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  • Kobalt
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    • May 2010
    • 9674

    #121
    Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

    Royals got Jonathan Sanchez for Melky? Love the trade for the Royals.

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    • Chizzypoof
      MVP
      • Dec 2004
      • 1651

      #122
      Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

      Originally posted by Kobalt
      Royals got Jonathan Sanchez for Melky? Love the trade for the Royals.
      Not bad for the Giants either.

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      • Chaos81
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2004
        • 17150

        #123
        Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

        Originally posted by jt45
        How far has the value of Jonathan Sanchez gone down? Straight up for Melky Cabrera? Ouch.
        He'll be 29 next week, and he's coming off a year where he missed significant time with injuries. Add those together and you get a guy who isn't worth nearly as much as he used to be.

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        • SPTO
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          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #124
          Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

          This is a few days old and it's idle speculation out of the air but here's a name for a 1B for the Jays.....trading for Justin Smoak.

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          • rdnk
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            • Feb 2009
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            #125
            Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

            Wow that's a great move for the Royals. No wonder they didn't deal him at the deadline.

            My guess is that San Fran didn't think they would be able to pay him next year or were clearing up money for an upcoming move. They already won a WS with him too.
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            • NYYanks26
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              • Mar 2008
              • 490

              #126
              Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

              SF didn't want to pay him because they've seen enough to know he isn't worth it..Could be my ex-Yankee biased for Melky here, but I think SF got the better end of the deal. Sanchez is an average pitcher who had 1 good year out of 4, making 25+ starts a year in the NL West. Plus he's a walking machine. But he's a lefty & everyone remembers the no hitter + his performance in the playoffs last year. I see the appeal and there is the potential but if I were a GM, I wouldn't touch a guy with this many walks + a career 4 ERA in the NL West. I really think he'll have a miserable season in the AL facing the DH and far better lineups then he's ever see before on a regular basis.

              Bumgarner is gonna be much better and made JS replaceable anyway.
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              • Sportsforever
                NL MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 20368

                #127
                Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                I just in shock with this trade...I didn't know the Royals could trade with a team besides Atlanta.
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                • Chizzypoof
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 1651

                  #128
                  Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                  Originally posted by NYYanks26
                  SF didn't want to pay him because they've seen enough to know he isn't worth it..Could be my ex-Yankee biased for Melky here, but I think SF got the better end of the deal. Sanchez is an average pitcher who had 1 good year out of 4, making 25+ starts a year in the NL West. Plus he's a walking machine. But he's a lefty & everyone remembers the no hitter + his performance in the playoffs last year. I see the appeal and there is the potential but if I were a GM, I wouldn't touch a guy with this many walks + a career 4 ERA in the NL West. I really think he'll have a miserable season in the AL facing the DH and far better lineups then he's ever see before on a regular basis.

                  Bumgarner is gonna be much better and made JS replaceable anyway.
                  Spot on but Vogelsong made him trade worthy. Without Vogelsong's performance last year we are hoping Sanchez gets back to form.
                  Last edited by Chizzypoof; 11-07-2011, 03:30 PM.

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                  • Chaos81
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 17150

                    #129
                    Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                    Originally posted by NYYanks26
                    Sanchez is an average pitcher who had 1 good year out of 4
                    What do you consider Melky?


                    Originally posted by Sportsforever
                    I just in shock with this trade...I didn't know the Royals could trade with a team besides Atlanta.
                    That was my second thought. Right after, "Yes, DM traded Melky!"

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                    • tvman
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1392

                      #130
                      Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                      Originally posted by Chizzypoof
                      Spot on but Vogelsong made him trade worthy. Without Vogelsong's performance last year we are hoping Sanchez gets back to form.

                      My thoughts exactly!

                      Sanchez has or should we say had great potential but his mental makeup will never let him achieve it.

                      From my perspective it was basically a trade of second rate players.

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                      • CabreraMVP
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 1437

                        #131
                        Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                        Melky Cabrera had an amazing season in 2011 (44 doubles, 18 homeruns, .809 OPS) But I dont think he'll come close to that, especially in San Francisco.
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                        • AirCanada15
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 26

                          #132
                          Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                          Originally posted by jt45
                          How far has the value of Jonathan Sanchez gone down? Straight up for Melky Cabrera? Ouch.
                          Bad trade for both sides in my perspective but especially for KC.

                          Sanchez can probably garner more than Melky but even so, he benefited from being in the NL West where hitting is near futile unless you're in AZ.

                          I don't understand what Dayton thinks he's getting. He will get creamed in the AL, even if it's the central. Too many BBs and too many baserunners...he can't pitch around to get to the 8th / 9th hitters in the AL.
                          Last edited by AirCanada15; 11-07-2011, 06:47 PM.

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                          • ImTellinTim
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                            • Sep 2006
                            • 33028

                            #133
                            Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                            The Twins fired Bill Smith today, and Terry Ryan is back with the interim tag.

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                            • rsox
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 6309

                              #134
                              Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                              Originally posted by SPTO
                              This is a few days old and it's idle speculation out of the air but here's a name for a 1B for the Jays.....trading for Justin Smoak.

                              Things that make you go "Hmmmmmm"

                              Mike Carp's production late last season has probably made Smoak expendable to the Mariners.

                              If he can be had for a reasonable offer Smoak could fit in the Jays lineup and let them slide Lind back into the DH role.

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                              • remix
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 2718

                                #135
                                Re: The Hot Stove League Thread

                                Not a bad move for the Giants, as Sanchez was going to walk next year anyway. With the addition of Cabrera, this at the very least will hopefully pave the way for Gary Brown after 2012.
                                Worth a flyer for an offense that was absolutely dreadful last year. Melky is also age 27 so that breakout year is more hopeful toward the start of something great than the other end. I like it.
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