Braun tests positive for PEDs.

[roadman]

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MLB says Braun failed a drug test. We're only going on what we've heard, which is pretty convincing. I obviously hope it isn't true, because it'll only hurt the game, but I'd be shocked if he could beat this.

I don't disagree, but there are also strong sources from his camp(not just Reggie Miller) that are saying this will be overturned.

He also tested negative on another test.

That's why I'm saying "Let's stay tuned" instead of rushing to judgement.

There are other players that have tested positive and it has been over-turned, but we've never heard about those players before because those stories never leaked.

Shocked yes, possible to over-turn, yes. It's been done before.

[decga]

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He is a man just like anyone else we make mistakes just owe up to them b4 they catch up with you. Its ironic back in 2009, Braun spoke out about A-Rod negatively I might add. And Braun is now the one question.

I am still a baseball fan. He will be just fine. He has his multi year contract and he is a good talent.

[themlbgeek]

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Damn. This is a big surprise. Even if it's a mistake. The damage has
already been done.


Do you really care where I sent this from?

I agree completely. As decga said, Braun spoke on the issue of A-Rod and his run-in with PED's. Braun took the joking route when asked if he was ever tempted to take them saying he would hit too many HR's. I think what makes this particularly difficult to swallow is the fact that he is incredibly likable, affable, and easy to support as a fan. Put his name in the company of Barry Bonds, Manny Ramirez, and A-Rod and its hard to fathom. As a MLB fanatic I was really taken back by this story, especially in the wake of his MVP success.

[roadman]

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I'm just hoping for the best and expecting the worst.

I think if Braun is really innocent and clean, once this is all over with(the arbitration and the ruling) he tells ESPN he will submit to a monthly urine test at a lab they choose for a whole year.

Otherwise, even if he's clean and cleared, opposing teams fans will still lump him into the Manny, Bonds, Sosa, McGwire crowd.

[Spanky]

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Cheaters never prosper.

Except for John Calipari, Pete Carroll, Lane Kiffin and Tim Floyd.

[Bellsprout]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

*Bones face* I don't know what this means.

To clarify on Braun: What he did triggered violation of #MLB steroid-testing policy. Source says substance was prohibited, but not PED.

[roadman]

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*Bones face* I don't know what this means.

My take is that it's a substance that is banned by MLB, Braun didn't know it was banned and it's not a PED.

If that is the case, that might stop all the cheater talk.

[SPTO]

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My take is that it's a substance that is banned by MLB, Braun didn't know it was banned and it's not a PED.

If that is the case, that might stop all the cheater talk.

Yeah that's what I was thinking before reading that tweet there because Braun doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who'd take PEDs.

[Bellsprout]

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My take is that it's a substance that is banned by MLB, Braun didn't know it was banned and it's not a PED.

If that is the case, that might stop all the cheater talk.

I'm not familiar with the rules, but what exactly triggers a positive PED test that isn't a PED?

[Bellsprout]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

Tom Haudricourt again:

Source close to Ryan Braun : "There has never been a result like this in the history of the (MLB drug testing program." This is fascinating.

He's right. I'm not so much sad or outraged anymore, I'm interested. This is fascinating. I want to see where this goes.

[The Big Squeezy]

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For the record, I hope Braun is found innocent. He seems like a cool dude and it'd be a shame for him to be lumped into the roidhead group if he didn't actually juice.

[roadman]

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I'm not familiar with the rules, but what exactly triggers a positive PED test that isn't a PED?

I'm not familiar with the rules either, but heck, even blood pressure medicine is a prohibitive substance in the NFL and MLB.

http://www.nsf.org/business/athletic...AthleticBanSub

Stimulants
Narcotics
Steroids
Diuretics
Beta-2-Agonists
Beta Blockers
Masking Agents
Other Substances

[roadman]

Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

Maybe a 25 game ban?

http://www****online.com/blogs/sports/brewers.html

A very good source on the Ryan Braun side of the drug testing controversy assures me that Braun did not test positive for a performance-enhancing drug, as reported by ESPN's "Outside the Lines."

ESPN reported that Braun tested positive for a PED that gave him an abnormally high testosterone level, which proved to be synthetic and therefore not produced by the body.

But my source -- and again, this is from Braun's end and not MLB -- familiar with the test's findings says the "prohibited substance" was not a performance-enhancing drug or steroid of any kind. And the source says there has "never" been a result like this in the history of the MLB testing program.

The source said MLB "knows that Ryan is telling the truth" and firmly believes the postive test will be overturned. Pretty amazing stuff, huh?

The source said more detail couldn't be provided at this time because of the ongoing legal process. But suffice it to say that this is getting more interesting by the minute.

If the prohibited substance Braun tested positive for was a stimulant instead of a steroid, he wouldn't be facing a 50-game suspension. The first offense for stimulants results in a 25-game suspension.

If this source is correct, BSPN will need to eat crow big time. They accused Braun for testing positive for a PED and MLB, according to this source, said MLB knows Braun is telling the truth.

Just shows you how much people start jumping on the bandwagon of news reported by BSPN instead of waiting patiently for everything to come out. Quick to accuse.

Still need to wait how this will wash in the end.

[CabreraMVP]

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My take is that it's a substance that is banned by MLB, Braun didn't know it was banned and it's not a PED.

If that is the case, that might stop all the cheater talk.

this is what I figured happened all along. But people can be close minded, forever he will be considered as a cheater, even if it was just a mistake. Even though he was a great player before he took this substance. This substance didn't make him have a great year, he's always been a great player.

[LingeringRegime]

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For the sake of the game, I hope he is clean. I was just starting to get excited about the game again after that Postseason we just had.