #DoYourJob
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 31523

                        #746
                        ****in a this thread just reminds me how excited u was that Dice-K was coming to the Sox. ****in Dice-K.

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                        • Perfect Zero
                          1B, OF
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 4012

                          #747
                          Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                          So you're all going off of a few players, specifically Dice-K? Hmm... kind of a small sample size, don't you think?

                          Listen, I know there are a bunch of weak knees, but the scouts that have been watching him all year from Texas have a high opinion on him. These are the same scouts that are rebuilding the team from the ground up. To label him a bust at this time is nothing less than short sightedness.
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                          • The Big Squeezy
                            Pro
                            • May 2011
                            • 796

                            #748
                            Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                            Yu Darvish will be the next Pedro Martinez. Is that better?
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                            Originally posted by snepp
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                            Someone needs to set this thread on fire.

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                            • Perfect Zero
                              1B, OF
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 4012

                              #749
                              Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                              Originally posted by The Big Squeezy
                              Yu Darvish will be the next Pedro Martinez. Is that better?
                              Did I say that? All I said was that to call him a bust right now is to be shortsighted.
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                              • The Big Squeezy
                                Pro
                                • May 2011
                                • 796

                                #750
                                Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                                Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                                Did I say that? All I said was that to call him a bust right now is to be shortsighted.
                                That was a bit over the top on my part. My bad. I just can't buy into Japanese imports (especially pitchers) becoming superstars in the MLB because it's never worked out in the past.
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                                Originally posted by snepp
                                Ken Dilger, weapon.
                                Someone needs to set this thread on fire.

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